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	<title>Comments on: The Brodsky Alternative, Take Two: $6.50 to Enter a Cab</title>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 03:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, my contact info is on my webpage at http://www.grieve-smith.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, my contact info is on my webpage at <a href="http://www.grieve-smith.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.grieve-smith.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those of you who argue against CP on the basis that there is no guarantee that 100% would be used for mass-transit:  Few things in life are 100% guaranteed except for the fact that the city will lose $350 million in federal mass transit funds if CP is not passed. 

The fact that Brodsky&#039;s stupid taxi fare increase is actually being discussed amazes me.  Rather than reducing traffic it will increase it as the rich outer-borough residents and wealthy suburbanites will hae no dsincentiv to drive in the city.  

And as a car-owning city resident I will drive everywhere as it will be cheaper to drive and pay parking garage rates than to pay round-trip taxi fares.  The ones hurt will be the poor and middle-class who need to take taxis every now and then for health, convenience and other issues.

Wake up and realize that Brodsky is a city-hater who proposes stupid, idiotic proposals that hurt the average city-dweller and favor his rich Westchester constituents.  He has NO business telling us how the city should be run since he is not from here.

Tell Brodsky to get lost and rally for the return of the commuter tax (is Bruno gone yet?) the imposition of CP and RPP so that his rich constituents will have top pay through their privileged noses to drive into the city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those of you who argue against CP on the basis that there is no guarantee that 100% would be used for mass-transit:  Few things in life are 100% guaranteed except for the fact that the city will lose $350 million in federal mass transit funds if CP is not passed. </p>
<p>The fact that Brodsky&#8217;s stupid taxi fare increase is actually being discussed amazes me.  Rather than reducing traffic it will increase it as the rich outer-borough residents and wealthy suburbanites will hae no dsincentiv to drive in the city.  </p>
<p>And as a car-owning city resident I will drive everywhere as it will be cheaper to drive and pay parking garage rates than to pay round-trip taxi fares.  The ones hurt will be the poor and middle-class who need to take taxis every now and then for health, convenience and other issues.</p>
<p>Wake up and realize that Brodsky is a city-hater who proposes stupid, idiotic proposals that hurt the average city-dweller and favor his rich Westchester constituents.  He has NO business telling us how the city should be run since he is not from here.</p>
<p>Tell Brodsky to get lost and rally for the return of the commuter tax (is Bruno gone yet?) the imposition of CP and RPP so that his rich constituents will have top pay through their privileged noses to drive into the city.</p>
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		<title>By: hmph</title>
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		<dc:creator>hmph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.... the drivers of access-a-ride vans are 1)maniacs (just ask any cyclist), 2) rarely on time, 3) not available when needed at the spur of a moment 24/7 etc etc.

galvo is spot on re. the horror of navigating the subway in a wheelchair.  i am not mobility disabled, but have travelled to airports etc with lotsa luggage and, hell, there are so few functioning elevators in the damn system, its appalling!!!  in fact the NYT did a story on the travails of one wheelchair bound traveller.  sheesh, this is the 21st century.  get it together MTA!!!!  most, if not all, european cities&#039; subway systems are FAR MORE accessible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;. the drivers of access-a-ride vans are 1)maniacs (just ask any cyclist), 2) rarely on time, 3) not available when needed at the spur of a moment 24/7 etc etc.</p>
<p>galvo is spot on re. the horror of navigating the subway in a wheelchair.  i am not mobility disabled, but have travelled to airports etc with lotsa luggage and, hell, there are so few functioning elevators in the damn system, its appalling!!!  in fact the NYT did a story on the travails of one wheelchair bound traveller.  sheesh, this is the 21st century.  get it together MTA!!!!  most, if not all, european cities&#8217; subway systems are FAR MORE accessible.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Galvo,

And access-a-ride is not a suitable alternative for those with disabilities because.....?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Galvo,</p>
<p>And access-a-ride is not a suitable alternative for those with disabilities because&#8230;..?</p>
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		<title>By: Juan Pablo Montoya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan Pablo Montoya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I understand it, raising revenue &#039;for transit&#039; through taxi trips that usually could have been done using mass transit... Instead of taxing trucks, and business that don&#039;t have a mass transit option seems like a fair concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I understand it, raising revenue &#8216;for transit&#8217; through taxi trips that usually could have been done using mass transit&#8230; Instead of taxing trucks, and business that don&#8217;t have a mass transit option seems like a fair concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Barnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lots of pols have recently stated their misgivings regarding a huge pool of money that isn&#039;t 100% legally dedicated to mass transit. The majority of the public feels the same way according to today&#039;s poll.&quot;

Having misgivings about funds going where they are promised doesn&#039;t mean you don&#039;t want the funds at all. Like other questions on the poll, that one was terrible: [do you believe] &quot;that congestion pricing funds will be used to improve mass transit&quot;? What does that even mean? That 100% of the funds will be used to improve transit? 0% of the funds...? Isn&#039;t it possible that some will and some won&#039;t? All the question is really asking is if they&#039;re pessimistic about NY politics, and quelle surprise 54% of the respondents said yes.

I&#039;m just not feeling this call to inaction over doubts of complete success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lots of pols have recently stated their misgivings regarding a huge pool of money that isn&#8217;t 100% legally dedicated to mass transit. The majority of the public feels the same way according to today&#8217;s poll.&#8221;</p>
<p>Having misgivings about funds going where they are promised doesn&#8217;t mean you don&#8217;t want the funds at all. Like other questions on the poll, that one was terrible: [do you believe] &#8220;that congestion pricing funds will be used to improve mass transit&#8221;? What does that even mean? That 100% of the funds will be used to improve transit? 0% of the funds&#8230;? Isn&#8217;t it possible that some will and some won&#8217;t? All the question is really asking is if they&#8217;re pessimistic about NY politics, and quelle surprise 54% of the respondents said yes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just not feeling this call to inaction over doubts of complete success.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilary, I stand corrected, I did misread.  Yet I still don&#039;t understand the connection to the city&#039;s survival to the success or failure of congestion pricing now.  

Larry, you imply that the problem with two of the lines that I mentioned would be solved with more funding (leaving out mention of the L train and its use of new technology and continual overcrowding, thus, not solving the problem that the technology was to help solve).  Think this out.  We will put more people on the trains prior to any improvements that are needed to carry those people and we are going to use these magical funds that are hopefully dedicated to mass transit.  But last year, prior to the fare increase, the MTA had a surplus, then was in the red, then found more money but still there was an increase.  The 2nd avenue line was funded and now that we are approaching the deadline for CP, we find that it is unfunded.  Lots of funny numbers going on here.  Do we really think that will stop once this pool of money is sitting there?

Lots of pols have recently stated their misgivings regarding a huge pool of money that isn&#039;t 100% legally dedicated to mass transit.  The majority of the public feels the same way according to today&#039;s poll.

And why now, only weeks before the vote is Bloomberg addressing residential parking?  Couldn&#039;t this have been done sooner?  And parking placards?  We recently found out that there are 140,000 public parking placards out there, again, only weeks before the vote.  CP is a way for Bloomberg to put his stamp on NY like the failed stadium was to be.  The stadium as well as CP are flashy but don&#039;t address real world issues.  To me, his administration is manipulating information to make it seems as though CP is the only way to save mass transit.  However, we all know that is not true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilary, I stand corrected, I did misread.  Yet I still don&#8217;t understand the connection to the city&#8217;s survival to the success or failure of congestion pricing now.  </p>
<p>Larry, you imply that the problem with two of the lines that I mentioned would be solved with more funding (leaving out mention of the L train and its use of new technology and continual overcrowding, thus, not solving the problem that the technology was to help solve).  Think this out.  We will put more people on the trains prior to any improvements that are needed to carry those people and we are going to use these magical funds that are hopefully dedicated to mass transit.  But last year, prior to the fare increase, the MTA had a surplus, then was in the red, then found more money but still there was an increase.  The 2nd avenue line was funded and now that we are approaching the deadline for CP, we find that it is unfunded.  Lots of funny numbers going on here.  Do we really think that will stop once this pool of money is sitting there?</p>
<p>Lots of pols have recently stated their misgivings regarding a huge pool of money that isn&#8217;t 100% legally dedicated to mass transit.  The majority of the public feels the same way according to today&#8217;s poll.</p>
<p>And why now, only weeks before the vote is Bloomberg addressing residential parking?  Couldn&#8217;t this have been done sooner?  And parking placards?  We recently found out that there are 140,000 public parking placards out there, again, only weeks before the vote.  CP is a way for Bloomberg to put his stamp on NY like the failed stadium was to be.  The stadium as well as CP are flashy but don&#8217;t address real world issues.  To me, his administration is manipulating information to make it seems as though CP is the only way to save mass transit.  However, we all know that is not true.</p>
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		<title>By: galvo</title>
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		<dc:creator>galvo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the disabled  and temp disable, sick people going to doctors  and hospitals get hit very hard by any taxi increase and penalty.
the  nyc subway system is far from accessible and damn scary to navigate in a  wheel chair. NYC is far behind london in accessible issues , in london  the taxis are accessible for wc user to roll in and roll out and have been for a long time. i think nyc has 24 wc accessible taxis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the disabled  and temp disable, sick people going to doctors  and hospitals get hit very hard by any taxi increase and penalty.<br />
the  nyc subway system is far from accessible and damn scary to navigate in a  wheel chair. NYC is far behind london in accessible issues , in london  the taxis are accessible for wc user to roll in and roll out and have been for a long time. i think nyc has 24 wc accessible taxis</p>
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		<title>By: Hilary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hilary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, You misread my post (or misunderstood the word &quot;rue&quot;?). Try again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, You misread my post (or misunderstood the word &#8220;rue&#8221;?). Try again.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(ridership is at a 35 year high. Anyone on here try to ride the 6 train anywhere in Manhattan during the day? Or how about the 7 train during rush hour?)

The plan was to replace the signals on the Flushing Line with CBTC technology that (assuming the Flushing Extension is completed with its greater terminal capacity) would allow up to 40 trains per hour, compared with 30 now.  As it is, expect growing signal failures.

The plan also was to build the Second Avenue Subway from 63rd Street to 125th Street.

I say &quot;was&quot; because the plan lacks $10 billion, with $4 billion borrowed and $4.5 billion dependent on CP.

I might add that the two biggest transit investments of the past two decades were in Queens -- the Queens Boulevard line extension to the 63rd Street tunnel, and the current LIRR to GCT, which benefits eastern Queens.

If Queens residents want to drive, moreover, they should let other people drive, too.  How about adding more lanes to the LIE from the Nassua line to the Clearview?  The work is done in Nassau and Suffolk.  Queens fought it and limited it to, I believe, a single HOV lane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(ridership is at a 35 year high. Anyone on here try to ride the 6 train anywhere in Manhattan during the day? Or how about the 7 train during rush hour?)</p>
<p>The plan was to replace the signals on the Flushing Line with CBTC technology that (assuming the Flushing Extension is completed with its greater terminal capacity) would allow up to 40 trains per hour, compared with 30 now.  As it is, expect growing signal failures.</p>
<p>The plan also was to build the Second Avenue Subway from 63rd Street to 125th Street.</p>
<p>I say &#8220;was&#8221; because the plan lacks $10 billion, with $4 billion borrowed and $4.5 billion dependent on CP.</p>
<p>I might add that the two biggest transit investments of the past two decades were in Queens &#8212; the Queens Boulevard line extension to the 63rd Street tunnel, and the current LIRR to GCT, which benefits eastern Queens.</p>
<p>If Queens residents want to drive, moreover, they should let other people drive, too.  How about adding more lanes to the LIE from the Nassua line to the Clearview?  The work is done in Nassau and Suffolk.  Queens fought it and limited it to, I believe, a single HOV lane.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angus, how do I contact you because I would like to talk about this. Also, I reiterate, ridership is at a 35 year high.  Anyone on here try to ride the 6 train anywhere in Manhattan during the day?  Or how about the 7 train during rush hour?  And I am sure there are many other lines that are just as crowded - L train maybe?  And we will just put more people on there?

Also, according to Hilary, that makes things safer?  I remember crime rates during the 70s and 80s on the subways that were much higher than today.  Overcrowding causes delays and tighter space both increase anxiety which contribute to more problems, not less.  Hilary, I think that you are recalling halcyon days of yore.

Also, during the 90s, many cities rebounded, not just NY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angus, how do I contact you because I would like to talk about this. Also, I reiterate, ridership is at a 35 year high.  Anyone on here try to ride the 6 train anywhere in Manhattan during the day?  Or how about the 7 train during rush hour?  And I am sure there are many other lines that are just as crowded &#8211; L train maybe?  And we will just put more people on there?</p>
<p>Also, according to Hilary, that makes things safer?  I remember crime rates during the 70s and 80s on the subways that were much higher than today.  Overcrowding causes delays and tighter space both increase anxiety which contribute to more problems, not less.  Hilary, I think that you are recalling halcyon days of yore.</p>
<p>Also, during the 90s, many cities rebounded, not just NY.</p>
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		<title>By: Hilary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hilary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only people who didn&#039;t know the city in the 70s and 80s would rue congestion on the subways. We who were here know that crowded subways and bustling stations are a great thing. It&#039;s riders that make the system safe, as well as justify its expansion. Everytime I squeeze into a car now I thank heaven the city lived to see another day. Few cities can say the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only people who didn&#8217;t know the city in the 70s and 80s would rue congestion on the subways. We who were here know that crowded subways and bustling stations are a great thing. It&#8217;s riders that make the system safe, as well as justify its expansion. Everytime I squeeze into a car now I thank heaven the city lived to see another day. Few cities can say the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;(and it is estimated that the CP infrastructure will take up to 2 years to pay for itself)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ed, I think you&#039;re working from an earlier version of congestion pricing, the one with all the gantries and cameras.  The version proposed by the Commission would only have gantries on the avenues at 60th Street, plus EZPass on the bridges.

Also, as I keep telling Lew, the number of people who drive into Manhattan isn&#039;t really that big.  It just seems like a lot because they come in big packages.  If they were on the train it wouldn&#039;t contribute that much to crowding.

I&#039;m glad you support tolling the bridges; if you could get Eric and Marge to come out in support of that, maybe we&#039;d get somewhere.  Congestion pricing has the potential to make a lot of good changes in our neighborhood.  They can be done without it, though.  I&#039;d be happy to talk with you about what they are and how we can get them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>(and it is estimated that the CP infrastructure will take up to 2 years to pay for itself)</p></blockquote>
<p>Ed, I think you&#8217;re working from an earlier version of congestion pricing, the one with all the gantries and cameras.  The version proposed by the Commission would only have gantries on the avenues at 60th Street, plus EZPass on the bridges.</p>
<p>Also, as I keep telling Lew, the number of people who drive into Manhattan isn&#8217;t really that big.  It just seems like a lot because they come in big packages.  If they were on the train it wouldn&#8217;t contribute that much to crowding.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you support tolling the bridges; if you could get Eric and Marge to come out in support of that, maybe we&#8217;d get somewhere.  Congestion pricing has the potential to make a lot of good changes in our neighborhood.  They can be done without it, though.  I&#8217;d be happy to talk with you about what they are and how we can get them.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, I&#039;d rather have more people squished with me for the subway ride than driving their cars by me when I get out of the station.

Who knows, maybe some people will take their bikes if some the traffic is a little more tolerable.  It&#039;s not so bad!  Also, tolling bridges would tighten the trains too, right?  I&#039;m with the rest of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, I&#8217;d rather have more people squished with me for the subway ride than driving their cars by me when I get out of the station.</p>
<p>Who knows, maybe some people will take their bikes if some the traffic is a little more tolerable.  It&#8217;s not so bad!  Also, tolling bridges would tighten the trains too, right?  I&#8217;m with the rest of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must comment that there are many of us Woodside residents who agree with Shelly and are adamantly against congestion pricing.  I am one of those.  There is absolutely no guarantee that funds collected will be used for mass transit.  Ridership of mass transit is at a 35 year peak and more people will be forced onto mass transit before one dime is deposited into the system (and it is estimated that the CP infrastructure will take up to 2 years to pay for itself).  That will be a very uncomfortable commute.  Also, even if the monies are used for mass transit, who doesn&#039;t believe that will create a reduction in federally available monies since there is dedicated funding in place through CP?  The MTA will continue to beg for money NO MATTER WHAT in the way that it is currently funded.  Will CP help?  Not a bit.  Toll the bridges if you want money faster for mass transit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must comment that there are many of us Woodside residents who agree with Shelly and are adamantly against congestion pricing.  I am one of those.  There is absolutely no guarantee that funds collected will be used for mass transit.  Ridership of mass transit is at a 35 year peak and more people will be forced onto mass transit before one dime is deposited into the system (and it is estimated that the CP infrastructure will take up to 2 years to pay for itself).  That will be a very uncomfortable commute.  Also, even if the monies are used for mass transit, who doesn&#8217;t believe that will create a reduction in federally available monies since there is dedicated funding in place through CP?  The MTA will continue to beg for money NO MATTER WHAT in the way that it is currently funded.  Will CP help?  Not a bit.  Toll the bridges if you want money faster for mass transit.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Barnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spike, I agree that regulations for all manner of hired cars could use some improvement, but I hesitate to say that Brodky is &quot;right&quot; about anything here. When he and others that live elsewhere and drive here talk about &quot;doing something&quot; about cabs in the city, what they mean is &quot;get these damn things out of my way so &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; can drive faster&quot;. Cabs are not useful to them, and being distinctive they stand out as a component of traffic. But if you sweep some cabs off the road, or if the enforcement ideas you&#039;re suggesting made a difference, that would only free some space for parking permit holders and other entitled car owners to fill in. Which they would do in a jiffy. Yes, hired cars are a part of congestion, but as far as being a &quot;big part&quot; of the problem, in fact they are well ahead of personal cars in terms of the &lt;i&gt;solution&lt;/i&gt; because they already have a per-trip consumption charge.

Raising cab fares is tightening one spigot while leaving the other with no valve at all. The overflowing bucket is getting tired of this crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spike, I agree that regulations for all manner of hired cars could use some improvement, but I hesitate to say that Brodky is &#8220;right&#8221; about anything here. When he and others that live elsewhere and drive here talk about &#8220;doing something&#8221; about cabs in the city, what they mean is &#8220;get these damn things out of my way so <i>I</i> can drive faster&#8221;. Cabs are not useful to them, and being distinctive they stand out as a component of traffic. But if you sweep some cabs off the road, or if the enforcement ideas you&#8217;re suggesting made a difference, that would only free some space for parking permit holders and other entitled car owners to fill in. Which they would do in a jiffy. Yes, hired cars are a part of congestion, but as far as being a &#8220;big part&#8221; of the problem, in fact they are well ahead of personal cars in terms of the <i>solution</i> because they already have a per-trip consumption charge.</p>
<p>Raising cab fares is tightening one spigot while leaving the other with no valve at all. The overflowing bucket is getting tired of this crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Hilary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hilary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Brodsky would impose an $8 per-ride surcharge on the taxi that originates in the CBD, but none on the Westchester, CT or NJ taxi or car service (or family chauffeur!) that enters it?  What&#039;s wrong with this picture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Brodsky would impose an $8 per-ride surcharge on the taxi that originates in the CBD, but none on the Westchester, CT or NJ taxi or car service (or family chauffeur!) that enters it?  What&#8217;s wrong with this picture?</p>
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		<title>By: spike</title>
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		<dc:creator>spike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support much of the congestion pricing plan, but Brodksy is right when he says that cabs and particularly limos are a big part of the congestion problem. A cab with a single person going from A to B is worse than a person commuting in their own car from A to B because the commuter doesn&#039;t doesn&#039;t spend the whole day driving around looking for hires. The limos are the worst since they spend so much of their time looking for fares. If there weren&#039;t so many taxis than the buses would move twice as fast. 

The burbs see congestion pricing as rich manhattanites who can afford to live in the middle of everything working to exclude the hoi polloi from the burbs so as to make their cab trips faster.  (Bloomberg wants to make it possible for him to be ferried from his house on the upper east side to city hall so that he doesn&#039;t have to take the subway anymore). 

The city should be rethinking how cabs and limos work. They should eliminate many of the limos. They should require cabs to pull fully over to the curb before picking up passengers and provide taxi stops on every block on the avenues for the taxis to pull over into. (How about using the space next to the fire hydrants). Taxis should not be allowed to pick up or discharge passengers from the moving lanes. No double parking including cabs and limos should be allowed on the avenues period. That, more than anything else would improve traffic in manhattan.  Right now the cross town buses are slower than walking. I would like to see that fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support much of the congestion pricing plan, but Brodksy is right when he says that cabs and particularly limos are a big part of the congestion problem. A cab with a single person going from A to B is worse than a person commuting in their own car from A to B because the commuter doesn&#8217;t doesn&#8217;t spend the whole day driving around looking for hires. The limos are the worst since they spend so much of their time looking for fares. If there weren&#8217;t so many taxis than the buses would move twice as fast. </p>
<p>The burbs see congestion pricing as rich manhattanites who can afford to live in the middle of everything working to exclude the hoi polloi from the burbs so as to make their cab trips faster.  (Bloomberg wants to make it possible for him to be ferried from his house on the upper east side to city hall so that he doesn&#8217;t have to take the subway anymore). </p>
<p>The city should be rethinking how cabs and limos work. They should eliminate many of the limos. They should require cabs to pull fully over to the curb before picking up passengers and provide taxi stops on every block on the avenues for the taxis to pull over into. (How about using the space next to the fire hydrants). Taxis should not be allowed to pick up or discharge passengers from the moving lanes. No double parking including cabs and limos should be allowed on the avenues period. That, more than anything else would improve traffic in manhattan.  Right now the cross town buses are slower than walking. I would like to see that fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: Heffron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heffron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Astoria and yes I support congestion pricing.  As long as the DoT implements some strict residential parking permits (and I believe they will after attending the workshop in LIC on them) you will not see a huge overflow of park and riders in Western Queens, in fact it may just go down.

I pay plenty of city taxes too, why can&#039;t I have greater access to the city streets for non-automobile traffic, that&#039;s what I want for my money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Astoria and yes I support congestion pricing.  As long as the DoT implements some strict residential parking permits (and I believe they will after attending the workshop in LIC on them) you will not see a huge overflow of park and riders in Western Queens, in fact it may just go down.</p>
<p>I pay plenty of city taxes too, why can&#8217;t I have greater access to the city streets for non-automobile traffic, that&#8217;s what I want for my money.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 05:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shelley, as long as nobody builds any new parking in Queens, the people from Long Island will have no reason to drive here.  They will park in their hometowns and take the railroad.

Again, in Woodside, Astoria and Sunnyside many of us are &lt;i&gt;for&lt;/i&gt; congestion pricing.  The Commission projects that Western Queens would see as much reduction in traffic as Manhattan - almost 40% on the most clogged streets.  Please get the facts before you get all ready to fight.

This plan is not about Manhattan; it&#039;s about the city as a whole.  It focuses on Manhattan because the rivers are an easy place to control cars.  When you swallow an aspirin, you don&#039;t expect it to only help your throat, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelley, as long as nobody builds any new parking in Queens, the people from Long Island will have no reason to drive here.  They will park in their hometowns and take the railroad.</p>
<p>Again, in Woodside, Astoria and Sunnyside many of us are <i>for</i> congestion pricing.  The Commission projects that Western Queens would see as much reduction in traffic as Manhattan &#8211; almost 40% on the most clogged streets.  Please get the facts before you get all ready to fight.</p>
<p>This plan is not about Manhattan; it&#8217;s about the city as a whole.  It focuses on Manhattan because the rivers are an easy place to control cars.  When you swallow an aspirin, you don&#8217;t expect it to only help your throat, right?</p>
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