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	<title>Comments on: Jessica Lappin: Congestion Pricing Advocate</title>
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		<title>By: Conchetta</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/15/jessica-lappin-congestion-pricing-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-48737</link>
		<dc:creator>Conchetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Janie, but you really should fact check before you repeat things that are untrue.  We took a carriage ride in London last year, with Westways Tours - went right past Buckingham Palace!  The ones in Paris start near the Eiffel Tower.  There are carriages in Brussels, Rome, Dublin, Prague, Madrid, Warsaw, Vienna, Budapest, Berlin. In Canada, Ottawa, Montreal, and Vancouver all have them.  As a matter of fact, it is the rare city I have been in that DOESN&#039;T have carriages. As far as the States, like I said, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, San Francisco, Washington DC, St Louis, Dallas/Ft Worth, St Augustine, Denver, all across the South etc etc - all have carriages.  If you Google, you will see that they are popping up in smaller towns all over America as well. It doesn&#039;t take much to prove anything I have said here - just Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Janie, but you really should fact check before you repeat things that are untrue.  We took a carriage ride in London last year, with Westways Tours - went right past Buckingham Palace!  The ones in Paris start near the Eiffel Tower.  There are carriages in Brussels, Rome, Dublin, Prague, Madrid, Warsaw, Vienna, Budapest, Berlin. In Canada, Ottawa, Montreal, and Vancouver all have them.  As a matter of fact, it is the rare city I have been in that DOESN'T have carriages. As far as the States, like I said, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, San Francisco, Washington DC, St Louis, Dallas/Ft Worth, St Augustine, Denver, all across the South etc etc - all have carriages.  If you Google, you will see that they are popping up in smaller towns all over America as well. It doesn't take much to prove anything I have said here - just Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Janie</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/15/jessica-lappin-congestion-pricing-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-48710</link>
		<dc:creator>Janie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 03:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>London, Oxford (UK), Paris, Toronto, and even Beijing have banned horse-drawn carriages; I am not sure what you are speaking of or when you visited. Spain is legendary for its animal abuse and this represents an opportunity for change. 

In the United States, the list is growing constantly as people and municipalities become educated about the cruelty in the industry. The list of cities that have banned horse-drawn carriages includes Kenneth City, Key West, Deerfield Beach, Palm Beach, Panama City Beach, Pompano Beach, and Treasure Island. Biloxi, Mississippi banned them, as did Las Vegas and Reno, Nevada. In South Carolina, Broadway at the Beach banned this archaic industry, as did Camden, New Jersey and Virginia Beach, Virginia.

You may not consider Camden, NJ, a major city but London, Toronto, and Paris surely are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>London, Oxford (UK), Paris, Toronto, and even Beijing have banned horse-drawn carriages; I am not sure what you are speaking of or when you visited. Spain is legendary for its animal abuse and this represents an opportunity for change. </p>
<p>In the United States, the list is growing constantly as people and municipalities become educated about the cruelty in the industry. The list of cities that have banned horse-drawn carriages includes Kenneth City, Key West, Deerfield Beach, Palm Beach, Panama City Beach, Pompano Beach, and Treasure Island. Biloxi, Mississippi banned them, as did Las Vegas and Reno, Nevada. In South Carolina, Broadway at the Beach banned this archaic industry, as did Camden, New Jersey and Virginia Beach, Virginia.</p>
<p>You may not consider Camden, NJ, a major city but London, Toronto, and Paris surely are.</p>
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		<title>By: Conchetta</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/15/jessica-lappin-congestion-pricing-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-48708</link>
		<dc:creator>Conchetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most major cities have horse-drawn carriages. Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, San Francisco, Washington DC, St Louis - they all have carriages, and none of them even have a park like Central Park! They ride in the streets.  Not to mention big cities in Europe - London, Berlin, Paris, Dublin, Madrid, and actually nearly every city we went to last year through all of Eastern Europe on our tour had carriages. 
What on earth are you talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most major cities have horse-drawn carriages. Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, San Francisco, Washington DC, St Louis - they all have carriages, and none of them even have a park like Central Park! They ride in the streets.  Not to mention big cities in Europe - London, Berlin, Paris, Dublin, Madrid, and actually nearly every city we went to last year through all of Eastern Europe on our tour had carriages.<br />
What on earth are you talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: Janie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lappin needs to do some serious thinking and come to the right decision on horse-drawn carriages: ban them now, as all major cities already have done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lappin needs to do some serious thinking and come to the right decision on horse-drawn carriages: ban them now, as all major cities already have done.</p>
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		<title>By: Roxanne</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/15/jessica-lappin-congestion-pricing-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-48683</link>
		<dc:creator>Roxanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lappin supports the congestion pricing but what about the ban on horse drawn carriages. IT is cruel and unsafe and causes a lot of congestion in Midtown.  i wonder if the slush funds when into some organizations related to the horse drawn carriage industry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lappin supports the congestion pricing but what about the ban on horse drawn carriages. IT is cruel and unsafe and causes a lot of congestion in Midtown.  i wonder if the slush funds when into some organizations related to the horse drawn carriage industry</p>
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		<title>By: JF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so if Bloomberg tries to avoid making deals he displays &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/25/weiner-says-pricing-shows-stunning-political-naivete/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stunning political naivete&lt;/a&gt;, but if he makes deals it&#039;s no way to run NYC?  He could definitely have handled the issue better, but it sounds like he can&#039;t win either way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so if Bloomberg tries to avoid making deals he displays <a href="http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/25/weiner-says-pricing-shows-stunning-political-naivete/" rel="nofollow">stunning political naivete</a>, but if he makes deals it's no way to run NYC?  He could definitely have handled the issue better, but it sounds like he can't win either way.</p>
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		<title>By: ManhattanDowntowner</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/15/jessica-lappin-congestion-pricing-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-48525</link>
		<dc:creator>ManhattanDowntowner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To 11. Aaron:
You are totally cherry picking Sadik-Kahn&#039;s illegal use of a siren and speeding to Albany here.  All the other points made by Weisenberg are far more validating and substantive. 

Congestion pricing failed not because it was a bad idea or a bad vision, it failed because it was a bill that was shot full of gaping wide holes on so many levels, and Bloomberg was trying to shove it down NYC&#039;s throat in an unethical and questionably illegal manner. Weisenberg&#039;s letter touches on most of the significant points of why this tax bill was shot down, and that&#039;s why I posted it.  If you want to back and support a bill that&#039;s shotty, then that&#039;s your business.  

Right after the congestion taxing bill was shot down, I was in a conference call with my councilmember and other activists to see what concessions were made - and believe me, there were tons of concessions made for NYC councilmembers to get them to vote pro-price; a significant portion of the concessions were not even related to congestion pricing itself!  That may be Bloomberg&#039;s way of doing business, but it&#039;s no way to run NYC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To 11. Aaron:<br />
You are totally cherry picking Sadik-Kahn's illegal use of a siren and speeding to Albany here.  All the other points made by Weisenberg are far more validating and substantive. </p>
<p>Congestion pricing failed not because it was a bad idea or a bad vision, it failed because it was a bill that was shot full of gaping wide holes on so many levels, and Bloomberg was trying to shove it down NYC's throat in an unethical and questionably illegal manner. Weisenberg's letter touches on most of the significant points of why this tax bill was shot down, and that's why I posted it.  If you want to back and support a bill that's shotty, then that's your business.  </p>
<p>Right after the congestion taxing bill was shot down, I was in a conference call with my councilmember and other activists to see what concessions were made - and believe me, there were tons of concessions made for NYC councilmembers to get them to vote pro-price; a significant portion of the concessions were not even related to congestion pricing itself!  That may be Bloomberg's way of doing business, but it's no way to run NYC!</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last year, the NYLCV decided not to endorse any incumbent for office based on the overall failure to not pass the most important pieces of legislation. They got a lot of attention for it, but it left  many elected officials upset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year, the NYLCV decided not to endorse any incumbent for office based on the overall failure to not pass the most important pieces of legislation. They got a lot of attention for it, but it left  many elected officials upset.</p>
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		<title>By: Stone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feeble minded &quot;environmentalists&quot; fixated on billboards and bottles are part of the problem in Albany. The least important enviro issues have gotten the most attention. Otherwise Mr. Staunch Environmentalist wouldn&#039;t stand a chance of getting a D, let alone an A+. Something for Streetsblog to watch is the enviro grades given to electeds who opposed pricing. Something made tougher by the no vote, but the leading blow hards are known.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feeble minded "environmentalists" fixated on billboards and bottles are part of the problem in Albany. The least important enviro issues have gotten the most attention. Otherwise Mr. Staunch Environmentalist wouldn't stand a chance of getting a D, let alone an A+. Something for Streetsblog to watch is the enviro grades given to electeds who opposed pricing. Something made tougher by the no vote, but the leading blow hards are known.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Naparstek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Naparstek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see. This staunch environmentalist rejected the most far-reaching environmentally beneficial policy likely ever to cross his desk because the DOT commissioner&#039;s driver was caught speeding to Albany on the Thruway.

Manhattan Downtowner: Enjoy that Nassau County motor vehicle traffic rumbling over the free Manhattan Bridge and clogging up Canal Street on its way to the free, west-bound Holland Tunnel. Those are Mr. Weisenberg&#039;s constituents driving through our neighborhoods, filling our air with the sound of horn honking and the stench of tailpipe excretion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see. This staunch environmentalist rejected the most far-reaching environmentally beneficial policy likely ever to cross his desk because the DOT commissioner's driver was caught speeding to Albany on the Thruway.</p>
<p>Manhattan Downtowner: Enjoy that Nassau County motor vehicle traffic rumbling over the free Manhattan Bridge and clogging up Canal Street on its way to the free, west-bound Holland Tunnel. Those are Mr. Weisenberg's constituents driving through our neighborhoods, filling our air with the sound of horn honking and the stench of tailpipe excretion.</p>
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		<title>By: ManhattanDowntowner</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/15/jessica-lappin-congestion-pricing-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-48472</link>
		<dc:creator>ManhattanDowntowner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want to know why congestion taxing failed?
This letter is in response to anti-pricing calls and emails from Harvey Weisenberg, Member of Assembly

Dear M. XXXX:

I have received your letter regarding congestion pricing. After much 
debate, this controversial issue has concluded, with the state 
legislature declining to act on this measure. While the issue was 
pending, I received hundred of e-mails, phone calls and letters both 
supporting and opposing the initiative.

In order to clarify my position, I would like to share the following 
observations of events as they unfolded in Albany, leading to my 
opposition to a plan that I believe was fiscally unsound, ethically 
questionable and legally problematic:

· The absence of environmental impact review of the plan, as mandated by 
current law under the State Environmental Quality Review Act, which 
requires review before an action. The City of New York, who have become 
experts at avoiding environmental reviews like this, planned to adhere 
to SEQRA after its implementation

· Ethically questionable political tactics by Bloomberg supporters who 
attempted to exploit environmental groups to sway legislators through 
political contributions and intimidation. Simply put, my vote is not for 
sale to the highest bidder. It already belongs to the people of the 
20^th Assembly District, the majority of who oppose this plan.

· A New York City official was ticketed in transit to Albany for using a 
city vehicle with lights and sirens and excessive speed in order to 
lobby for congestion pricing, a fine example of the lengths Mayor 
Bloomberg will go to flex his muscle.

· The plan was widely touted to be a 3 year pilot, but 30 year bonds 
were built into the plan, which closed the doors of opportunity to 
revisit the issue, even if things went awry upon implementation.

· According to our state’s fiscal experts, the MTA was under funded by 
$14 billion in the plan. When has the MTA kept their promises, even when 
funded adequately?

· Once approved, the cost to commuters would have automatically and 
steeply increased, again with no opportunity to revisit.

· When taken as a whole, the City of New York wanted Long Island to pay, 
but not New Jersey.

As a staunch environmentalist who has received ratings of A+ from our 
state’s environmental groups on my earlier votes, congestion pricing 
proved to be a difficult issue to grapple with as a legislator. I know 
that many people are happy with my decision and some are not. Sadly, as 
the situation unfolded, the issue was no longer about congestion 
pricing, tolls, or even the environment. It became an issue of power, 
money, greed and politics at its worst. As a state leader, I believe we 
can do better.

Thank you for taking the time to contact me to share your views.

Sincerely,

Harvey Weisenberg

Member of Assembly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to know why congestion taxing failed?<br />
This letter is in response to anti-pricing calls and emails from Harvey Weisenberg, Member of Assembly</p>
<p>Dear M. XXXX:</p>
<p>I have received your letter regarding congestion pricing. After much<br />
debate, this controversial issue has concluded, with the state<br />
legislature declining to act on this measure. While the issue was<br />
pending, I received hundred of e-mails, phone calls and letters both<br />
supporting and opposing the initiative.</p>
<p>In order to clarify my position, I would like to share the following<br />
observations of events as they unfolded in Albany, leading to my<br />
opposition to a plan that I believe was fiscally unsound, ethically<br />
questionable and legally problematic:</p>
<p>· The absence of environmental impact review of the plan, as mandated by<br />
current law under the State Environmental Quality Review Act, which<br />
requires review before an action. The City of New York, who have become<br />
experts at avoiding environmental reviews like this, planned to adhere<br />
to SEQRA after its implementation</p>
<p>· Ethically questionable political tactics by Bloomberg supporters who<br />
attempted to exploit environmental groups to sway legislators through<br />
political contributions and intimidation. Simply put, my vote is not for<br />
sale to the highest bidder. It already belongs to the people of the<br />
20^th Assembly District, the majority of who oppose this plan.</p>
<p>· A New York City official was ticketed in transit to Albany for using a<br />
city vehicle with lights and sirens and excessive speed in order to<br />
lobby for congestion pricing, a fine example of the lengths Mayor<br />
Bloomberg will go to flex his muscle.</p>
<p>· The plan was widely touted to be a 3 year pilot, but 30 year bonds<br />
were built into the plan, which closed the doors of opportunity to<br />
revisit the issue, even if things went awry upon implementation.</p>
<p>· According to our state’s fiscal experts, the MTA was under funded by<br />
$14 billion in the plan. When has the MTA kept their promises, even when<br />
funded adequately?</p>
<p>· Once approved, the cost to commuters would have automatically and<br />
steeply increased, again with no opportunity to revisit.</p>
<p>· When taken as a whole, the City of New York wanted Long Island to pay,<br />
but not New Jersey.</p>
<p>As a staunch environmentalist who has received ratings of A+ from our<br />
state’s environmental groups on my earlier votes, congestion pricing<br />
proved to be a difficult issue to grapple with as a legislator. I know<br />
that many people are happy with my decision and some are not. Sadly, as<br />
the situation unfolded, the issue was no longer about congestion<br />
pricing, tolls, or even the environment. It became an issue of power,<br />
money, greed and politics at its worst. As a state leader, I believe we<br />
can do better.</p>
<p>Thank you for taking the time to contact me to share your views.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Harvey Weisenberg</p>
<p>Member of Assembly</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/15/jessica-lappin-congestion-pricing-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-48451</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As if we needed reminding, more evidence that legislators&#039; votes are but one measure of their effectiveness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As if we needed reminding, more evidence that legislators' votes are but one measure of their effectiveness.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/15/jessica-lappin-congestion-pricing-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-48436</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately for free transit, transit costs lots of money.

Not so bicycle riding.  Lappin&#039;s flip is as a result of this -- with CP dead, drivers are satisfied, so you have to be more afraid of non-drivers -- especially as the MTA budget problems intensify.

Walking and biking costs little in the way of public money, however, so it&#039;s a cheap way to placate Streetsbloggers.  Hence Plan B.

This whole debate has changed my mind.  So others as well.  If I&#039;m paying as much per person as drivers for scarce space, how about giving me my share of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately for free transit, transit costs lots of money.</p>
<p>Not so bicycle riding.  Lappin's flip is as a result of this -- with CP dead, drivers are satisfied, so you have to be more afraid of non-drivers -- especially as the MTA budget problems intensify.</p>
<p>Walking and biking costs little in the way of public money, however, so it's a cheap way to placate Streetsbloggers.  Hence Plan B.</p>
<p>This whole debate has changed my mind.  So others as well.  If I'm paying as much per person as drivers for scarce space, how about giving me my share of it?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg R,</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/15/jessica-lappin-congestion-pricing-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-48433</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg R,</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m back to emphasize branding!  As someone watching from afar (and missing the place), I just want to re-iterate: Congestion Pricing is a great idea with a phenomenally crappy name.  Rebrand!  Rebrand!

-GR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm back to emphasize branding!  As someone watching from afar (and missing the place), I just want to re-iterate: Congestion Pricing is a great idea with a phenomenally crappy name.  Rebrand!  Rebrand!</p>
<p>-GR</p>
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		<title>By: Nassau Nell</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/15/jessica-lappin-congestion-pricing-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-48432</link>
		<dc:creator>Nassau Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This legislator is hot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This legislator is hot!</p>
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		<title>By: Bedraj Tripathy</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/15/jessica-lappin-congestion-pricing-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-48431</link>
		<dc:creator>Bedraj Tripathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Charles has a very valid point. The ones promoting congestion pricing are very limited in their view of why we need congestion pricing. And if they them selves see it only for drivers, then how can they move public (read sleepy council members) to vote for it. 

Thanks Charles. Good point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Charles has a very valid point. The ones promoting congestion pricing are very limited in their view of why we need congestion pricing. And if they them selves see it only for drivers, then how can they move public (read sleepy council members) to vote for it. </p>
<p>Thanks Charles. Good point.</p>
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		<title>By: Bedraj Tripathy</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/15/jessica-lappin-congestion-pricing-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-48430</link>
		<dc:creator>Bedraj Tripathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a classic example of politics winning over betterment of citizens in general. This is a classic example of incompetency that we see amongst legislators and law makers. Misusage of power - for ego trips, for winning votes and staying popular (presumably so). There are times, when the council members or politicians in general need to move beyond business as usual and get more sensitive and pragmatic about the present and future of the city and citizens. 

Michael Bloomberg, Jessica Lappin have done their bit for congestion pricing and certainly are seen as strong citizen centric officials. 

But hey, just singing in the choir does not make you Pavarotti. I think it is a systemic failure by each and every individual who is at the helm of things and could have made a positive impact on citizens. 

Very sad! We seem to be our greatest enemy!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a classic example of politics winning over betterment of citizens in general. This is a classic example of incompetency that we see amongst legislators and law makers. Misusage of power - for ego trips, for winning votes and staying popular (presumably so). There are times, when the council members or politicians in general need to move beyond business as usual and get more sensitive and pragmatic about the present and future of the city and citizens. </p>
<p>Michael Bloomberg, Jessica Lappin have done their bit for congestion pricing and certainly are seen as strong citizen centric officials. </p>
<p>But hey, just singing in the choir does not make you Pavarotti. I think it is a systemic failure by each and every individual who is at the helm of things and could have made a positive impact on citizens. </p>
<p>Very sad! We seem to be our greatest enemy!!!</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/15/jessica-lappin-congestion-pricing-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-48426</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With free mass transit it would be difficult to label the Kheel Plan as elitist with a major benefit to a potentially not-so-silent majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With free mass transit it would be difficult to label the Kheel Plan as elitist with a major benefit to a potentially not-so-silent majority.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Komanoff</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/15/jessica-lappin-congestion-pricing-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-48424</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Komanoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lappin&#039;s 2nd graf starts thus: &quot;Anyone who drives in New York understands that congestion is a major problem ...&quot;

Framing congestion as a problem only for &quot;anyone who drives&quot; is unfortunate. It doesn&#039;t just betray a windshield perspective. It reduces congestion to a problem for drivers, thus eliminating from the equation the time costs to bus riders, walkers and cyclists, not to mention the maddening impact on all of us from the sheer physical presence of all that traffic.

Lappin&#039;s framing also brings back my frustration over remarks I heard from lots of nice New Yorkers when I tabled for c.p. last summer: &quot;Congestion pricing? Doesn&#039;t affect me, I don&#039;t drive.&quot; Grr. That&#039;s the silent majority that didn&#039;t go to bat for congestion pricing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lappin's 2nd graf starts thus: "Anyone who drives in New York understands that congestion is a major problem ..."</p>
<p>Framing congestion as a problem only for "anyone who drives" is unfortunate. It doesn't just betray a windshield perspective. It reduces congestion to a problem for drivers, thus eliminating from the equation the time costs to bus riders, walkers and cyclists, not to mention the maddening impact on all of us from the sheer physical presence of all that traffic.</p>
<p>Lappin's framing also brings back my frustration over remarks I heard from lots of nice New Yorkers when I tabled for c.p. last summer: "Congestion pricing? Doesn't affect me, I don't drive." Grr. That's the silent majority that didn't go to bat for congestion pricing.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/15/jessica-lappin-congestion-pricing-advocate/comment-page-1/#comment-48420</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully, some time soon there will be a tipping point of political will for major change.  

The Kheel Plan would be a good start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully, some time soon there will be a tipping point of political will for major change.  </p>
<p>The Kheel Plan would be a good start.</p>
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