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	<title>Comments on: Cyclists Zip Down Clogged LA Freeways</title>
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		<title>By: Mihai</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/cyclists-zip-down-clogged-la-freeways/comment-page-1/#comment-49981</link>
		<dc:creator>Mihai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 18:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The verdict is in, I want my own bike highway.  I deserve it.

Driving is no different than smoking, why should I be forced to inhale the crap drivers put out?  The least the system can do is accomodate alternative forms of transportation equally.

And no, riding during rush hour on the freeway is not dangerous.  Riding on any surface street where a numskull on a cellphone could choose to turn right in front of you is dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The verdict is in, I want my own bike highway.  I deserve it.</p>
<p>Driving is no different than smoking, why should I be forced to inhale the crap drivers put out?  The least the system can do is accomodate alternative forms of transportation equally.</p>
<p>And no, riding during rush hour on the freeway is not dangerous.  Riding on any surface street where a numskull on a cellphone could choose to turn right in front of you is dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Irene</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/cyclists-zip-down-clogged-la-freeways/comment-page-1/#comment-49852</link>
		<dc:creator>Irene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 00:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response to comment #6:
You do realize that the main reason why motorcycling is dangerous is because of the ignorance of car drivers and their and their failure to recognize/acknowledge other vehicles on the road? 

As a female rider (bicycles and motorbikes) who also drives, it is imperative to understand that a dominant attitude of automobiles harms others as well as yourself. 

PLUS as a Los Angeles native, it is time that alternative modes of transportation be used. Though bicycles on the 10 and 405 is dangerous, it goes to show that social significance in protest is still alive and well. 

Cheers to the two wheeled world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response to comment #6:<br />
You do realize that the main reason why motorcycling is dangerous is because of the ignorance of car drivers and their and their failure to recognize/acknowledge other vehicles on the road? </p>
<p>As a female rider (bicycles and motorbikes) who also drives, it is imperative to understand that a dominant attitude of automobiles harms others as well as yourself. </p>
<p>PLUS as a Los Angeles native, it is time that alternative modes of transportation be used. Though bicycles on the 10 and 405 is dangerous, it goes to show that social significance in protest is still alive and well. </p>
<p>Cheers to the two wheeled world.</p>
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		<title>By: ddartley</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/cyclists-zip-down-clogged-la-freeways/comment-page-1/#comment-48985</link>
		<dc:creator>ddartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>d-
Not quite.  If you ride a bike through congested NYC traffic, you see the motorcycles (wider than bikes) get stuck a lot more than you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>d-<br />
Not quite.  If you ride a bike through congested NYC traffic, you see the motorcycles (wider than bikes) get stuck a lot more than you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/cyclists-zip-down-clogged-la-freeways/comment-page-1/#comment-48977</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And a great friging soundtrack.  Very LA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And a great friging soundtrack.  Very LA</p>
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		<title>By: black rock refugee</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/cyclists-zip-down-clogged-la-freeways/comment-page-1/#comment-48973</link>
		<dc:creator>black rock refugee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>only place i&#039;ve seen traffic this bad is burning man exodus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>only place i've seen traffic this bad is burning man exodus!</p>
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		<title>By: galvo</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/cyclists-zip-down-clogged-la-freeways/comment-page-1/#comment-48971</link>
		<dc:creator>galvo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>flunky , i ride that thing with two wheels. i  go faster than 20 mph on the flats and  road with no congestion.
These guys on bikes are moving  in and out of stopped or  slow traffic, i doubt they are going more than 20 mph average  in these traffic jams, they are defiantly going faster than the cars, the cars may be averageing 12 mph . 
i jump off the west side greenway when it is too slow due to bicycle congestion and take west street, i can usually stay with traffic  if it is  mildly congested, i  will pass all the cars at 20mph if it jammed up.
what i am trying to get across is that nys has laws banning  possible green transportation that cant go 55 mph on limited access highways, such as the  Holland tunnel at rush hour. A bicycle is going to move faster than the cars, there are people that may  be able to commute to work using the holland tunnel on bikes it it was legal, they would be  passing all the cars due to congestion, yet they are banned from the roadways.
palisade park commission bans small wheel  vespas type vehicles and public transportation buses on the harriman state park roads, only  allows cars, suv&#039;s or bigger motorcycles. This is the crazy car culture thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>flunky , i ride that thing with two wheels. i  go faster than 20 mph on the flats and  road with no congestion.<br />
These guys on bikes are moving  in and out of stopped or  slow traffic, i doubt they are going more than 20 mph average  in these traffic jams, they are defiantly going faster than the cars, the cars may be averageing 12 mph .<br />
i jump off the west side greenway when it is too slow due to bicycle congestion and take west street, i can usually stay with traffic  if it is  mildly congested, i  will pass all the cars at 20mph if it jammed up.<br />
what i am trying to get across is that nys has laws banning  possible green transportation that cant go 55 mph on limited access highways, such as the  Holland tunnel at rush hour. A bicycle is going to move faster than the cars, there are people that may  be able to commute to work using the holland tunnel on bikes it it was legal, they would be  passing all the cars due to congestion, yet they are banned from the roadways.<br />
palisade park commission bans small wheel  vespas type vehicles and public transportation buses on the harriman state park roads, only  allows cars, suv's or bigger motorcycles. This is the crazy car culture thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Flunky Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flunky Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Galvo

FAIL. Bicyclists can easily do well over 20MPH and can keep this up for a long time.

I can easily maintain 25MPH on a flat road, if not faster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Galvo</p>
<p>FAIL. Bicyclists can easily do well over 20MPH and can keep this up for a long time.</p>
<p>I can easily maintain 25MPH on a flat road, if not faster.</p>
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		<title>By: galvo</title>
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		<dc:creator>galvo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this and the Holland tunnel video brings out one of the problems with reducing oil consumption and dependency. The  max speed of the bicyclist are under 20 mph and they are moving much faster than the cars. In NYS small vespa type motor scooters  are illegal on a lot of  limited access highways because they don&#039;t go fast enough.
NYS  has way  too many laws that force people into using larger vehicles than necessary and stop innovations that could replace  car trips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this and the Holland tunnel video brings out one of the problems with reducing oil consumption and dependency. The  max speed of the bicyclist are under 20 mph and they are moving much faster than the cars. In NYS small vespa type motor scooters  are illegal on a lot of  limited access highways because they don't go fast enough.<br />
NYS  has way  too many laws that force people into using larger vehicles than necessary and stop innovations that could replace  car trips.</p>
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		<title>By: d</title>
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		<dc:creator>d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not too impressive.  This is as much an argument for riding a motorcycle as it is for riding a bike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not too impressive.  This is as much an argument for riding a motorcycle as it is for riding a bike.</p>
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		<title>By: ddartley</title>
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		<dc:creator>ddartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrible!  If one of them had gotten hit by a car, imagine the traffic jam it would have caused!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrible!  If one of them had gotten hit by a car, imagine the traffic jam it would have caused!</p>
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		<title>By: Banned Bikes</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/cyclists-zip-down-clogged-la-freeways/comment-page-1/#comment-48950</link>
		<dc:creator>Banned Bikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would definitely call it a stunt, it&#039;s called a RIDE STUNT, AKA BICYCLE STREET THEATRE or in this case, FREEWAY THEATRE.  The message is in the stunt, it&#039;s not about communicating verbally, it&#039;s about sporadic displays of human powered efficiency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would definitely call it a stunt, it's called a RIDE STUNT, AKA BICYCLE STREET THEATRE or in this case, FREEWAY THEATRE.  The message is in the stunt, it's not about communicating verbally, it's about sporadic displays of human powered efficiency.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think we should look at it as a &#039;stunt&#039;.  Focus on how many people in traffic were thinking &#039;if only I could be on that bike right now&#039;. They probably won&#039;t switch any time soon, but they&#039;ve starting thinking about it. Amazing, and it looks fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't think we should look at it as a 'stunt'.  Focus on how many people in traffic were thinking 'if only I could be on that bike right now'. They probably won't switch any time soon, but they've starting thinking about it. Amazing, and it looks fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/23/cyclists-zip-down-clogged-la-freeways/comment-page-1/#comment-48932</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A similar stunt was done recently in New York, when a man biked through the Holland Tunnel during rush hour:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceCOy-RM3DU</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A similar stunt was done recently in New York, when a man biked through the Holland Tunnel during rush hour:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceCOy-RM3DU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceCOy-RM3DU</a></p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
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		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear it&#039;s fun to bike on a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.digave.com/videos/mxhwy-digave_com.mpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mexican Highway&lt;/a&gt; as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear it's fun to bike on a <a href="http://www.digave.com/videos/mxhwy-digave_com.mpg" rel="nofollow">Mexican Highway</a> as well.</p>
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