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	<title>Comments on: Hakeem Jeffries Stands With Westchester on Congestion Pricing</title>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Hyman</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45563</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Hyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is probably a &quot;dead&quot; thread two days after the original post, but I saw Jeffries at a civic event this morning and, apropos of nothing, he called congestion pricing a &#039;tax on working people.&#039;  And the working people that he was speaking to, nodded their heads.  Okay, here&#039;s what it was apropos of: he was pandering.

But what a policy nightmare...a politician who panders to people who don&#039;t realize that what they &quot;want&quot; probably isn&#039;t what they want at all.  As I looked around the room, I asked myself, &#039;how many times a year do any of these people actually drive into Manhattan?&#039;  Why would they ever oppose congestion pricing?  But evidently they do, and Jeffries knows it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is probably a "dead" thread two days after the original post, but I saw Jeffries at a civic event this morning and, apropos of nothing, he called congestion pricing a 'tax on working people.'  And the working people that he was speaking to, nodded their heads.  Okay, here's what it was apropos of: he was pandering.</p>
<p>But what a policy nightmare...a politician who panders to people who don't realize that what they "want" probably isn't what they want at all.  As I looked around the room, I asked myself, 'how many times a year do any of these people actually drive into Manhattan?'  Why would they ever oppose congestion pricing?  But evidently they do, and Jeffries knows it.</p>
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		<title>By: JF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.
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		<title>By: brooklyn and i</title>
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		<dc:creator>brooklyn and i</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will the Brooklyn section from all the Bridges ( Brooklyn Bridge- williamsburg Bridge ) neighborhood&#039;s bee the&quot; park and ride &quot; for all long island cars 
it is very hard to find a normal parking space in Brooklyn. what dangress effect it will be to the the local residential environmental and business?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will the Brooklyn section from all the Bridges ( Brooklyn Bridge- williamsburg Bridge ) neighborhood's bee the" park and ride " for all long island cars<br />
it is very hard to find a normal parking space in Brooklyn. what dangress effect it will be to the the local residential environmental and business?</p>
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		<title>By: Paco</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45352</link>
		<dc:creator>Paco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh... check out crashstat.org  it&#039;ll show you all the reported pedestrian and cycling accidents and fatalities on the full nyc map.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh... check out crashstat.org  it'll show you all the reported pedestrian and cycling accidents and fatalities on the full nyc map.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, in the time it took me to write that comment you already got a response AND thanked the guy.  Oh well :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, in the time it took me to write that comment you already got a response AND thanked the guy.  Oh well <img src='http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adam K</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45349</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh - did you try Transportation Alternatives&#039; CrashStat website?  Google it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh - did you try Transportation Alternatives' CrashStat website?  Google it</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45343</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great, Will.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's great, Will.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45341</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, try http://www.crashstat.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, try <a href="http://www.crashstat.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crashstat.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t finish my letter to Jeffries over the weekend but I&#039;m working on it now.  Does anyone know whether there&#039;s anyplace I can find information on pedestrian fatalities grouped geographically?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn't finish my letter to Jeffries over the weekend but I'm working on it now.  Does anyone know whether there's anyplace I can find information on pedestrian fatalities grouped geographically?</p>
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		<title>By: we can do better</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45333</link>
		<dc:creator>we can do better</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you live in Jeffries district, let him know how you feel. jefferiesh@assembly.state.ny.us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you live in Jeffries district, let him know how you feel. <a href="mailto:jefferiesh@assembly.state.ny.us">jefferiesh@assembly.state.ny.us</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45330</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still racking my brains about how Jeffries came to champion the richest 2% of his constituents at the expense of the poorer majority.  Here&#039;s all I could come up with:

http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2008/02/hakeem-jeffries-man-of-people.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm still racking my brains about how Jeffries came to champion the richest 2% of his constituents at the expense of the poorer majority.  Here's all I could come up with:</p>
<p><a href="http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2008/02/hakeem-jeffries-man-of-people.html" rel="nofollow">http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2008/02/hakeem-jeffries-man-of-people.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: cochon</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/29/hakeem-jeffries-stands-with-westchester-on-congestion-pricing/comment-page-1/#comment-45328</link>
		<dc:creator>cochon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 05:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://thecityfix.com/congestion-pricing-in-london-improves-public-health-study-finds/

opposing politicans definitely don&#039;t have an eye on their futures. this is great ammo for future opposing candidates. i can see the ad now - some dude with an annoying voice saying &quot;so and so voted against congestion pricing, which would have made you healthier&quot;, with pictures of toddlers eating ice cream and grandma chilling on her rascal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thecityfix.com/congestion-pricing-in-london-improves-public-health-study-finds/" rel="nofollow">http://thecityfix.com/congestion-pricing-in-london-improves-public-health-study-finds/</a></p>
<p>opposing politicans definitely don't have an eye on their futures. this is great ammo for future opposing candidates. i can see the ad now - some dude with an annoying voice saying "so and so voted against congestion pricing, which would have made you healthier", with pictures of toddlers eating ice cream and grandma chilling on her rascal.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooklynite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooklynite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not naive. You&#039;re just zeroing in on the fact that Richard Brodsky has little to no interest in reducing traffic congestion and automobile dependence in New York City. He recognizes that he can&#039;t just kill congestion pricing outright. He needs to put forward some alternative ideas. He put forward the taxi idea because he thinks it highlights the class disparity issue. He&#039;s saying: Let&#039;s make rich people pay the congestion money. NYC taxi are just filled with rich people, right? In Richard&#039;s world, the single-passenger motor vehicles that clog our streets and make life increasingly hellish in our neighborhoods are all filled with hardworking middle class family men and women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You're not naive. You're just zeroing in on the fact that Richard Brodsky has little to no interest in reducing traffic congestion and automobile dependence in New York City. He recognizes that he can't just kill congestion pricing outright. He needs to put forward some alternative ideas. He put forward the taxi idea because he thinks it highlights the class disparity issue. He's saying: Let's make rich people pay the congestion money. NYC taxi are just filled with rich people, right? In Richard's world, the single-passenger motor vehicles that clog our streets and make life increasingly hellish in our neighborhoods are all filled with hardworking middle class family men and women.</p>
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		<title>By: Somewhat Naive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Somewhat Naive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 23:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could someone explain how a huge taxi tax reduces traffic? Charging will reduce demand. This reduced demand will take money away from drivers and owners. Since the price of the taxi medallion is a fixed cost, and the drivers still need to make a living, isn&#039;t this just more pressure to keep more medallions on the road? Seerately, on the politics front, can anyone with a straight face say medallion owners (people used to spreading cash around City Council)would stand for this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could someone explain how a huge taxi tax reduces traffic? Charging will reduce demand. This reduced demand will take money away from drivers and owners. Since the price of the taxi medallion is a fixed cost, and the drivers still need to make a living, isn't this just more pressure to keep more medallions on the road? Seerately, on the politics front, can anyone with a straight face say medallion owners (people used to spreading cash around City Council)would stand for this?</p>
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		<title>By: bb</title>
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		<dc:creator>bb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Jeffries district and I&#039;d like to know on whose behalf he&#039;s fighting.  I don&#039;t recall hearing of his efforts to reach out to constituents to find out what they think or how they&#039;d be affected.  He must be pretty tight with that 2.2% that drive to work in the zone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Jeffries district and I'd like to know on whose behalf he's fighting.  I don't recall hearing of his efforts to reach out to constituents to find out what they think or how they'd be affected.  He must be pretty tight with that 2.2% that drive to work in the zone.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I never thought I&#039;d be missing Roger Green.  I guess Jeffries is pandering to white ethnics in Southern Brooklyn in case he ever runs for a borough-wide position.  Being an outsider, he probably doesn&#039;t realize these people are no more stupid or selfish than his own constituents, even if they sometimes have foolish loudmouths speaking on their behalf.

This reminds me of a time years ago when Bill Deblasio was afraid to support a car-free Prospect Park until he polled Windsor Terrace and found out that to his surprise, even the working classes enjoy their park without cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I never thought I'd be missing Roger Green.  I guess Jeffries is pandering to white ethnics in Southern Brooklyn in case he ever runs for a borough-wide position.  Being an outsider, he probably doesn't realize these people are no more stupid or selfish than his own constituents, even if they sometimes have foolish loudmouths speaking on their behalf.</p>
<p>This reminds me of a time years ago when Bill Deblasio was afraid to support a car-free Prospect Park until he polled Windsor Terrace and found out that to his surprise, even the working classes enjoy their park without cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course you are right Carrie.  We use car service the same way.  Those who don&#039;t have cars are people who don&#039;t matter, to our pols.  I mean just look at them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you are right Carrie.  We use car service the same way.  Those who don't have cars are people who don't matter, to our pols.  I mean just look at them.</p>
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		<title>By: carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get why pols think sticking it to taxis is a good thing.     Those of us who don&#039;t own cars often rely on taxis when we&#039;re sick, have heavy items to transport, or other special needs. The fact that taxis are there and reasonably priced makes it easier to not own a car. The fact that I have to pay to take a cab makes me think seriously about whether that trip is necessary. Once you have a car, you might as well drive it as much as possible. In fact, without congestion pricing, it&#039;s in your financial interest to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't get why pols think sticking it to taxis is a good thing.     Those of us who don't own cars often rely on taxis when we're sick, have heavy items to transport, or other special needs. The fact that taxis are there and reasonably priced makes it easier to not own a car. The fact that I have to pay to take a cab makes me think seriously about whether that trip is necessary. Once you have a car, you might as well drive it as much as possible. In fact, without congestion pricing, it's in your financial interest to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lew, I&#039;m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you&#039;re sincere.  But do you really expect us to believe that Brodsky&#039;s alternate-day rationing plan was sincere?  It was obviously a &lt;i&gt;reductio ad absurdum&lt;/i&gt; ploy.  How gullible do you think we are?

Plus, a politician should expect to have his or her sincerity tested on everything.  To do otherwise would be political naïveté.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lew, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you're sincere.  But do you really expect us to believe that Brodsky's alternate-day rationing plan was sincere?  It was obviously a <i>reductio ad absurdum</i> ploy.  How gullible do you think we are?</p>
<p>Plus, a politician should expect to have his or her sincerity tested on everything.  To do otherwise would be political naïveté.</p>
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		<title>By: jmc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lew, you support 6.50 taxis? Please go on the record supporting a taxi fare hike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lew, you support 6.50 taxis? Please go on the record supporting a taxi fare hike.</p>
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