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	<title>Comments on: Assembly Dems Kill Pricing</title>
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		<title>By: Nick from CA</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/07/assembly-dems-kill-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-49770</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick from CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jmc wrote:

&quot;Albany is disgusting and useless. There&#039;s really no point in New York City staying part of the state.&quot;

Yes, New York City should become its own city-state of Gotham, taking Nassau and Westchester Counties with it.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;hl=en&amp;msa=0&amp;ll=40.709792,-73.681183&amp;spn=0.811967,1.834717&amp;t=h&amp;z=10&amp;msid=116444341505082638663.00044cabf47400b802cec</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jmc wrote:</p>
<p>"Albany is disgusting and useless. There's really no point in New York City staying part of the state."</p>
<p>Yes, New York City should become its own city-state of Gotham, taking Nassau and Westchester Counties with it.</p>
<p><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;hl=en&amp;msa=0&amp;ll=40.709792,-73.681183&amp;spn=0.811967,1.834717&amp;t=h&amp;z=10&amp;msid=116444341505082638663.00044cabf47400b802cec" rel="nofollow">http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;hl=en&amp;msa=0&amp;ll=40.709792,-73.681183&amp;spn=0.811967,1.834717&amp;t=h&amp;z=10&amp;msid=116444341505082638663.00044cabf47400b802cec</a></p>
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		<title>By: DAVID</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/07/assembly-dems-kill-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-47864</link>
		<dc:creator>DAVID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea that CP would have been a disaster, creating park lots in communities  like brooklyn heights and fort greene is absurb.  It is already difficult to find parking there. Those LI commuters they have a hard time stepping out of their cars. I can&#039;t imagine them circling around neighborhoods in fort greene searching for parking for 45 minutes then running back to the atlantic avenue subway or LIRR to get a train. That would have added a good hour to many commuter routine.   They would have eventually taken the subway like more respectful human beings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that CP would have been a disaster, creating park lots in communities  like brooklyn heights and fort greene is absurb.  It is already difficult to find parking there. Those LI commuters they have a hard time stepping out of their cars. I can't imagine them circling around neighborhoods in fort greene searching for parking for 45 minutes then running back to the atlantic avenue subway or LIRR to get a train. That would have added a good hour to many commuter routine.   They would have eventually taken the subway like more respectful human beings.</p>
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		<title>By: DAVID</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/07/assembly-dems-kill-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-47861</link>
		<dc:creator>DAVID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly there are alot of drivers in the outer boroughs...but many of us supported congestion trafficing. Anything incentive to make driving outrageously expensive (like cigarette taxes) I whole heartedly support.  We have too much street traffic, pollution...and a fairly decent mass transit.  I&#039;m sick of these LI, Jersey, and Westchester commuters clogging up manhattan with their daily commutes. Too bad this is was killed by Silver and other Democrats.  Hopefully next time CP comes on the table, it will be a higher tax and a wider circumference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly there are alot of drivers in the outer boroughs...but many of us supported congestion trafficing. Anything incentive to make driving outrageously expensive (like cigarette taxes) I whole heartedly support.  We have too much street traffic, pollution...and a fairly decent mass transit.  I'm sick of these LI, Jersey, and Westchester commuters clogging up manhattan with their daily commutes. Too bad this is was killed by Silver and other Democrats.  Hopefully next time CP comes on the table, it will be a higher tax and a wider circumference.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/07/assembly-dems-kill-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-47808</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All so very sad!  It meant so much to so many people! Not to put Congestion Pricing to the Vote is a disgrace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All so very sad!  It meant so much to so many people! Not to put Congestion Pricing to the Vote is a disgrace!</p>
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		<title>By: JF</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/07/assembly-dems-kill-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-47803</link>
		<dc:creator>JF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the positive side, it should be a piece of cake to implement effective parking permit reform, given the number of people who have publicly come out in favor of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the positive side, it should be a piece of cake to implement effective parking permit reform, given the number of people who have publicly come out in favor of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason A</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/07/assembly-dems-kill-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-47794</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To anyone in Southern Brooklyn, Staten Island and Eastern Queens who fought congestion pricing, congratulations on preserving you little corner of Orange County in NYC.  In a city of 8 million, you insist on forsaking the smart planning, and dense development that makes mass transit affordable - yet demand the rest of us subsidize your wasteful, car-centric ways.  You keep the American Dream alive - asking for everything and paying for nothing...  

And a big sarcastic &quot;thank-you&quot; to all the class-warriors out there who insisted CP would be an &quot;unfair tax on the middle-class!&quot;  As a middle class stiff myself, I&#039;ll be grateful for all your obstructionism of my behalf the next time I have to wait more than 20 minutes for a G 
train... or see yet another over-crowded, over-burdened F train pass me by...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To anyone in Southern Brooklyn, Staten Island and Eastern Queens who fought congestion pricing, congratulations on preserving you little corner of Orange County in NYC.  In a city of 8 million, you insist on forsaking the smart planning, and dense development that makes mass transit affordable - yet demand the rest of us subsidize your wasteful, car-centric ways.  You keep the American Dream alive - asking for everything and paying for nothing...  </p>
<p>And a big sarcastic "thank-you" to all the class-warriors out there who insisted CP would be an "unfair tax on the middle-class!"  As a middle class stiff myself, I'll be grateful for all your obstructionism of my behalf the next time I have to wait more than 20 minutes for a G<br />
train... or see yet another over-crowded, over-burdened F train pass me by...</p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niccolo - the part about partnering with private bus companies was just a preemptive way of dealing with the trolls who would try to shoot down any suggestion of BRT on the basis that the MTA doesn&#039;t have the resources or the willingness to implement it.  The successful Bogota TransMilenio BRT system is also based on private buses.  I would have no problem with this kind of privatization if that&#039;s what it takes to get BRT set up quickly, so long as the fare is consistent and the buses use the same fare card system as public transit. (Metrocard until we get something better)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niccolo - the part about partnering with private bus companies was just a preemptive way of dealing with the trolls who would try to shoot down any suggestion of BRT on the basis that the MTA doesn't have the resources or the willingness to implement it.  The successful Bogota TransMilenio BRT system is also based on private buses.  I would have no problem with this kind of privatization if that's what it takes to get BRT set up quickly, so long as the fare is consistent and the buses use the same fare card system as public transit. (Metrocard until we get something better)</p>
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		<title>By: jmc</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/07/assembly-dems-kill-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-47788</link>
		<dc:creator>jmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really indecent that they didn&#039;t allow a vote. Parliaments are allowed to bring up a vote in totalitarian countries.

Albany is disgusting and useless. There&#039;s really no point in New York City staying part of the state. 

The Democrats are ideologically bankrupt and are not a force for good in the State of New York.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's really indecent that they didn't allow a vote. Parliaments are allowed to bring up a vote in totalitarian countries.</p>
<p>Albany is disgusting and useless. There's really no point in New York City staying part of the state. </p>
<p>The Democrats are ideologically bankrupt and are not a force for good in the State of New York.</p>
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		<title>By: Niccolo Machiavelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niccolo Machiavelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great rant Aaron until the last parentheses.  You lost me there, but I&#039;m not a one issue guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great rant Aaron until the last parentheses.  You lost me there, but I'm not a one issue guy.</p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/07/assembly-dems-kill-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-47785</link>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the next best thing the city can do without asking for Silver&#039;s wrongheaded opinion?  How about doing everything in its power to make driving in Manhattan EXTREMELY inconvenient.  Let&#039;s raise all fines by a whole order of magnitude and actually enforce the laws we have.  So much as pulling into a bike lane to pick up or let off a passenger should be an automatic $500 fine.  If those kinds of measures don&#039;t serve as a deterrent I don&#039;t know what will.

Want to have a cheap huge house in an environmentally unsustainable low-density suburban neighborhood?  Pay the price in the form of more time on the bus/train or huge fines should you choose to drive and commit the slightest moving or parking violation.  Or do like the rest of us do and get a compact yet comfortable shoebox apartment with good transit and cycling options.  The city needs to send the message that when it comes to suburban living, you can&#039;t have your cake and eat it too.  Do that and we&#039;ll also see affordable high-density housing in close proximity to Subway/PATH sprout up at a lightning pace.

For born and bred Manhattanites with asthma like myself, this &quot;fundamental right&quot; that Silver, Glick, and other faux liberal traitor dems are trying to preserve is injurious enough.  Suburban SUVs don&#039;t just road rage around our island and shit asthma-inducing pollution into the air we breath 24x7, though.  Adding insult to injury these vehicles bring with them drivers (and occasionally passengers) who, stemming from their distorted perception of reality, have values and priorities entirely antithetical to our own.  No time to enumerate the most common suburban attitudes, but suffice it to say racism, classism, &quot;Support Our Troops&quot; gas guzzlers, and the God-given right of excessive resource consumption factor prominently.  This is not to stereotype everyone who lives in suburbia, but is more an observation of the mindset that suburban living tends to encourage and of a recognition of the beliefs out of which suburbia grew.  The city should do less to accommodate that lifestyle, congestion pricing or not.

Bloomberg and Quinn: You can start by reigning in Ray Kelly and our out of control police department.  Stop harassing cyclists and start punishing unnecessary driving instead.  Make it clear that pedestrians, cyclists and buses are the prioritized users of our public spaces and that the rights of the motorist are subordinate.  Investigate and penalize pro-car cops who turn a blind eye.  Eliminate placard abuse and issue placards in only the most unusual of circumstances.  Replace street parking with green space and car lanes with automated, bollard-protected BRT routes. (and partner with private bus companies to add service that the MTA cannot afford to offer)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What's the next best thing the city can do without asking for Silver's wrongheaded opinion?  How about doing everything in its power to make driving in Manhattan EXTREMELY inconvenient.  Let's raise all fines by a whole order of magnitude and actually enforce the laws we have.  So much as pulling into a bike lane to pick up or let off a passenger should be an automatic $500 fine.  If those kinds of measures don't serve as a deterrent I don't know what will.</p>
<p>Want to have a cheap huge house in an environmentally unsustainable low-density suburban neighborhood?  Pay the price in the form of more time on the bus/train or huge fines should you choose to drive and commit the slightest moving or parking violation.  Or do like the rest of us do and get a compact yet comfortable shoebox apartment with good transit and cycling options.  The city needs to send the message that when it comes to suburban living, you can't have your cake and eat it too.  Do that and we'll also see affordable high-density housing in close proximity to Subway/PATH sprout up at a lightning pace.</p>
<p>For born and bred Manhattanites with asthma like myself, this "fundamental right" that Silver, Glick, and other faux liberal traitor dems are trying to preserve is injurious enough.  Suburban SUVs don't just road rage around our island and shit asthma-inducing pollution into the air we breath 24x7, though.  Adding insult to injury these vehicles bring with them drivers (and occasionally passengers) who, stemming from their distorted perception of reality, have values and priorities entirely antithetical to our own.  No time to enumerate the most common suburban attitudes, but suffice it to say racism, classism, "Support Our Troops" gas guzzlers, and the God-given right of excessive resource consumption factor prominently.  This is not to stereotype everyone who lives in suburbia, but is more an observation of the mindset that suburban living tends to encourage and of a recognition of the beliefs out of which suburbia grew.  The city should do less to accommodate that lifestyle, congestion pricing or not.</p>
<p>Bloomberg and Quinn: You can start by reigning in Ray Kelly and our out of control police department.  Stop harassing cyclists and start punishing unnecessary driving instead.  Make it clear that pedestrians, cyclists and buses are the prioritized users of our public spaces and that the rights of the motorist are subordinate.  Investigate and penalize pro-car cops who turn a blind eye.  Eliminate placard abuse and issue placards in only the most unusual of circumstances.  Replace street parking with green space and car lanes with automated, bollard-protected BRT routes. (and partner with private bus companies to add service that the MTA cannot afford to offer)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/07/assembly-dems-kill-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-47779</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dot.gov/affairs/dot4808.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This just in&lt;/a&gt; from U.S. Secretary of Transportation Mary Peters: &quot;New York&#039;s mounting traffic and environmental woes point to congestion pricing as an inevitable solution, even if not in the next few months or with the assistance of federal Urban Partnership dollars.&quot; An inevitable solution -- I like the sound of that. I&#039;ll take my optimism wherever I can get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.dot.gov/affairs/dot4808.htm" rel="nofollow">This just in</a> from U.S. Secretary of Transportation Mary Peters: "New York's mounting traffic and environmental woes point to congestion pricing as an inevitable solution, even if not in the next few months or with the assistance of federal Urban Partnership dollars." An inevitable solution -- I like the sound of that. I'll take my optimism wherever I can get it.</p>
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		<title>By: disgusted</title>
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		<dc:creator>disgusted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CP hasn&#039;t looked like it was going to pass the state legislature even before the council voted.  But to not even put the bill on the floor is appalling.  The assembly killed the bill without even having the guts to let the public know who voted for and against.  Hey, I used &quot;even&quot; in every sentence.  Now it&#039;s time to get even.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CP hasn't looked like it was going to pass the state legislature even before the council voted.  But to not even put the bill on the floor is appalling.  The assembly killed the bill without even having the guts to let the public know who voted for and against.  Hey, I used "even" in every sentence.  Now it's time to get even.</p>
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		<title>By: brent</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/07/assembly-dems-kill-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-47759</link>
		<dc:creator>brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, if the issue had made it to the voting stage and been defeated, I would have been upset. To kill it by not voting at all, however, is totally unacceptable. There are a lot of people who supported this measure and worked hard to take it this far. Besides being an act of cowardice, not voting is a direct snub against all of the citizens who are genuinely concerned about the future of New York and are working to take action to improve things. For the dems to take no action really says a lot about what they think of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, if the issue had made it to the voting stage and been defeated, I would have been upset. To kill it by not voting at all, however, is totally unacceptable. There are a lot of people who supported this measure and worked hard to take it this far. Besides being an act of cowardice, not voting is a direct snub against all of the citizens who are genuinely concerned about the future of New York and are working to take action to improve things. For the dems to take no action really says a lot about what they think of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Seb</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/07/assembly-dems-kill-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-47757</link>
		<dc:creator>Seb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Brennan Center&#039;s blog commented on this:

http://reformny.blogspot.com/2008/04/secret-assembly-within-public-assembly.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Brennan Center's blog commented on this:</p>
<p><a href="http://reformny.blogspot.com/2008/04/secret-assembly-within-public-assembly.html" rel="nofollow">http://reformny.blogspot.com/2008/04/secret-assembly-within-public-assembly.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Spud Spudly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spud Spudly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure you guys were praising Shelly when he killed off the west side stadium plan.  Well, I&#039;m going to send him some hamentashen this year.  Prune, probably his favorite kind.  

Actually, I get the impression Shelly would have gone for CP in a lukewarm fashion but just couldn&#039;t wrangle his people.

Anyway, before any Streetsblog newcomers accuse me of being anti-anti-congestion, I still support other efforts to decrease car use in the city just so long as they affect all car users and not just those who can&#039;t afford to pay.  As for MTA funds, how about a one percent tax on millionaires?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm sure you guys were praising Shelly when he killed off the west side stadium plan.  Well, I'm going to send him some hamentashen this year.  Prune, probably his favorite kind.  </p>
<p>Actually, I get the impression Shelly would have gone for CP in a lukewarm fashion but just couldn't wrangle his people.</p>
<p>Anyway, before any Streetsblog newcomers accuse me of being anti-anti-congestion, I still support other efforts to decrease car use in the city just so long as they affect all car users and not just those who can't afford to pay.  As for MTA funds, how about a one percent tax on millionaires?</p>
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		<title>By: Curious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Millman,
I hope that someone runs against her, but I dont see any contenders. She missed a great chance to champion a policy that would tremendously aid almost all of her constituents.  If these people do not want to vote on policy and instead shirk any chance to lead, why are the elected officials?  I dont get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Millman,<br />
I hope that someone runs against her, but I dont see any contenders. She missed a great chance to champion a policy that would tremendously aid almost all of her constituents.  If these people do not want to vote on policy and instead shirk any chance to lead, why are the elected officials?  I dont get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan&#039;s post seems strikingly similar to multi-graf posts written in a similar style under a variety of names. If my suspicion is correct, this person has wasted a remarkable amount of our time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan's post seems strikingly similar to multi-graf posts written in a similar style under a variety of names. If my suspicion is correct, this person has wasted a remarkable amount of our time.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Barnett</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/07/assembly-dems-kill-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-47743</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Did Assembly Dems kill Streetsblog too? No we&#039;re back up because I was able to post this message.)

If &quot;the youth&quot; are out to vote for a certain presidential candidate this year, it will increase the effect that sites like this one can have in the election. I haven&#039;t paid much attention to local politics until this disaster; now I&#039;m sick from watching it. Not voting. Not even voting on congestion pricing. And this is apparently the norm. But we won&#039;t be shy about voting in November, and campaigning and donating before that.

As registered Democrats, most of us get to vote twice against the jokers that did not take a position (like my rep). This is the year for any transportation-minded Democratic or Republican hopeful to get into the Assembly. Hey, that&#039;s another way to dethrone Silver the Congestion Pricing Strangler: deprive his ideologically bankrupt state party of its Assembly majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Did Assembly Dems kill Streetsblog too? No we're back up because I was able to post this message.)</p>
<p>If "the youth" are out to vote for a certain presidential candidate this year, it will increase the effect that sites like this one can have in the election. I haven't paid much attention to local politics until this disaster; now I'm sick from watching it. Not voting. Not even voting on congestion pricing. And this is apparently the norm. But we won't be shy about voting in November, and campaigning and donating before that.</p>
<p>As registered Democrats, most of us get to vote twice against the jokers that did not take a position (like my rep). This is the year for any transportation-minded Democratic or Republican hopeful to get into the Assembly. Hey, that's another way to dethrone Silver the Congestion Pricing Strangler: deprive his ideologically bankrupt state party of its Assembly majority.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/07/assembly-dems-kill-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-47739</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan: 
Congestion pricing is (was) Manhattan-centric, but so is New York City&#039;s traffic problem and New York&#039;s economy. I live in Brooklyn and have since I moved here 10 years ago. I have never owned a car, and of the dozens of friends I know in Brooklyn, only a handful own cars. And of those few, I don&#039;t know anybody who drives into Manhattan to commute. 

Take a look at the next Manhattan parking lot you pass and tell me the owners of all those Mercedes, BMWs and Lexus SUVs can&#039;t afford $8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan:<br />
Congestion pricing is (was) Manhattan-centric, but so is New York City's traffic problem and New York's economy. I live in Brooklyn and have since I moved here 10 years ago. I have never owned a car, and of the dozens of friends I know in Brooklyn, only a handful own cars. And of those few, I don't know anybody who drives into Manhattan to commute. </p>
<p>Take a look at the next Manhattan parking lot you pass and tell me the owners of all those Mercedes, BMWs and Lexus SUVs can't afford $8.</p>
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		<title>By: nobody</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/07/assembly-dems-kill-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-47738</link>
		<dc:creator>nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find no end in amusement from people like Dan (#7), who seem constitutionally unable to realize the blindingly obvious reason why congestion pricing would toll private motor vehicles coming in and out of Manhattan -- that&#039;s the region&#039;s Central Business District, and where most of the congestion is, and where there is currently high quality public transit.  Still, opponents whine on and on about the plan&#039;s being &quot;Manhattan-centric&quot;, as it was an arbitrary choice of boroughs.

If the pro-congestion whiners had any more vision and fortitude, they would have worked with the administration to plan congestion pricing within Downtown Brooklyn, or Flushing, or other appropriate areas of the City.

But instead, they did nothing.  They don&#039;t really want to do anything about traffic congestion.  They want to continue to sit in their cars and breath in the ever-increasing exhaust fumes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find no end in amusement from people like Dan (#7), who seem constitutionally unable to realize the blindingly obvious reason why congestion pricing would toll private motor vehicles coming in and out of Manhattan -- that's the region's Central Business District, and where most of the congestion is, and where there is currently high quality public transit.  Still, opponents whine on and on about the plan's being "Manhattan-centric", as it was an arbitrary choice of boroughs.</p>
<p>If the pro-congestion whiners had any more vision and fortitude, they would have worked with the administration to plan congestion pricing within Downtown Brooklyn, or Flushing, or other appropriate areas of the City.</p>
<p>But instead, they did nothing.  They don't really want to do anything about traffic congestion.  They want to continue to sit in their cars and breath in the ever-increasing exhaust fumes.</p>
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