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	<title>Comments on: Hakeem Jeffries Stands With Westchester on Congestion Pricing</title>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Hyman</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45563</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Hyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is probably a &quot;dead&quot; thread two days after the original post, but I saw Jeffries at a civic event this morning and, apropos of nothing, he called congestion pricing a &#039;tax on working people.&#039;  And the working people that he was speaking to, nodded their heads.  Okay, here&#039;s what it was apropos of: he was pandering.

But what a policy nightmare...a politician who panders to people who don&#039;t realize that what they &quot;want&quot; probably isn&#039;t what they want at all.  As I looked around the room, I asked myself, &#039;how many times a year do any of these people actually drive into Manhattan?&#039;  Why would they ever oppose congestion pricing?  But evidently they do, and Jeffries knows it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is probably a &#8220;dead&#8221; thread two days after the original post, but I saw Jeffries at a civic event this morning and, apropos of nothing, he called congestion pricing a &#8216;tax on working people.&#8217;  And the working people that he was speaking to, nodded their heads.  Okay, here&#8217;s what it was apropos of: he was pandering.</p>
<p>But what a policy nightmare&#8230;a politician who panders to people who don&#8217;t realize that what they &#8220;want&#8221; probably isn&#8217;t what they want at all.  As I looked around the room, I asked myself, &#8216;how many times a year do any of these people actually drive into Manhattan?&#8217;  Why would they ever oppose congestion pricing?  But evidently they do, and Jeffries knows it.</p>
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		<title>By: JF</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45512</link>
		<dc:creator>JF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.
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		<title>By: brooklyn and i</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45482</link>
		<dc:creator>brooklyn and i</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will the Brooklyn section from all the Bridges ( Brooklyn Bridge- williamsburg Bridge ) neighborhood&#039;s bee the&quot; park and ride &quot; for all long island cars 
it is very hard to find a normal parking space in Brooklyn. what dangress effect it will be to the the local residential environmental and business?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will the Brooklyn section from all the Bridges ( Brooklyn Bridge- williamsburg Bridge ) neighborhood&#8217;s bee the&#8221; park and ride &#8221; for all long island cars<br />
it is very hard to find a normal parking space in Brooklyn. what dangress effect it will be to the the local residential environmental and business?</p>
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		<title>By: Paco</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45352</link>
		<dc:creator>Paco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh... check out crashstat.org  it&#039;ll show you all the reported pedestrian and cycling accidents and fatalities on the full nyc map.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh&#8230; check out crashstat.org  it&#8217;ll show you all the reported pedestrian and cycling accidents and fatalities on the full nyc map.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, in the time it took me to write that comment you already got a response AND thanked the guy.  Oh well :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, in the time it took me to write that comment you already got a response AND thanked the guy.  Oh well <img src='http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adam K</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45349</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh - did you try Transportation Alternatives&#039; CrashStat website?  Google it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh &#8211; did you try Transportation Alternatives&#8217; CrashStat website?  Google it</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45343</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great, Will.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great, Will.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45341</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, try http://www.crashstat.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, try <a href="http://www.crashstat.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crashstat.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45335</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t finish my letter to Jeffries over the weekend but I&#039;m working on it now.  Does anyone know whether there&#039;s anyplace I can find information on pedestrian fatalities grouped geographically?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t finish my letter to Jeffries over the weekend but I&#8217;m working on it now.  Does anyone know whether there&#8217;s anyplace I can find information on pedestrian fatalities grouped geographically?</p>
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		<title>By: we can do better</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45333</link>
		<dc:creator>we can do better</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you live in Jeffries district, let him know how you feel. jefferiesh@assembly.state.ny.us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you live in Jeffries district, let him know how you feel. <a href="mailto:jefferiesh@assembly.state.ny.us">jefferiesh@assembly.state.ny.us</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45330</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still racking my brains about how Jeffries came to champion the richest 2% of his constituents at the expense of the poorer majority.  Here&#039;s all I could come up with:

http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2008/02/hakeem-jeffries-man-of-people.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still racking my brains about how Jeffries came to champion the richest 2% of his constituents at the expense of the poorer majority.  Here&#8217;s all I could come up with:</p>
<p><a href="http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2008/02/hakeem-jeffries-man-of-people.html" rel="nofollow">http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2008/02/hakeem-jeffries-man-of-people.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: cochon</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45328</link>
		<dc:creator>cochon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 05:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://thecityfix.com/congestion-pricing-in-london-improves-public-health-study-finds/

opposing politicans definitely don&#039;t have an eye on their futures. this is great ammo for future opposing candidates. i can see the ad now - some dude with an annoying voice saying &quot;so and so voted against congestion pricing, which would have made you healthier&quot;, with pictures of toddlers eating ice cream and grandma chilling on her rascal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thecityfix.com/congestion-pricing-in-london-improves-public-health-study-finds/" rel="nofollow">http://thecityfix.com/congestion-pricing-in-london-improves-public-health-study-finds/</a></p>
<p>opposing politicans definitely don&#8217;t have an eye on their futures. this is great ammo for future opposing candidates. i can see the ad now &#8211; some dude with an annoying voice saying &#8220;so and so voted against congestion pricing, which would have made you healthier&#8221;, with pictures of toddlers eating ice cream and grandma chilling on her rascal.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooklynite</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45326</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooklynite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not naive. You&#039;re just zeroing in on the fact that Richard Brodsky has little to no interest in reducing traffic congestion and automobile dependence in New York City. He recognizes that he can&#039;t just kill congestion pricing outright. He needs to put forward some alternative ideas. He put forward the taxi idea because he thinks it highlights the class disparity issue. He&#039;s saying: Let&#039;s make rich people pay the congestion money. NYC taxi are just filled with rich people, right? In Richard&#039;s world, the single-passenger motor vehicles that clog our streets and make life increasingly hellish in our neighborhoods are all filled with hardworking middle class family men and women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not naive. You&#8217;re just zeroing in on the fact that Richard Brodsky has little to no interest in reducing traffic congestion and automobile dependence in New York City. He recognizes that he can&#8217;t just kill congestion pricing outright. He needs to put forward some alternative ideas. He put forward the taxi idea because he thinks it highlights the class disparity issue. He&#8217;s saying: Let&#8217;s make rich people pay the congestion money. NYC taxi are just filled with rich people, right? In Richard&#8217;s world, the single-passenger motor vehicles that clog our streets and make life increasingly hellish in our neighborhoods are all filled with hardworking middle class family men and women.</p>
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		<title>By: Somewhat Naive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Somewhat Naive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 23:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could someone explain how a huge taxi tax reduces traffic? Charging will reduce demand. This reduced demand will take money away from drivers and owners. Since the price of the taxi medallion is a fixed cost, and the drivers still need to make a living, isn&#039;t this just more pressure to keep more medallions on the road? Seerately, on the politics front, can anyone with a straight face say medallion owners (people used to spreading cash around City Council)would stand for this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could someone explain how a huge taxi tax reduces traffic? Charging will reduce demand. This reduced demand will take money away from drivers and owners. Since the price of the taxi medallion is a fixed cost, and the drivers still need to make a living, isn&#8217;t this just more pressure to keep more medallions on the road? Seerately, on the politics front, can anyone with a straight face say medallion owners (people used to spreading cash around City Council)would stand for this?</p>
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		<title>By: bb</title>
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		<dc:creator>bb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Jeffries district and I&#039;d like to know on whose behalf he&#039;s fighting.  I don&#039;t recall hearing of his efforts to reach out to constituents to find out what they think or how they&#039;d be affected.  He must be pretty tight with that 2.2% that drive to work in the zone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Jeffries district and I&#8217;d like to know on whose behalf he&#8217;s fighting.  I don&#8217;t recall hearing of his efforts to reach out to constituents to find out what they think or how they&#8217;d be affected.  He must be pretty tight with that 2.2% that drive to work in the zone.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I never thought I&#039;d be missing Roger Green.  I guess Jeffries is pandering to white ethnics in Southern Brooklyn in case he ever runs for a borough-wide position.  Being an outsider, he probably doesn&#039;t realize these people are no more stupid or selfish than his own constituents, even if they sometimes have foolish loudmouths speaking on their behalf.

This reminds me of a time years ago when Bill Deblasio was afraid to support a car-free Prospect Park until he polled Windsor Terrace and found out that to his surprise, even the working classes enjoy their park without cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I never thought I&#8217;d be missing Roger Green.  I guess Jeffries is pandering to white ethnics in Southern Brooklyn in case he ever runs for a borough-wide position.  Being an outsider, he probably doesn&#8217;t realize these people are no more stupid or selfish than his own constituents, even if they sometimes have foolish loudmouths speaking on their behalf.</p>
<p>This reminds me of a time years ago when Bill Deblasio was afraid to support a car-free Prospect Park until he polled Windsor Terrace and found out that to his surprise, even the working classes enjoy their park without cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course you are right Carrie.  We use car service the same way.  Those who don&#039;t have cars are people who don&#039;t matter, to our pols.  I mean just look at them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you are right Carrie.  We use car service the same way.  Those who don&#8217;t have cars are people who don&#8217;t matter, to our pols.  I mean just look at them.</p>
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		<title>By: carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get why pols think sticking it to taxis is a good thing.     Those of us who don&#039;t own cars often rely on taxis when we&#039;re sick, have heavy items to transport, or other special needs. The fact that taxis are there and reasonably priced makes it easier to not own a car. The fact that I have to pay to take a cab makes me think seriously about whether that trip is necessary. Once you have a car, you might as well drive it as much as possible. In fact, without congestion pricing, it&#039;s in your financial interest to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get why pols think sticking it to taxis is a good thing.     Those of us who don&#8217;t own cars often rely on taxis when we&#8217;re sick, have heavy items to transport, or other special needs. The fact that taxis are there and reasonably priced makes it easier to not own a car. The fact that I have to pay to take a cab makes me think seriously about whether that trip is necessary. Once you have a car, you might as well drive it as much as possible. In fact, without congestion pricing, it&#8217;s in your financial interest to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lew, I&#039;m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you&#039;re sincere.  But do you really expect us to believe that Brodsky&#039;s alternate-day rationing plan was sincere?  It was obviously a &lt;i&gt;reductio ad absurdum&lt;/i&gt; ploy.  How gullible do you think we are?

Plus, a politician should expect to have his or her sincerity tested on everything.  To do otherwise would be political naïveté.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lew, I&#8217;m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you&#8217;re sincere.  But do you really expect us to believe that Brodsky&#8217;s alternate-day rationing plan was sincere?  It was obviously a <i>reductio ad absurdum</i> ploy.  How gullible do you think we are?</p>
<p>Plus, a politician should expect to have his or her sincerity tested on everything.  To do otherwise would be political naïveté.</p>
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		<title>By: jmc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lew, you support 6.50 taxis? Please go on the record supporting a taxi fare hike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lew, you support 6.50 taxis? Please go on the record supporting a taxi fare hike.</p>
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