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	<title>Comments on: A Transit Miracle on 34th Street</title>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-2/#comment-273711</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 23:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murray Hiller, your lives will be much more fulfilled once you learn the difference between genuine neighborhood organizing and territorial pissing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murray Hiller, your lives will be much more fulfilled once you learn the difference between genuine neighborhood organizing and territorial pissing.</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-2/#comment-273471</link>
		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 19:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murray Hiller, 

Your peeps did a piss-poor job of organizing the Union Square neighborhood against DoT, if last night is any indication.  Opponents of the DoT&#039;s Union Square plan bitched endlessly about the bad process and bad-faith motives of DoT, but you convinced your community board, to a one, that you are a bunch of obstructionists with no interest in constructively engaging to help improve the neighborhood.  The fear-mongering, distortions and outright lies of the opponents to the plan literally drove the few remaining Community Board members who had questions about the process into the DoT&#039;s arms, proclaiming &quot;I trust the DoT.&quot;  Made the job of the plan proponents even easier than it would have been.  Way to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murray Hiller, </p>
<p>Your peeps did a piss-poor job of organizing the Union Square neighborhood against DoT, if last night is any indication.  Opponents of the DoT&#8217;s Union Square plan bitched endlessly about the bad process and bad-faith motives of DoT, but you convinced your community board, to a one, that you are a bunch of obstructionists with no interest in constructively engaging to help improve the neighborhood.  The fear-mongering, distortions and outright lies of the opponents to the plan literally drove the few remaining Community Board members who had questions about the process into the DoT&#8217;s arms, proclaiming &#8220;I trust the DoT.&#8221;  Made the job of the plan proponents even easier than it would have been.  Way to go!</p>
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		<title>By: Murray Hiller</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-2/#comment-273431</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray Hiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cap&#039;n Transit, what you call &quot;t.... p....&quot; is for us neighborhood organizing.  And just as neighborhoods like Brooklyn Heights and the Upper West Side organized against Robert Moses, East and West Midtown and the Union Square area are organizing against DOT. Our neighborhoods and streets aren&#039;t just dots and lines on a transit map.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cap&#8217;n Transit, what you call &#8220;t&#8230;. p&#8230;.&#8221; is for us neighborhood organizing.  And just as neighborhoods like Brooklyn Heights and the Upper West Side organized against Robert Moses, East and West Midtown and the Union Square area are organizing against DOT. Our neighborhoods and streets aren&#8217;t just dots and lines on a transit map.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-2/#comment-273081</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 03:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Murray Hiller&quot; is awful quick to dismiss data he/she doesn&#039;t like.

It turns out that Ian may have been exaggerating the data.  Crashstat shows only one fatality - and 166 crashes resulting in injury - between 1995 and 2005.  That&#039;s an average of seventeen injuries a year.  Beautiful and walkable, huh?  Not that corner.

Your rants have nothing to do with standing up for beauty or walkability, or speaking truth to the power of a modern-day Bob Moses.  They&#039;re just plain old territorial pissings dressed up as a good-government crusade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Murray Hiller&#8221; is awful quick to dismiss data he/she doesn&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>It turns out that Ian may have been exaggerating the data.  Crashstat shows only one fatality &#8211; and 166 crashes resulting in injury &#8211; between 1995 and 2005.  That&#8217;s an average of seventeen injuries a year.  Beautiful and walkable, huh?  Not that corner.</p>
<p>Your rants have nothing to do with standing up for beauty or walkability, or speaking truth to the power of a modern-day Bob Moses.  They&#8217;re just plain old territorial pissings dressed up as a good-government crusade.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray Hiller</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-2/#comment-273041</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray Hiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 23:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian Turner:

None of your references support your fatality statistics.

We&#039;re done here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian Turner:</p>
<p>None of your references support your fatality statistics.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re done here.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Mork</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-2/#comment-272661</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 13:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The crashstat link is interesting.

Does anyone know where &quot;Flatbush Ave &amp; Flatbush Ave&quot; is?  (Listed under Brooklyn Ped Crashes)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The crashstat link is interesting.</p>
<p>Does anyone know where &#8220;Flatbush Ave &amp; Flatbush Ave&#8221; is?  (Listed under Brooklyn Ped Crashes)</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 02:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>33rd and Park was the most dangerous intersection citywide, 1995-2005.
http://www.crashstat.org/topten.html

Changing the tunnel has resulted in a 77% reduction in crashes.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/ssi09_projects/ssi09_parkavenuetunnel.pdf

Nobody has been killed since introduction of this project.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/parkavetunnel.pdf

Incidentally, these three links are also the top Google search results for &quot;E 33rd St &amp; Park Ave Southbound&quot;; these are not exactly obscure documents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>33rd and Park was the most dangerous intersection citywide, 1995-2005.<br />
<a href="http://www.crashstat.org/topten.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.crashstat.org/topten.html</a></p>
<p>Changing the tunnel has resulted in a 77% reduction in crashes.<br />
<a href="http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/ssi09_projects/ssi09_parkavenuetunnel.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/ssi09_projects/ssi09_parkavenuetunnel.pdf</a></p>
<p>Nobody has been killed since introduction of this project.<br />
<a href="http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/parkavetunnel.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/parkavetunnel.pdf</a></p>
<p>Incidentally, these three links are also the top Google search results for &#8220;E 33rd St &amp; Park Ave Southbound&#8221;; these are not exactly obscure documents.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray Hiller</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-2/#comment-272501</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray Hiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 01:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Ian Turner. Since you&#039;re not citing your sources about pedestrian fatalities on Park Avenue, we can back to the Transitway.

DOT is putting the cart before the horse by producing a design before executing the research to support it -- contrary to Planning 101.

Murray Hillers are smarter than that.  And we&#039;re not going to let this arbitrary plan get by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Ian Turner. Since you&#8217;re not citing your sources about pedestrian fatalities on Park Avenue, we can back to the Transitway.</p>
<p>DOT is putting the cart before the horse by producing a design before executing the research to support it &#8212; contrary to Planning 101.</p>
<p>Murray Hillers are smarter than that.  And we&#8217;re not going to let this arbitrary plan get by.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray Hiller</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-2/#comment-271181</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray Hiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 14:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian Turner, cite source of your mortality rates, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian Turner, cite source of your mortality rates, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-2/#comment-270931</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 14:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MH, closing the Park Ave tunnel southbound has already saved lives. 33rd St and Park Ave was one of the most dangerous intersections in the city; somebody died there almost annually. If you are &quot;fed up&quot; with the idea that saving lives matter, then I pity your lack of compassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MH, closing the Park Ave tunnel southbound has already saved lives. 33rd St and Park Ave was one of the most dangerous intersections in the city; somebody died there almost annually. If you are &#8220;fed up&#8221; with the idea that saving lives matter, then I pity your lack of compassion.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray Hiller</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-2/#comment-270601</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray Hiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 21:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, Ian Turner, it&#039;s obvious that 34th Street is a through street. And yes, night noise has already increased because of recently-installed designated bus lanes that restrict building service to evenings. (I know, my apartment overlooks 34th Street. And after living here 10 years, I can also say those bus lanes, even without the Transitway, have increased the noise against my building. My windows literally shake, which they never did before!)

As for traffic moving to other streets, that means Murray Hill streets, our neighborhood, one of the most walkable in the city, as mentioned above, just spreading the bad effects of this unconsidered plan. (Uh huh, DOT has said publicly it hasn&#039;t studied the impacts of this plan, and is only now getting around to it.)

DOT&#039;s already ruined Lower Park Avenue -- one of the most beautiful and walkable streets in Manhattan -- by closing the Grand Central approach tunnel to south-bound traffic, congesting the avenue with through-traffic. Murray Hillers are fed up with these Robert Moses-like dictates.  And we&#039;re organizing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, Ian Turner, it&#8217;s obvious that 34th Street is a through street. And yes, night noise has already increased because of recently-installed designated bus lanes that restrict building service to evenings. (I know, my apartment overlooks 34th Street. And after living here 10 years, I can also say those bus lanes, even without the Transitway, have increased the noise against my building. My windows literally shake, which they never did before!)</p>
<p>As for traffic moving to other streets, that means Murray Hill streets, our neighborhood, one of the most walkable in the city, as mentioned above, just spreading the bad effects of this unconsidered plan. (Uh huh, DOT has said publicly it hasn&#8217;t studied the impacts of this plan, and is only now getting around to it.)</p>
<p>DOT&#8217;s already ruined Lower Park Avenue &#8212; one of the most beautiful and walkable streets in Manhattan &#8212; by closing the Grand Central approach tunnel to south-bound traffic, congesting the avenue with through-traffic. Murray Hillers are fed up with these Robert Moses-like dictates.  And we&#8217;re organizing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-2/#comment-270341</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MH, you&#039;re aware that the vast majority of traffic on 34th St is through traffic, not originating or destined to your neighborhood, right? And you are further aware that most of this traffic will disappear or move to other streets? Do you actually have any evidence for your claim that night noise will increase, or is it just conjecture on your part?

I once looked at an apartment on the north side of E 34th St. It was a nice apartment at a good price, but the street noise was constant and obnoxious, so I passed on it. From my perspective, the only place street noise can go in this neigborhood is down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MH, you&#8217;re aware that the vast majority of traffic on 34th St is through traffic, not originating or destined to your neighborhood, right? And you are further aware that most of this traffic will disappear or move to other streets? Do you actually have any evidence for your claim that night noise will increase, or is it just conjecture on your part?</p>
<p>I once looked at an apartment on the north side of E 34th St. It was a nice apartment at a good price, but the street noise was constant and obnoxious, so I passed on it. From my perspective, the only place street noise can go in this neigborhood is down.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray Hiller</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-2/#comment-269981</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray Hiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 22:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s right, Ian Turner, because trash pick-up, oil deliveries and apartment move-in/move-outs will have to happen at night all along the north side of 34th Street.

PLUS the concentration of buses on the north side of the street will increase noise for all apartments overlooking that side of the street, not only as the buses rumble by but as they stop and idle at the new &quot;BRT Stations&quot; located every block.

Murray Hill already has a 98 rating (out of 100) for walkability -- perfect, according to the Brookings Institution AND 13 points HIGHER than the New York City walkability average. We don&#039;t need -- or want -- this aggravation for a couple of widened sidewalks at the Empire State Building.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right, Ian Turner, because trash pick-up, oil deliveries and apartment move-in/move-outs will have to happen at night all along the north side of 34th Street.</p>
<p>PLUS the concentration of buses on the north side of the street will increase noise for all apartments overlooking that side of the street, not only as the buses rumble by but as they stop and idle at the new &#8220;BRT Stations&#8221; located every block.</p>
<p>Murray Hill already has a 98 rating (out of 100) for walkability &#8212; perfect, according to the Brookings Institution AND 13 points HIGHER than the New York City walkability average. We don&#8217;t need &#8212; or want &#8212; this aggravation for a couple of widened sidewalks at the Empire State Building.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-2/#comment-269731</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MH, you can&#039;t be serious in thinking that this project is going to &lt;i&gt;increase&lt;/i&gt; the amount of street noise from 34th St.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MH, you can&#8217;t be serious in thinking that this project is going to <i>increase</i> the amount of street noise from 34th St.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray Hiller</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-2/#comment-269701</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray Hiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Red, the co-op and condo boards up and down 34th Street and adjacent streets are embarking on hiring counsel to stop this thing.

In addition to our other complaints (listed above), blocking our entrances during the day means doubling our service costs at night (that&#039;s right, we have to cover increased staff AND delivery costs), putting undue burden on residents, including many of whom are retired and living on fixed incomes.  And service and deliveries at night means unwelcome street noise for people who have to get to work in the morning!

The Murray Hill Neighborhood Association has formed a special sub-committee to help rally the community.  We&#039;re not going to see our area ruined and our property values evaporate for DOT&#039;s vanity project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Red, the co-op and condo boards up and down 34th Street and adjacent streets are embarking on hiring counsel to stop this thing.</p>
<p>In addition to our other complaints (listed above), blocking our entrances during the day means doubling our service costs at night (that&#8217;s right, we have to cover increased staff AND delivery costs), putting undue burden on residents, including many of whom are retired and living on fixed incomes.  And service and deliveries at night means unwelcome street noise for people who have to get to work in the morning!</p>
<p>The Murray Hill Neighborhood Association has formed a special sub-committee to help rally the community.  We&#8217;re not going to see our area ruined and our property values evaporate for DOT&#8217;s vanity project.</p>
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		<title>By: Red</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-2/#comment-243831</link>
		<dc:creator>Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 21:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Murray Hill resident and I&#039;m a big fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Murray Hill resident and I&#8217;m a big fan.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray Hiller</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-1/#comment-243801</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray Hiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 21:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>East 34th Street is a neighborhood street -- not a &quot;transitway&quot; or &quot;corridor&quot;!

Thousands of people, including elderly and children, live on the blocks from Madison Avenue to the river, and approximately 100 shops (most owned by small-scale entrepreneurs) line them.

The proposed bus lanes (and their concrete median) will block day-to-day and emergency access to apartment lobbies, service entrances, and stores.

And the BRT stations will throw off increased noise and pollution into adjacent apartments (great for cancer rates and blood pressure).

PLUS streets from 30th to 40th will suffer increased traffic -- the locations for public and private schools, houses of worship, and many thousands more apartments.

This is the modern-day equivalent of the Bronx&#039;s &quot;One Mile&quot; where Robert Moses, according to the &quot;progressive&quot; traffic planning of the time, sliced a neighborhood in two with an &quot;expressway&quot;, leading to its demise.

Murray Hill residents are aghast and will make their displeasure to the Mayor, the Borough President, City Council President, Council Representative, and Congressman very clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>East 34th Street is a neighborhood street &#8212; not a &#8220;transitway&#8221; or &#8220;corridor&#8221;!</p>
<p>Thousands of people, including elderly and children, live on the blocks from Madison Avenue to the river, and approximately 100 shops (most owned by small-scale entrepreneurs) line them.</p>
<p>The proposed bus lanes (and their concrete median) will block day-to-day and emergency access to apartment lobbies, service entrances, and stores.</p>
<p>And the BRT stations will throw off increased noise and pollution into adjacent apartments (great for cancer rates and blood pressure).</p>
<p>PLUS streets from 30th to 40th will suffer increased traffic &#8212; the locations for public and private schools, houses of worship, and many thousands more apartments.</p>
<p>This is the modern-day equivalent of the Bronx&#8217;s &#8220;One Mile&#8221; where Robert Moses, according to the &#8220;progressive&#8221; traffic planning of the time, sliced a neighborhood in two with an &#8220;expressway&#8221;, leading to its demise.</p>
<p>Murray Hill residents are aghast and will make their displeasure to the Mayor, the Borough President, City Council President, Council Representative, and Congressman very clear.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-1/#comment-54115</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This a great proposal.  NY has one of the finest public transport systems in the world.  As long as you want to travel north to south in Manhattan.   Travelling across the island is a disaster.   Anything like this to create quick and easy public transport across the city seems to make inordinate sense to me.   Car drivers have 33rd, 32nd, 35th, 36th to choose from very close by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This a great proposal.  NY has one of the finest public transport systems in the world.  As long as you want to travel north to south in Manhattan.   Travelling across the island is a disaster.   Anything like this to create quick and easy public transport across the city seems to make inordinate sense to me.   Car drivers have 33rd, 32nd, 35th, 36th to choose from very close by.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-1/#comment-51072</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What ronald mcdonald house employee came up with this idea for 34th street. Being somone who drives across 34th 2x a day every week day I find this plan to be incomprehensible</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What ronald mcdonald house employee came up with this idea for 34th street. Being somone who drives across 34th 2x a day every week day I find this plan to be incomprehensible</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/17/a-transit-miracle-on-34th-street/comment-page-1/#comment-50012</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 03:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sad to report that a woman on a Vélib&#039; bike was hit by a bus and killed in Paris on May 3:

http://www.leparisien.fr/home/info/vivremieux/articles/A-PARIS-LE-PIEGE-DES-COULOIRS-DE-BUS-INTERDITS_298491735

It looks like the shared bus/bike lanes contributed to the problem.  Or rather, the fact that it&#039;s not well-marked when cyclists are &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; allowed in a shared lane, as in this lane, because it&#039;s too narrow for a bus to pass a cyclist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sad to report that a woman on a Vélib&#8217; bike was hit by a bus and killed in Paris on May 3:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.leparisien.fr/home/info/vivremieux/articles/A-PARIS-LE-PIEGE-DES-COULOIRS-DE-BUS-INTERDITS_298491735" rel="nofollow">http://www.leparisien.fr/home/info/vivremieux/articles/A-PARIS-LE-PIEGE-DES-COULOIRS-DE-BUS-INTERDITS_298491735</a></p>
<p>It looks like the shared bus/bike lanes contributed to the problem.  Or rather, the fact that it&#8217;s not well-marked when cyclists are <i>not</i> allowed in a shared lane, as in this lane, because it&#8217;s too narrow for a bus to pass a cyclist.</p>
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