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	<title>Comments on: All Eyes on Portland at Bike Summit</title>
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		<title>By: Chuck King</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-64356</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of us from other states, who already consider Portland &quot;cycling heaven,&quot; it is encouraging to see that the city is not content to just be at the top, but to press on even farther. Thank you! I am on my way again this summer, to enjoy cycling Portland streets and environs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of us from other states, who already consider Portland "cycling heaven," it is encouraging to see that the city is not content to just be at the top, but to press on even farther. Thank you! I am on my way again this summer, to enjoy cycling Portland streets and environs.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Layman</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-48622</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Layman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Generally, the rule of thumb (see Martin Wachs&#039; work, he has a paper published by Brookings, mentioned in a Neal Peirce column in 2003) is that 50% of the cost of roads comes from general funds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally, the rule of thumb (see Martin Wachs' work, he has a paper published by Brookings, mentioned in a Neal Peirce column in 2003) is that 50% of the cost of roads comes from general funds.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-48597</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I moved to Portland seven years ago specifically because it was becoming a great city for biking.  My car broke down on during my cross-country move and, while it was horrible in the moment, it ended up being the best thing that ever happened to me.  The entire six years I lived there, before moving to NYC, I rode a bike as my primary form of transportation and used transit too.  I was lucky to have had the opportunity to work in the City&#039;s Office of Transportation on some bike boulevard related projects.  Bike boulevards really are the way to go, and I remember nightly rides with friends, riding together from place to place, with relatively little fear of being hit by cars, just enjoying life and the breeze through our helmets.  Sometimes I almost want to move back, just because biking there was so much easier than it is in NYC, but it was time for a change.  Although I don&#039;t feel Portland&#039;s public transit is as worthy of the national praise it&#039;s been showered with, I do feel that its bike infrastructure implementation is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved to Portland seven years ago specifically because it was becoming a great city for biking.  My car broke down on during my cross-country move and, while it was horrible in the moment, it ended up being the best thing that ever happened to me.  The entire six years I lived there, before moving to NYC, I rode a bike as my primary form of transportation and used transit too.  I was lucky to have had the opportunity to work in the City's Office of Transportation on some bike boulevard related projects.  Bike boulevards really are the way to go, and I remember nightly rides with friends, riding together from place to place, with relatively little fear of being hit by cars, just enjoying life and the breeze through our helmets.  Sometimes I almost want to move back, just because biking there was so much easier than it is in NYC, but it was time for a change.  Although I don't feel Portland's public transit is as worthy of the national praise it's been showered with, I do feel that its bike infrastructure implementation is.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Barnett</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-48541</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would the same apply to pedestrians—must we all display a large identification plate when we go out in public, just in case we break some law and need to be reported?

There is a very compelling reason cars require registration, insurance, and licensing: they grossly augment mortal danger to others. While bicycles and air conditioners falling out of windows kill on occasion, nothing comes close to the over 40,000 yearly American deaths caused by the automobile. Our procedures to mitigate that risk have proven sadly inadequate, but they are in fact necessary in a way that they are not for bicycles. It&#039;s not just a case of annoying costs and paperwork that everyone should have to deal with for some imagined principle of equal suffering, there&#039;s a lot more at stake. And from a greater good perspective, adding unnecessary hurdles to &quot;transportation&quot; bicycling (I don&#039;t know how this would be distinguished from recreational use) is only going to discourage cycling, keep potential cyclists in their cars, and perversely increase the transportation death toll. It&#039;s a big net loss for safety and public health.

Also: since when can you take pictures of cars running stop signs, red lights, and doing other illegal stuff and have the driver face consequences? As a New Yorker witnessing regular traffic violations that put me in grave danger, I would love to be able to just report dangerous drivers and have them be penalized. But if the police are not around (or inclined to act), motorists are just as much &quot;immune to all&quot; as bicyclists. As a pedestrian, I&#039;m unfortunately not immune to cars crashing into me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would the same apply to pedestrians—must we all display a large identification plate when we go out in public, just in case we break some law and need to be reported?</p>
<p>There is a very compelling reason cars require registration, insurance, and licensing: they grossly augment mortal danger to others. While bicycles and air conditioners falling out of windows kill on occasion, nothing comes close to the over 40,000 yearly American deaths caused by the automobile. Our procedures to mitigate that risk have proven sadly inadequate, but they are in fact necessary in a way that they are not for bicycles. It's not just a case of annoying costs and paperwork that everyone should have to deal with for some imagined principle of equal suffering, there's a lot more at stake. And from a greater good perspective, adding unnecessary hurdles to "transportation" bicycling (I don't know how this would be distinguished from recreational use) is only going to discourage cycling, keep potential cyclists in their cars, and perversely increase the transportation death toll. It's a big net loss for safety and public health.</p>
<p>Also: since when can you take pictures of cars running stop signs, red lights, and doing other illegal stuff and have the driver face consequences? As a New Yorker witnessing regular traffic violations that put me in grave danger, I would love to be able to just report dangerous drivers and have them be penalized. But if the police are not around (or inclined to act), motorists are just as much "immune to all" as bicyclists. As a pedestrian, I'm unfortunately not immune to cars crashing into me.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too live in portland and am not a troll or spammer or w/e, but i agree that bicycles used as a main mode of transportation should be licensed and i have a different reason as to why as opposed to some of those others (which i agree and disagree with). 
If a person (driver, pedestrian, cyclist, whoever) sees a violation of a car or has a run in with a car, they can take a picture of the car/license plate and have it sent into the police for further disciplinary action. I constantly see bikes run stop signs, red lights, etc and there is nothing that can be done cuz they have no identification attached so they are immune to it all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too live in portland and am not a troll or spammer or w/e, but i agree that bicycles used as a main mode of transportation should be licensed and i have a different reason as to why as opposed to some of those others (which i agree and disagree with).<br />
If a person (driver, pedestrian, cyclist, whoever) sees a violation of a car or has a run in with a car, they can take a picture of the car/license plate and have it sent into the police for further disciplinary action. I constantly see bikes run stop signs, red lights, etc and there is nothing that can be done cuz they have no identification attached so they are immune to it all</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-45773</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naked Bike Ride Interrupted By Police

EUGENE, Ore. - Roughly 100 bicyclists either naked or almost naked rode through the streets of Eugene this weekend in an event that turned confrontational.


The riders cheered, chanted and stopped traffic as they pedaled through the streets. But police officers stopped naked cyclists several times for failing to obey traffic laws and ordered some women to put tops on.
At one point, the officers tried to make arrests. But as the crowd grew angry, they decided to let the riders continue rather than risk a potentially dangerous situation.
Naked bike rides have been staged in dozens of cities around the world in recent years, including Portland.


The purpose is to protest global oil dependency and celebrate cycling and the human body.


3/10/2008


http://www.koin.com/Global/story.asp?S=7991982



Police tried to do the right thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naked Bike Ride Interrupted By Police</p>
<p>EUGENE, Ore. - Roughly 100 bicyclists either naked or almost naked rode through the streets of Eugene this weekend in an event that turned confrontational.</p>
<p>The riders cheered, chanted and stopped traffic as they pedaled through the streets. But police officers stopped naked cyclists several times for failing to obey traffic laws and ordered some women to put tops on.<br />
At one point, the officers tried to make arrests. But as the crowd grew angry, they decided to let the riders continue rather than risk a potentially dangerous situation.<br />
Naked bike rides have been staged in dozens of cities around the world in recent years, including Portland.</p>
<p>The purpose is to protest global oil dependency and celebrate cycling and the human body.</p>
<p>3/10/2008</p>
<p><a href="http://www.koin.com/Global/story.asp?S=7991982" rel="nofollow">http://www.koin.com/Global/story.asp?S=7991982</a></p>
<p>Police tried to do the right thing</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-45738</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see cal has some loose spokes. He has grouped everyone with an opinion different than himself as one person.  There just cant be more than one person in his little world with an opinion different than himself. 

I bet he doesnt wear a bike helment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see cal has some loose spokes. He has grouped everyone with an opinion different than himself as one person.  There just cant be more than one person in his little world with an opinion different than himself. </p>
<p>I bet he doesnt wear a bike helment.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sheen</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-45736</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Sheen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is cycling cal?  The authority? Anyone not on his planet is wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is cycling cal?  The authority? Anyone not on his planet is wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-45734</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t speak for Lisa, Elly, Bob or Paddy, but I&#039;m a real person, and I&#039;m not Paddy.  I posted all of the posts so far on this thread that have my name, and I&#039;m willing to confirm it by any means.

I don&#039;t consider myself a troll, but trolling is all really a matter of opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can't speak for Lisa, Elly, Bob or Paddy, but I'm a real person, and I'm not Paddy.  I posted all of the posts so far on this thread that have my name, and I'm willing to confirm it by any means.</p>
<p>I don't consider myself a troll, but trolling is all really a matter of opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: CyclingCal</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-45733</link>
		<dc:creator>CyclingCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa, Bob, etc...

It&#039;s time to do some reading, and educate &quot;yourselves.&quot;

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/331734_firstperson17.html

www.vtpi.org/whoserd.pdf

http://pubs.its.ucdavis.edu/publication_detail.php?id=1088

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/331734_firstperson17.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa, Bob, etc...</p>
<p>It's time to do some reading, and educate "yourselves."</p>
<p><a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/331734_firstperson17.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/331734_firstperson17.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.vtpi.org/whoserd.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.vtpi.org/whoserd.pdf</a></p>
<p><a href="http://pubs.its.ucdavis.edu/publication_detail.php?id=1088" rel="nofollow">http://pubs.its.ucdavis.edu/publication_detail.php?id=1088</a></p>
<p><a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/331734_firstperson17.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/331734_firstperson17.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: CyclingCal</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-45732</link>
		<dc:creator>CyclingCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elly, Lisa, BobSheen And Angus are all the same person as Paddy McGuire above. It&#039;s a troll artist who posts most of the time at OregonLive.com. He has so many monikers that no one can keep track.

Here is a sampling of them:

JuanJalepeno, BusMallBob, blondbarking, MrBergis, TedKSucks, rotaxmax126, MEXCIANPride, TwoBuckChuck, Dually, TryingSkills, prostatepete, bipolarbear, BobbinWeaver, PaulLip, wereakingball, bedfordfalls, PuTtyIsDeAD, PDXDriver, COregon, JoeCOOL, LordofChaos, PaddyMcGuire, OregonTiger, GoDucks, TypicalJoe, Interest55, and on and on...

Ignore the troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elly, Lisa, BobSheen And Angus are all the same person as Paddy McGuire above. It's a troll artist who posts most of the time at OregonLive.com. He has so many monikers that no one can keep track.</p>
<p>Here is a sampling of them:</p>
<p>JuanJalepeno, BusMallBob, blondbarking, MrBergis, TedKSucks, rotaxmax126, MEXCIANPride, TwoBuckChuck, Dually, TryingSkills, prostatepete, bipolarbear, BobbinWeaver, PaulLip, wereakingball, bedfordfalls, PuTtyIsDeAD, PDXDriver, COregon, JoeCOOL, LordofChaos, PaddyMcGuire, OregonTiger, GoDucks, TypicalJoe, Interest55, and on and on...</p>
<p>Ignore the troll.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-45707</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 04:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well!  Thanks for clearing that up, Lisa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well!  Thanks for clearing that up, Lisa.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sheen</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-45705</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Sheen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 04:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see bret back up his post with facts and the links to supporting such facts.  At this point all he has done is blow smoke into the wind.  What a joke.  And hey Elly what weed you smoking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see bret back up his post with facts and the links to supporting such facts.  At this point all he has done is blow smoke into the wind.  What a joke.  And hey Elly what weed you smoking?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-45704</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>False : the money comes from the general fund

False : subsidizing the motoring population

False: much road spending is for freeways

False: maintaining roads that are worn down by multi-ton vehicles

False:  licensed to drive, and insured (even on our bikes) when we own a motor vehicle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>False : the money comes from the general fund</p>
<p>False : subsidizing the motoring population</p>
<p>False: much road spending is for freeways</p>
<p>False: maintaining roads that are worn down by multi-ton vehicles</p>
<p>False:  licensed to drive, and insured (even on our bikes) when we own a motor vehicle.</p>
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		<title>By: Elly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-45701</link>
		<dc:creator>Elly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting to watch the spread of the myth that &quot;cyclists don&#039;t pay their fair share.&quot; I can sort of see why it&#039;s an appealing argument but it is 100% false.  

Part of road maintenance and building does indeed come from gas taxes and registration fees, but building and repairing roads is expensive, so quite a bit of the money comes from the general fund, which in Portland cyclists pay into through income and property taxes just like everyone else. I&#039;ve seen the numbers run a few ways, and any way you add it up, cyclists are actually subsidizing the motoring population. That&#039;s right. We are paying, literally, for people to drive.


This is not even taking into account the fact that much road spending is for freeways which cyclists don&#039;t directly use (though yes we rely on freight as much as anyone) and for maintaining roads that are worn down by multi-ton vehicles (ie, even the smallest car). And that&#039;s also not getting into the many externalities of widespread automobile use such as the cost of caring for an increasingly obese population, the lung problems caused by living (especially as kids) near major roads and freeways, and the high cost car crashes in courts and hospitals and general productivity.

The thinly veiled implication in these &quot;don&#039;t pay their way&quot; arguments is that cyclists don&#039;t have jobs, don&#039;t pay taxes, aren&#039;t licensed to drive, and aren&#039;t insured (even on our bikes) when we own a motor vehicle. This implication is in direct contradiction to another common argument that cycling is an elite luxury that most people can&#039;t afford to mess around with.

And I could go on. The argument that cyclists don&#039;t pay their way is just as hackneyed as the one that we cause pollution by slowing down traffic. Though the connection of cycling with unshaven armpits is new to me. Congrats, Lisa, for reminding us that cycling has become a civil rights issue whether we&#039;re seeking that or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's interesting to watch the spread of the myth that "cyclists don't pay their fair share." I can sort of see why it's an appealing argument but it is 100% false.  </p>
<p>Part of road maintenance and building does indeed come from gas taxes and registration fees, but building and repairing roads is expensive, so quite a bit of the money comes from the general fund, which in Portland cyclists pay into through income and property taxes just like everyone else. I've seen the numbers run a few ways, and any way you add it up, cyclists are actually subsidizing the motoring population. That's right. We are paying, literally, for people to drive.</p>
<p>This is not even taking into account the fact that much road spending is for freeways which cyclists don't directly use (though yes we rely on freight as much as anyone) and for maintaining roads that are worn down by multi-ton vehicles (ie, even the smallest car). And that's also not getting into the many externalities of widespread automobile use such as the cost of caring for an increasingly obese population, the lung problems caused by living (especially as kids) near major roads and freeways, and the high cost car crashes in courts and hospitals and general productivity.</p>
<p>The thinly veiled implication in these "don't pay their way" arguments is that cyclists don't have jobs, don't pay taxes, aren't licensed to drive, and aren't insured (even on our bikes) when we own a motor vehicle. This implication is in direct contradiction to another common argument that cycling is an elite luxury that most people can't afford to mess around with.</p>
<p>And I could go on. The argument that cyclists don't pay their way is just as hackneyed as the one that we cause pollution by slowing down traffic. Though the connection of cycling with unshaven armpits is new to me. Congrats, Lisa, for reminding us that cycling has become a civil rights issue whether we're seeking that or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Portland, and find the responses above both operating at the extremes of reality. Yes, Portland is very encouraging to bike transportation, and at the same time, very discouraging to motorized transportation. Portland motorists, through registration and fuel taxes, pay (unless it is siphoned away for other projects) to maintain the roadways. Bicyclists use these same roadways, but do not pay the upkeep. Bicycle operators, to pay thier &quot;fair share&quot;, should be licensed and registered the same as motorists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Portland, and find the responses above both operating at the extremes of reality. Yes, Portland is very encouraging to bike transportation, and at the same time, very discouraging to motorized transportation. Portland motorists, through registration and fuel taxes, pay (unless it is siphoned away for other projects) to maintain the roadways. Bicyclists use these same roadways, but do not pay the upkeep. Bicycle operators, to pay thier "fair share", should be licensed and registered the same as motorists.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-45670</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paddy you are so right.  


I have never in my life read, heard such whining and excuses that the bicyclists give for not paying their fair share or riding safely.  And when they flub up run a stop, fail to signal and get killed it’s always the motorists fault even when one doest exist they turn and start pointing fingers.  “The curb jumped out and got me.  Move the curb”.  And the stupid bicyclists feel they can flood the streets with more and more of their unlicensed uninsured helmetless unsafe no brakes, lights or safety devises on the streets and then ask for safer street improvements for them to ride.  If streets are safe enough to attract more riders then why are we asking the legally licensed and insured motorists to fund their improvements?  

With a bike rack ten feet outside our Portland downtown office door why does the dripping wet foul smelling forgot to shave my pits this past decade messenger girl insist she must bring her bike into the building and onto the elevator several times a day when signs clearly posted “no bikes allowed in building”.  Clearly a sign of no respect for others.  Maybe we should change the sign to read “no dogs allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paddy you are so right.  </p>
<p>I have never in my life read, heard such whining and excuses that the bicyclists give for not paying their fair share or riding safely.  And when they flub up run a stop, fail to signal and get killed it’s always the motorists fault even when one doest exist they turn and start pointing fingers.  “The curb jumped out and got me.  Move the curb”.  And the stupid bicyclists feel they can flood the streets with more and more of their unlicensed uninsured helmetless unsafe no brakes, lights or safety devises on the streets and then ask for safer street improvements for them to ride.  If streets are safe enough to attract more riders then why are we asking the legally licensed and insured motorists to fund their improvements?  </p>
<p>With a bike rack ten feet outside our Portland downtown office door why does the dripping wet foul smelling forgot to shave my pits this past decade messenger girl insist she must bring her bike into the building and onto the elevator several times a day when signs clearly posted “no bikes allowed in building”.  Clearly a sign of no respect for others.  Maybe we should change the sign to read “no dogs allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: CyclingCal</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-45669</link>
		<dc:creator>CyclingCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the article is very accurate. PaddyMcGuire is a spam artist, who spends every waking hour posting at OregonLive.com&#039;s forums under dozens of monikers. He is troll. That is his life&#039;s mission. Don&#039;t worry about him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the article is very accurate. PaddyMcGuire is a spam artist, who spends every waking hour posting at OregonLive.com's forums under dozens of monikers. He is troll. That is his life's mission. Don't worry about him.</p>
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		<title>By: john deere</title>
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		<dc:creator>john deere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paddy,
Cyclists in fact do pay our way.  Don&#039;t kid yourself into thinking that license and registration fees even begin to pay for the costs of our roads, and all the other social costs of driving.  I pay income and sales taxes, and these revenues pay for our roads.  I&#039;m also a licensed driver.  So you bet your buns I pay my way as a cyclist.

Now Paddy, since you are accusing cyclists of not paying, I&#039;m going to assume you are a driver, and your driving is spewing co2 and various pollutants into the air.  Can you please email me a copy of the receipt where you paid the environmental and health costs to your city, country, and planet, that resulted from your driving.  Please include an itemized receipt for health care costs borne by others as a result of your driving.    And since my taxes are paying for these various costs (health care, environmental protection, etc), can you please send me a check as a tax refund for problems I&#039;m currently not contributing to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paddy,<br />
Cyclists in fact do pay our way.  Don't kid yourself into thinking that license and registration fees even begin to pay for the costs of our roads, and all the other social costs of driving.  I pay income and sales taxes, and these revenues pay for our roads.  I'm also a licensed driver.  So you bet your buns I pay my way as a cyclist.</p>
<p>Now Paddy, since you are accusing cyclists of not paying, I'm going to assume you are a driver, and your driving is spewing co2 and various pollutants into the air.  Can you please email me a copy of the receipt where you paid the environmental and health costs to your city, country, and planet, that resulted from your driving.  Please include an itemized receipt for health care costs borne by others as a result of your driving.    And since my taxes are paying for these various costs (health care, environmental protection, etc), can you please send me a check as a tax refund for problems I'm currently not contributing to.</p>
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		<title>By: Moser</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/03/06/all-eyes-on-portland-at-bike-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-45643</link>
		<dc:creator>Moser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Angus - I&#039;ve ridden one of these in Berkeley in fact, w/out getting that it was a bike boulevard (thought it was just cool traffic calming).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Angus - I've ridden one of these in Berkeley in fact, w/out getting that it was a bike boulevard (thought it was just cool traffic calming).</p>
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