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	<title>Comments on: Macy&#8217;s: Leave the Car at Home</title>
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		<title>By: ViSalus</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-58691</link>
		<dc:creator>ViSalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As great an achievement as that would be, it would not provide an adequate separated path network for the vast majority commuting from home to school. Apparently the building used to have bike racks in the basement, but not any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As great an achievement as that would be, it would not provide an adequate separated path network for the vast majority commuting from home to school. Apparently the building used to have bike racks in the basement, but not any more.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwin</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-49045</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ordinary cyclist: maybe you should re-read my entry, where I clearly said there were options between Lycra and business suits.

By the way, I have a NO-speed bike that definitely isn&#039;t for racing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ordinary cyclist: maybe you should re-read my entry, where I clearly said there were options between Lycra and business suits.</p>
<p>By the way, I have a NO-speed bike that definitely isn&#8217;t for racing.</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-48997</link>
		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TT,

I hear ya.  A large segment of NY commercial real estate (including the building I work in) is managed by SL Green, which as far as I can tell is virulently opposed to making space for their tenants&#039; employees&#039; indoor bike parking.  Maybe you&#039;ll have better luck convincing your employer given its &quot;green&quot; stance.

But even without indoor parking, you can get by.  You need to buy and carry 30 lbs of security equipment at a cost of approximately $100, and take the time to remove and replace your accessories and to lock up properly.  When rain is forecast, lock up under a scaffold, making sure to lock up to a weight-bearing pillar, not a cross-brace that can esily be removed.  

It&#039;s feasible and its worth it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TT,</p>
<p>I hear ya.  A large segment of NY commercial real estate (including the building I work in) is managed by SL Green, which as far as I can tell is virulently opposed to making space for their tenants&#8217; employees&#8217; indoor bike parking.  Maybe you&#8217;ll have better luck convincing your employer given its &#8220;green&#8221; stance.</p>
<p>But even without indoor parking, you can get by.  You need to buy and carry 30 lbs of security equipment at a cost of approximately $100, and take the time to remove and replace your accessories and to lock up properly.  When rain is forecast, lock up under a scaffold, making sure to lock up to a weight-bearing pillar, not a cross-brace that can esily be removed.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s feasible and its worth it!</p>
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		<title>By: TT</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-48995</link>
		<dc:creator>TT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is ridiculous. I work in the Macy&#039;s corporate offices at 11 Penn Plaza and would love to ride my bike to work if there was somewhere safe to keep it, but there&#039;s not. Apparently the building used to have bike racks in the basement, but not any more. It&#039;s certainly easier for corporation to tell people to be green than to provide them with the necessary tools to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is ridiculous. I work in the Macy&#8217;s corporate offices at 11 Penn Plaza and would love to ride my bike to work if there was somewhere safe to keep it, but there&#8217;s not. Apparently the building used to have bike racks in the basement, but not any more. It&#8217;s certainly easier for corporation to tell people to be green than to provide them with the necessary tools to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-48994</link>
		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I have an early morning meeting downtown, I&#039;ll wear dress shoes and the slacks from my suit, a T-shirt or polo on top, and carry an  undershirt, dress shirt, tie and jacket on the rear rack.  I may look silly, but I don&#039;t really care.  I can make the 6 mile trip in less than a half hour (i.e., faster than subway, cab or black car), get some exercise, and change at my destination and be ready for my meeting. 

Then again, when my son has no school and I&#039;m just traveling a few miles to work, I often will cycle in my suit and tie, weather permitting.

The point is to make cycling as convenient and accessible as possible.  The notion that people are undermining the cause of cycling unless they bicycle slowly and dress to impress may carry the day in some European cities.  In New York City, we place a higher value on convenience, speed and comfort as a general matter and the idea that NYC bicyclists have to jettison these values in order to bicycle &quot;properly&quot; would only turn people off and impede modal shift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I have an early morning meeting downtown, I&#8217;ll wear dress shoes and the slacks from my suit, a T-shirt or polo on top, and carry an  undershirt, dress shirt, tie and jacket on the rear rack.  I may look silly, but I don&#8217;t really care.  I can make the 6 mile trip in less than a half hour (i.e., faster than subway, cab or black car), get some exercise, and change at my destination and be ready for my meeting. </p>
<p>Then again, when my son has no school and I&#8217;m just traveling a few miles to work, I often will cycle in my suit and tie, weather permitting.</p>
<p>The point is to make cycling as convenient and accessible as possible.  The notion that people are undermining the cause of cycling unless they bicycle slowly and dress to impress may carry the day in some European cities.  In New York City, we place a higher value on convenience, speed and comfort as a general matter and the idea that NYC bicyclists have to jettison these values in order to bicycle &#8220;properly&#8221; would only turn people off and impede modal shift.</p>
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		<title>By: bureaucrat</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-48980</link>
		<dc:creator>bureaucrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL well said</description>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-48975</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ordinary Cyclist,

Channeling Alex Marshall?

Why does it have to be either/or?

I take advantage of my bike commute to get a workout. For my weight and my health generally, I need regular vigorous exercise. And, vigorous biking is really much better in dedicated bike gear.

I don&#039;t mean to suggest that we shouldn&#039;t encourage biking in suits, top hats, overcoats, flowing skirts, whatever. But, is it really necessary to forgo outfits that just happen to be really well-suited to biking, at least one form of biking? My wearing lycra is not preventing people from wearing worsted wool.

Biking: wear what you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ordinary Cyclist,</p>
<p>Channeling Alex Marshall?</p>
<p>Why does it have to be either/or?</p>
<p>I take advantage of my bike commute to get a workout. For my weight and my health generally, I need regular vigorous exercise. And, vigorous biking is really much better in dedicated bike gear.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to suggest that we shouldn&#8217;t encourage biking in suits, top hats, overcoats, flowing skirts, whatever. But, is it really necessary to forgo outfits that just happen to be really well-suited to biking, at least one form of biking? My wearing lycra is not preventing people from wearing worsted wool.</p>
<p>Biking: wear what you want.</p>
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		<title>By: ordinary cyclist</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-48974</link>
		<dc:creator>ordinary cyclist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gwin and bureaucrat: for years I thought biking to work was a race - I had a fast bike and all the gear, and changed at work if I needed too.  But I recently got a european-style 3-speed, chainguard and all, and realized that in most weather there&#039;s no reason not to bike in a suit and high heels.  (Biking in heels is far easier than walking.)

We&#039;d do well to overcome the myth that biking requires special clothes.  That myth is a real barrier to many people who would otherwise try it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gwin and bureaucrat: for years I thought biking to work was a race &#8211; I had a fast bike and all the gear, and changed at work if I needed too.  But I recently got a european-style 3-speed, chainguard and all, and realized that in most weather there&#8217;s no reason not to bike in a suit and high heels.  (Biking in heels is far easier than walking.)</p>
<p>We&#8217;d do well to overcome the myth that biking requires special clothes.  That myth is a real barrier to many people who would otherwise try it.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie D.</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-48972</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad people are taking up my suggestion to contact Macy&#039;s!  Just as we are sometimes critical of companies who send negative messages about bicycling, we should make sure to commend companies who say good things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad people are taking up my suggestion to contact Macy&#8217;s!  Just as we are sometimes critical of companies who send negative messages about bicycling, we should make sure to commend companies who say good things.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-48964</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/#comment-48922&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Great idea, Charlie D&lt;/a&gt;!

Here&#039;s what &lt;a href=&quot;http://newtonstreets.blogspot.com/2008/04/macys-likes-bikes.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I wrote&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/#comment-48922" rel="nofollow">Great idea, Charlie D</a>!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what <a href="http://newtonstreets.blogspot.com/2008/04/macys-likes-bikes.html" rel="nofollow">I wrote</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-48958</link>
		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;crat, gear definitely helps.  Tag-a-longs, trailers, rear seats and Eurocargo bikes (if you&#039;ve got the cash) are all good options.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/bicyclesonly/sets/72157604119157025/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;a&gt; are some photos showing how parents get their kids to school by bike.  

As for separated lanes, I&#039;d love to see more of them but they are a heavy lift for the DoT.  I think the best we can hope for is a continuous Greenway ringing Manhattan and the waterfront portions of the other boroughs, perhaps with an inland aterial network of separated paths that connect the greenways with the major parks.  As great an achievement as that would be, it would not provide an adequate separated path network for the vast majority commuting from home to school.  So we are probably stuck with on-street lanes for bicycling to school.

People just need to realize that it is not as dangerous for kids to be on bikes in traffic as it might seem, at least not when their parents are with them.  I can&#039;t recall hearing of a fatality or serious injury to child bicycling with parent. Along with the gear, there are many techniques parents can use to protect kids on bikes from traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;crat, gear definitely helps.  Tag-a-longs, trailers, rear seats and Eurocargo bikes (if you&#8217;ve got the cash) are all good options.  <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bicyclesonly/sets/72157604119157025/" rel="nofollow">Here</a><a> are some photos showing how parents get their kids to school by bike.  </a></p>
<p>As for separated lanes, I&#8217;d love to see more of them but they are a heavy lift for the DoT.  I think the best we can hope for is a continuous Greenway ringing Manhattan and the waterfront portions of the other boroughs, perhaps with an inland aterial network of separated paths that connect the greenways with the major parks.  As great an achievement as that would be, it would not provide an adequate separated path network for the vast majority commuting from home to school.  So we are probably stuck with on-street lanes for bicycling to school.</p>
<p>People just need to realize that it is not as dangerous for kids to be on bikes in traffic as it might seem, at least not when their parents are with them.  I can&#8217;t recall hearing of a fatality or serious injury to child bicycling with parent. Along with the gear, there are many techniques parents can use to protect kids on bikes from traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: bureaucrat</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-48954</link>
		<dc:creator>bureaucrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BicyclesOnly - agreed.  And the best (only?) way to get them onto bikes with their kids is probably thru separated facilities and utility bikes/trikes like they use in Copenhagen etc.  Something practical that you don&#039;t have to be an especially stout mom or dad to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BicyclesOnly &#8211; agreed.  And the best (only?) way to get them onto bikes with their kids is probably thru separated facilities and utility bikes/trikes like they use in Copenhagen etc.  Something practical that you don&#8217;t have to be an especially stout mom or dad to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Komanoff</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-48949</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Komanoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks BicyclesOnly. The direct carbon benefits of CFL&#039;s and cycling depend on lots of factors, as you know. I agree that if we could only do one, it should be cycling, for the reasons we both gave. But there&#039;s no need to choose, as you&#039;ve proven (as did those hundreds of hands at the conference I described).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks BicyclesOnly. The direct carbon benefits of CFL&#8217;s and cycling depend on lots of factors, as you know. I agree that if we could only do one, it should be cycling, for the reasons we both gave. But there&#8217;s no need to choose, as you&#8217;ve proven (as did those hundreds of hands at the conference I described).</p>
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		<title>By: Gwin</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-48946</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bureaucrat: all true, but let&#039;s not forget the risks of getting grease/dirt from the bike itself onto your clothes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bureaucrat: all true, but let&#8217;s not forget the risks of getting grease/dirt from the bike itself onto your clothes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
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		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie, I you&#039;re right that I needn&#039;t denigrate light bulb changing.  I certainly would not have thought that changing to CF lighting (which we have done) could do more to reduce my carbon footprint than foregoing motor vehicle travel. But then again I&#039;m no energy expert.  

PayingItNow, you make some good points, but you may be looking at only one slice of the &quot;environment.&quot;  Your bike is not only polluting less than a car, it&#039;s creating less congestion on the roadway, less noise, and less threat of injury by collision.  And the absence of your butt on the train makes it that much easier for those still using it.  And while I use the train when I don&#039;t bike, I usually have the option of ordering a black car home most nights, as do many other people.  I don&#039;t order those black cars because I&#039;ve got my bike.  

I also know of lots of people who do commute entirely within Manhattan by private auto, everyday.  This morning, my 10 year-old son got to wave hello to two different friends on his way to school, each of whom were being driven by their parent or in a black car (we were bicycling).  These people aren&#039;t extraordinarily rich either.  The fact is for a lot of the &quot;new New Yorkers&quot; who as little as ten years ago would would have relocated to the suburbs to raise their kids, a car is seen as an absolute necessity and is used on a daily basis for short trips of two miles or less. I can&#039;t say what percentage of the overall traffic burden those people account for, but I think its significant.  

I think getting these people out of their cars and onto bikes would transform Manhattan.  It might not immediately subtract that much out of the overall traffic burden, but it might well have made a difference in the outcome of the CP fight and in a host of other &quot;liveable streets&quot; issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie, I you&#8217;re right that I needn&#8217;t denigrate light bulb changing.  I certainly would not have thought that changing to CF lighting (which we have done) could do more to reduce my carbon footprint than foregoing motor vehicle travel. But then again I&#8217;m no energy expert.  </p>
<p>PayingItNow, you make some good points, but you may be looking at only one slice of the &#8220;environment.&#8221;  Your bike is not only polluting less than a car, it&#8217;s creating less congestion on the roadway, less noise, and less threat of injury by collision.  And the absence of your butt on the train makes it that much easier for those still using it.  And while I use the train when I don&#8217;t bike, I usually have the option of ordering a black car home most nights, as do many other people.  I don&#8217;t order those black cars because I&#8217;ve got my bike.  </p>
<p>I also know of lots of people who do commute entirely within Manhattan by private auto, everyday.  This morning, my 10 year-old son got to wave hello to two different friends on his way to school, each of whom were being driven by their parent or in a black car (we were bicycling).  These people aren&#8217;t extraordinarily rich either.  The fact is for a lot of the &#8220;new New Yorkers&#8221; who as little as ten years ago would would have relocated to the suburbs to raise their kids, a car is seen as an absolute necessity and is used on a daily basis for short trips of two miles or less. I can&#8217;t say what percentage of the overall traffic burden those people account for, but I think its significant.  </p>
<p>I think getting these people out of their cars and onto bikes would transform Manhattan.  It might not immediately subtract that much out of the overall traffic burden, but it might well have made a difference in the outcome of the CP fight and in a host of other &#8220;liveable streets&#8221; issues.</p>
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		<title>By: ln</title>
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		<dc:creator>ln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the summer I change the whole outfit at work, where i keep a drawful of clothes.

Last summer, on the hottest day of the year, passed a guy on the greenway biking in his boxers only-- clothes on the rack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the summer I change the whole outfit at work, where i keep a drawful of clothes.</p>
<p>Last summer, on the hottest day of the year, passed a guy on the greenway biking in his boxers only&#8211; clothes on the rack.</p>
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		<title>By: rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suits:  I found a dry cleaner just a few blocks from the office, so now my suits and dress shirts live at the office. Beware of this strategy however, I have now lost closet space that my wife will likely never give back.

I have also used a garment bag draped over the rear rack, they arrived just fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suits:  I found a dry cleaner just a few blocks from the office, so now my suits and dress shirts live at the office. Beware of this strategy however, I have now lost closet space that my wife will likely never give back.</p>
<p>I have also used a garment bag draped over the rear rack, they arrived just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: bureaucrat</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-48937</link>
		<dc:creator>bureaucrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guess it depends how far you&#039;re riding, gwin, how naturally inclined you are to sweat, and how strenuously you peddle.  for my 20 min commute, dress clothes are fine.  i just take off my tie and roll up my sleeves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guess it depends how far you&#8217;re riding, gwin, how naturally inclined you are to sweat, and how strenuously you peddle.  for my 20 min commute, dress clothes are fine.  i just take off my tie and roll up my sleeves.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-48935</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, bike racks at their stores should be a given.  But I would take Macy&#039;s a lot more seriously if they didn&#039;t rely  so much on imported merchandise from China.  I&#039;d also take their sense of responsibility more seriously if they didn&#039;t lay off 1,000s while corporate honchos clean up and even have a parachute.  This ad is nothing but a wolf in sheep&#039;s clothing.  

Macy&#039;s isn&#039;t serious about the environment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, bike racks at their stores should be a given.  But I would take Macy&#8217;s a lot more seriously if they didn&#8217;t rely  so much on imported merchandise from China.  I&#8217;d also take their sense of responsibility more seriously if they didn&#8217;t lay off 1,000s while corporate honchos clean up and even have a parachute.  This ad is nothing but a wolf in sheep&#8217;s clothing.  </p>
<p>Macy&#8217;s isn&#8217;t serious about the environment</p>
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		<title>By: PayingItNow</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/macys-leave-the-car-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-48934</link>
		<dc:creator>PayingItNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been a NYC bicycle commuter for many years, and I find this business of accepting green kudos for it kind of silly.  I do it because I like it, because it&#039;s more pleasant than the subway, because there&#039;s a very direct, virtually car-free route between home and work, and because it&#039;s a way to build a good workout into my day.  I am not &quot;one less car.&quot;  I&#039;m one fewer butt on the train.  Granted, there are places where bikers are indeed doing something green, but in NYC?  Please.  The people who drive are overwhelmingly doing so over distances far greater than would be practical for anyone to ride (and my commute is 12 miles each way by bike, so I have a pretty high threshold)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been a NYC bicycle commuter for many years, and I find this business of accepting green kudos for it kind of silly.  I do it because I like it, because it&#8217;s more pleasant than the subway, because there&#8217;s a very direct, virtually car-free route between home and work, and because it&#8217;s a way to build a good workout into my day.  I am not &#8220;one less car.&#8221;  I&#8217;m one fewer butt on the train.  Granted, there are places where bikers are indeed doing something green, but in NYC?  Please.  The people who drive are overwhelmingly doing so over distances far greater than would be practical for anyone to ride (and my commute is 12 miles each way by bike, so I have a pretty high threshold)</p>
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