The city has suffered long enough from the NIMBY politicians (Glick?), CB's and those who would protect the poor minority at the expense of the middle-and-up majority.

Let them be priced out of the city and go somewhere else...good riddance!

Dave, I wouldn't support a program that would price out the poor minority. It's precisely because the poor minority would be unaffected by CP that I'm unswayed by the attempts of people like Brodsky to frame this as a regressive tax.

But perhaps he's one of these overly-liberal types that will sacrifice the benefit to the city at large for that tiny minority inconvenienced by CP?

The city has suffered long enough from the NIMBY politicians (Glick?), CB's and those who would protect the poor minority at the expense of the middle-and-up majority.

Let them be priced out of the city and go somewhere else...good riddance!

I find it hard to see how anyone can interpret my responses to your points (comments #5 and #11) as sanctimonious or demeaning.

But congrats on reading lots of newspapers, being highly educated and living in NYC for 20 years without a car. Good for you!

But almost everyone on here (and Bloomberg too) treats everyone else as stupid.

Pot, kettle, black. Read your own posts, Ed.

The whole debate could do with a lot less people treating everyone on the other side as stupid. Since you're concerned about it, you could set an example. How about you show even one iota of suspicion that anyone pro-CP could actually know something you don't?

I bet you're a newcomer to NY, Davis. I've been here for over 20 yrs and am against CP and I don't own a car. And I bet that I read more newspapers and am more educated than you will ever be so don't throw your insulting crap around.

Davis wrote:

You should be paying for the privilege of storing your space-hogging, horn-honking, exhaust-spewing, planet-warming, oil war-causing, piece o crap GM Hummerscelade on publicly-owned streets that could be put to much better use if there weren't so many cars on clogging it up.

Okay Davis, well pay CP if you promise to leave NY. As I see it you are a space hogging, horn honking, exhaust spewing, planet warming piece of crap on publicly owned streets.

Jack actually trips himself up by calling it a privilege to park in front of his home. A privilege is something you pay for...and at $90 a month a bargain. The street should never have been allowed to be overrun with cars and used as storage.

I bet Jack drives over the free bridges that our tax dollars got to maintain and doesn't understand that those funds could be used for a better benfit to the city, rather than supporting his free-driving habit.

And I bet RPP won't be successful in the outer boroughs exactly for the small-minded reasons Jack puts forth. That is why I think Bloomberg should have mandated it for the entire city.

But I accept that won't happen. I'll just be glad when CP passes. A small first step to making drivers pay for the damage they cause to the standard of living in this city, but a step in the right direction.

IT IS AMAZING HOW TOTALLY OUT OF TOUCH ALL OF YOU ARE WITH THE COST OF RAISING A FAMILY IN THE OUTER BOROUGHS

Um, hi, Jack! I'm raising a family in the outer boroughs ... without a car. Prices are going up for us, but probably not as much as for you, since we've got a relatively small apartment and don't have to pay all the expenses of a car.

At this time when the city is cutting the school budgets, do you think we really want to keep paying to clean, pave and police your parking space and roads? No! You want your house, yard and car, you pay for all the extra city services it requires.

The problem is not that city is becoming too elitist or expensive, it is the fact that the subsidies that flow out of Manhattan to the other boroughs are being scaled back. People in the boroughs have been so coddled and given so much for free that now that moan about paying their fair share. Buck it up.

Of course the real villains are Washington and Albany that rape the city of tax dollars and are responsible for property tax increase and fuel costs.

So Jack if you can't affod the city....leave. Move to Farmingdale or some bland suburb. If enough people leave values will fall and then maybe the city will become more affordable. Maybe too late for you but oh well.

And besides, if your outer boro neighborhood doesn't want RPP's, you don't have to have them.

IT IS AMAZING HOW TOTALLY OUT OF TOUCH ALL OF YOU ARE WITH THE COST OF RAISING A FAMILY IN THE OUTER BOROUGHS, PAYING EVER INCREASING REAL ESTATE TAXES,FUEL COSTS, WATER TAXES, HOME OWNER INSURANCE, AND NOW YOU WANT A $90.00 A MONTH ADDITIONAL FEE FOR THE PRIVLEDGE OR PARKING IN OUR OWN NEIBORHOODS... AND WE ALL KNOW, OR SHOULD... THAT EACH YEAR IT WILL GO UP YEAR AFTER YEAR, EVEN IF TO GET THIS SCHEME PASSED IT BEGINS AT ZERO!

Where did this ridiculous idea "People shouldn't have to pay to park in front of their own homes" come from? If you want that buy a house with a driveway.

And I bet the people complaining the loudest about an RPP fee are the same ones double-parking in front of Starbucks for their $4 coffee.

Price an RPP permit at $3 a day (less than one round-trip subway fare but less than a coffee) or $90 a month. Well worth it for a much-improced chance of parking and think how far that would go to closing the MTA gap.

I mean, now we hear that the entire future of the city is tied to this? It wasn't that way 3 months ago.

Ed,

The MTA debt bomb has been looming over this year's state budget for about 25 years and the importance of congestion pricing to NYCs economic and environmental well-being has been widely and publicly under discussion for at least two years now.

If this is all news to you, you should complain to the editorial board of whatever local paper you happen to read. This is what you've been missing during all that coverage of A-Rod's salary negotiations and various governors' sexual exploits.

And the entire way that Bloomberg is calling his opponents "stupid" for questioning this, this is a major, major change that requires questions.

There's nothing stupid about asking questions. There is something stupid about ignoring the perfectly reasonable answers you get to those questions and then repeating the questions over and over.

I remember the same scramble for the west side stadium that failed. Not all legislation is made up of this last minute wheeling and dealing such as the public funding of the two stadiums, only the most controversial and suspect.

I mean, now we hear that the entire future of the city is tied to this? It wasn't that way 3 months ago. The hyperbole is way over the top. And the entire way that Bloomberg is calling his opponents "stupid" for questioning this, this is a major, major change that requires questions. In my opinion, his personal attacks means Bloomberg takes this plan personally which affirms my belief that it is more for his legacy and less for the good of the city (even if it may have some beneficial effects for the city).