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	<title>Comments on: Bike Network 2.0</title>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-141021</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I understand it, it is a tedious manual process to log the best routes to Google Map and might be better achieved using the Verizon GPS &quot;Bones in Motion&quot; (BIM) application (or something similar) which I believe automatically logs the route on a map for future reference and upload to a database application like New York City&#039;s &quot;Bike the City&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I understand it, it is a tedious manual process to log the best routes to Google Map and might be better achieved using the Verizon GPS "Bones in Motion" (BIM) application (or something similar) which I believe automatically logs the route on a map for future reference and upload to a database application like New York City's "Bike the City".</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-49090</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad, Sad. Can we just stay on discussing biking, on not whether someone is or not is a spandex (or other type) of bicyclist. Really not important. More important:
Where is the forum where you would add routes to the network. Also, does someone know how best to cycle from Boston Downton to Cambridge, area Union Sq? It seems pretty tough to get across the river. Any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad, Sad. Can we just stay on discussing biking, on not whether someone is or not is a spandex (or other type) of bicyclist. Really not important. More important:<br />
Where is the forum where you would add routes to the network. Also, does someone know how best to cycle from Boston Downton to Cambridge, area Union Sq? It seems pretty tough to get across the river. Any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: BBooper</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-48442</link>
		<dc:creator>BBooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give me a break people! Don&#039;t you know that Nicole Freedman is an outstnading coach, is a professional cyclist, 2 -time U. S. National Champion, member of the U.S. Olympic Road Team and the founder of the Ford-Basis Women&#039;s Cycling Team??? Geeze.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give me a break people! Don't you know that Nicole Freedman is an outstnading coach, is a professional cyclist, 2 -time U. S. National Champion, member of the U.S. Olympic Road Team and the founder of the Ford-Basis Women's Cycling Team??? Geeze.</p>
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		<title>By: gwadzilla</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-45888</link>
		<dc:creator>gwadzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because she wears spandex does not discount her as a spandex cyclist

should she of had a costume designer dress her as an urban hipster
all the way down to fake tattoos and fake piercings

now that I think about it...
why is she wearing spandex
is she a former racer?
is she a racer?
does she normally ride/train in that gear?
or is it corporate sponsorship?

I do not know

but I do know that the technology sounded cool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because she wears spandex does not discount her as a spandex cyclist</p>
<p>should she of had a costume designer dress her as an urban hipster<br />
all the way down to fake tattoos and fake piercings</p>
<p>now that I think about it...<br />
why is she wearing spandex<br />
is she a former racer?<br />
is she a racer?<br />
does she normally ride/train in that gear?<br />
or is it corporate sponsorship?</p>
<p>I do not know</p>
<p>but I do know that the technology sounded cool</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-45804</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In many circles of Boston Bike Kremlinologists, Paul&#039;s legitimacy has been challenged, similar to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_Dmitriy_I&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the False Dmitry&lt;/a&gt;, so according to them he does not count as a Czar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In many circles of Boston Bike Kremlinologists, Paul's legitimacy has been challenged, similar to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_Dmitriy_I" rel="nofollow">the False Dmitry</a>, so according to them he does not count as a Czar.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin von Wyss</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-45798</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin von Wyss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Freedman can&#039;t be Boston&#039;s first Bike Czar because Paul Schimek, planner in the city&#039;s transportation department, held that title in about 2003 or 2004.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Freedman can't be Boston's first Bike Czar because Paul Schimek, planner in the city's transportation department, held that title in about 2003 or 2004.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-45742</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before anyone else goes off and criticizes the spandex photo, do we actually know who supplied it and who chose it? That is to say, is this a photo she supplied for a bicycle planning-related purpose (unlikely I think) or is this (more likely) a stock photo of her from her racing days that someone else chose to make use of? If the latter it seems a bit much to criticize Ms. Freedman as #5, #8 and #9 did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before anyone else goes off and criticizes the spandex photo, do we actually know who supplied it and who chose it? That is to say, is this a photo she supplied for a bicycle planning-related purpose (unlikely I think) or is this (more likely) a stock photo of her from her racing days that someone else chose to make use of? If the latter it seems a bit much to criticize Ms. Freedman as #5, #8 and #9 did.</p>
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		<title>By: bikerguy</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-45698</link>
		<dc:creator>bikerguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here a note from an engineer and a biker.  Just because you have the routes taken by people, you don&#039;t have the &quot;optimal&quot; routes.  You have the optimal routes given the current conditions.  I hope that there will also be some global thinking about what would be best for bikers.  Identifying feeder routes and trunk lines are classic traffic engineering, and these concepts likely work for bikers as well.  Also, please think about the snow and ice issue.  Here in Madison, WI we have had a long hard winter.  My routes have changed because my favorite back streets are still coated with ice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here a note from an engineer and a biker.  Just because you have the routes taken by people, you don't have the "optimal" routes.  You have the optimal routes given the current conditions.  I hope that there will also be some global thinking about what would be best for bikers.  Identifying feeder routes and trunk lines are classic traffic engineering, and these concepts likely work for bikers as well.  Also, please think about the snow and ice issue.  Here in Madison, WI we have had a long hard winter.  My routes have changed because my favorite back streets are still coated with ice.</p>
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		<title>By: chandru</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-45618</link>
		<dc:creator>chandru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely agree about the spandex, I doubt many non-cyclists could relate to her and her ads.

Bikes...if you check on any European website, there are many, many &quot;normal looking&quot; cycles. Most have internal hub gears instead of finicky dérailleurs, have mudguards, lights and bell. Incidentally, my bike from 10 years ago is a Gary Fisher, with 7spd Shimano hub gears, a model they produced for one year and discontinued.

But then, cyclists in Europe treat it as a normative activity. We need to have more of that here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely agree about the spandex, I doubt many non-cyclists could relate to her and her ads.</p>
<p>Bikes...if you check on any European website, there are many, many "normal looking" cycles. Most have internal hub gears instead of finicky dérailleurs, have mudguards, lights and bell. Incidentally, my bike from 10 years ago is a Gary Fisher, with 7spd Shimano hub gears, a model they produced for one year and discontinued.</p>
<p>But then, cyclists in Europe treat it as a normative activity. We need to have more of that here.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy B from Jersey</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-45590</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy B from Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but I gotta&#039; agree with #5.  I think many cyclists including those in bicycle planning, get too bogged down by their gear-head perspectives that they become irrelevant to the cycling &quot;curious but hesitant&quot; masses.

Just look at the US bike industry.  Besides Joe Breeze, no other US bike company is building a bike that potentially appeals to the masses.  Besides the enthusiast bikes they produce, the &quot;comfort&quot; and other bikes they produce are mostly impractical toys.

There is hope however!  I just today saw that Gary Fischer is introducing a line of very practical, traditional, European influenced town bikes, complete with factory fenders and chainguards!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm sorry but I gotta' agree with #5.  I think many cyclists including those in bicycle planning, get too bogged down by their gear-head perspectives that they become irrelevant to the cycling "curious but hesitant" masses.</p>
<p>Just look at the US bike industry.  Besides Joe Breeze, no other US bike company is building a bike that potentially appeals to the masses.  Besides the enthusiast bikes they produce, the "comfort" and other bikes they produce are mostly impractical toys.</p>
<p>There is hope however!  I just today saw that Gary Fischer is introducing a line of very practical, traditional, European influenced town bikes, complete with factory fenders and chainguards!</p>
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		<title>By: pfs</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-45588</link>
		<dc:creator>pfs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lookup locations with nearby wiki&#039;s worldwide on satellitepictures easy by address? 
http://www.picsfromspace.nl
A combination of Googlemaps mashup, Wikipedia information and thirdparty addressdata with address suggestion.

Also take a look at trafficjamlocations in the Netherlands with thier average length in graphics?
http://www.traffic2graphics.nl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lookup locations with nearby wiki's worldwide on satellitepictures easy by address?<br />
<a href="http://www.picsfromspace.nl" rel="nofollow">http://www.picsfromspace.nl</a><br />
A combination of Googlemaps mashup, Wikipedia information and thirdparty addressdata with address suggestion.</p>
<p>Also take a look at trafficjamlocations in the Netherlands with thier average length in graphics?<br />
<a href="http://www.traffic2graphics.nl" rel="nofollow">http://www.traffic2graphics.nl</a></p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-45559</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sometimes feel that way, Anon, but you missed the part where Freedman was a professional racer:

http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?t=61685</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sometimes feel that way, Anon, but you missed the part where Freedman was a professional racer:</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?t=61685" rel="nofollow">http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?t=61685</a></p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-45557</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why must all these people wear spandex for their photos? Don&#039;t humans bike too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why must all these people wear spandex for their photos? Don't humans bike too?</p>
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		<title>By: Ace</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-45556</link>
		<dc:creator>Ace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they&#039;ll stone you when you&#039;re riding on your bike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they'll stone you when you're riding on your bike</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-45554</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bike Czar...sponsored by FORD? Funny how advertising is everywhere....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bike Czar...sponsored by FORD? Funny how advertising is everywhere....</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Fischer</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-45550</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like it is http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;hl=en&amp;msa=0&amp;msid=106008521122548670202.000444b700b33319480d0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like it is <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;hl=en&amp;msa=0&amp;msid=106008521122548670202.000444b700b33319480d0" rel="nofollow">http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;hl=en&amp;msa=0&amp;msid=106008521122548670202.000444b700b33319480d0</a></p>
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		<title>By: franklin</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/bike-network-20/comment-page-1/#comment-45535</link>
		<dc:creator>franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about a link to the google map?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about a link to the google map?</p>
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