Comments on: Today’s Headlines http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/18/todays-headlines-341/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:24:06 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Niccolo Machiavelli http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/18/todays-headlines-341/comment-page-1/#comment-44706 Niccolo Machiavelli Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:38:02 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/18/todays-headlines-341/#comment-44706 Actually Larry, I think the number was $1.299. There you go again, overstating the case. Actually Larry, I think the number was $1.299. There you go again, overstating the case.

]]> By: Larry Littlefield http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/18/todays-headlines-341/comment-page-1/#comment-44703 Larry Littlefield Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:41:07 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/18/todays-headlines-341/#comment-44703 "all to preserve a mythical $2 fare that no New Yorker actually pays." Funny, but I didn't hear the Straphangers and all the people objecting to fare hikes saying that the current fare is actually $1.29, way, way down from a decade ago with free transfers added for those in the congestion pricing complaint zone. I heard them saying the fare was $2, and too high. A bunch of deceitful propaganda was called. That's what happened. In fact, I advocated eliminating the unlimited cards, eliminating the purchase bonus, cutting the fare to $1.50, and cutting the service to 1995 levels. Then putting things back if and when people were prepared to admit that they existed. "all to preserve a mythical $2 fare that no New Yorker actually pays."

Funny, but I didn't hear the Straphangers and all the people objecting to fare hikes saying that the current fare is actually $1.29, way, way down from a decade ago with free transfers added for those in the congestion pricing complaint zone. I heard them saying the fare was $2, and too high.

A bunch of deceitful propaganda was called. That's what happened. In fact, I advocated eliminating the unlimited cards, eliminating the purchase bonus, cutting the fare to $1.50, and cutting the service to 1995 levels.

Then putting things back if and when people were prepared to admit that they existed.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/18/todays-headlines-341/comment-page-1/#comment-44701 Jonathan Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:15:13 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/18/todays-headlines-341/#comment-44701 '578 miles of waterfront,' says Councilman Gentile. He touts the 69th St pier and the money he's gotten to make it ferry-ready, but the pier is still 4/5 mile (a 16-minute walk) from the subway on 4th Avenue, and the buses (<a href="http://www.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bkln/b001cur.pdf" rel="nofollow">B1</a> and <a href="http://www.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bkln/b009cur.pdf" rel="nofollow">B9</a>) don't even have a place to turn around there, which means extra hassle for ferry-bus transfers. Plus, it's still a 20-minute ferry ride; the R train from Bay Ridge Ave & 4th Ave is scheduled to take 33 minutes to City Hall. Nice if you work at World Financial Center or one of the big buildings on Water Street downtown; once you have to go further inland the ferry starts to take more time. It's a bone for the people who live near there but I don't think it does anything for the majority of Brooklynites. '578 miles of waterfront,' says Councilman Gentile. He touts the 69th St pier and the money he's gotten to make it ferry-ready, but the pier is still 4/5 mile (a 16-minute walk) from the subway on 4th Avenue, and the buses (B1 and B9) don't even have a place to turn around there, which means extra hassle for ferry-bus transfers.

Plus, it's still a 20-minute ferry ride; the R train from Bay Ridge Ave & 4th Ave is scheduled to take 33 minutes to City Hall. Nice if you work at World Financial Center or one of the big buildings on Water Street downtown; once you have to go further inland the ferry starts to take more time.

It's a bone for the people who live near there but I don't think it does anything for the majority of Brooklynites.

]]> By: jmc http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/18/todays-headlines-341/comment-page-1/#comment-44699 jmc Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:50:58 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/02/18/todays-headlines-341/#comment-44699 I can't believe that the MetroCard bonus is going down and the monthly card is going up, all to preserve a mythical $2 fare that no New Yorker actually pays. All of the major politicians should be ashamed of themselves for sticking it to residents at the expense of tourists. $1.50 on the MetroCard is a huge pain in the butt, it's why I hate taking the PATH. I can't believe that the MetroCard bonus is going down and the monthly card is going up, all to preserve a mythical $2 fare that no New Yorker actually pays. All of the major politicians should be ashamed of themselves for sticking it to residents at the expense of tourists.

$1.50 on the MetroCard is a huge pain in the butt, it's why I hate taking the PATH.

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