Comments on: Interstate Access, Plenty of Parking at the “Green” Airport http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:07:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Hilary http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/comment-page-1/#comment-43720 Hilary Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:57:01 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/#comment-43720 If you want to hear something really sickening, Stewart Airport is where the Hudson River Valley Greenway project I've been on for 3 years meets. Everyone in the valley drives at least an hour to get there. The barracks are used for NYS offices. If you want to hear something really sickening, Stewart Airport is where the Hudson River Valley Greenway project I’ve been on for 3 years meets. Everyone in the valley drives at least an hour to get there. The barracks are used for NYS offices.

]]> By: momos http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/comment-page-1/#comment-43716 momos Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:18:43 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/#comment-43716 Stewart Airport "Green"?? It will become the hub of new slew of endless fossil-fuel guzzling exurbs. If it draws travelers from the south it will add to the fossil-fuel guzzling gridlock around NYC. It it draws travelers from the north it will cannibalize Albany's already faltering regional airport. It's absurd to think this project is in anyway "green." And it's questionable on economic grounds. The real GREEN solution to airport gridlock in NYC is not Stewart. It's taking that $500 million and investing it in high-speed rail from DC to Boston. The capacity savings at the airports can then be used for far more valuable long-distance widebody flights. Stewart Airport “Green”??

It will become the hub of new slew of endless fossil-fuel guzzling exurbs.

If it draws travelers from the south it will add to the fossil-fuel guzzling gridlock around NYC.

It it draws travelers from the north it will cannibalize Albany’s already faltering regional airport.

It’s absurd to think this project is in anyway “green.” And it’s questionable on economic grounds.

The real GREEN solution to airport gridlock in NYC is not Stewart. It’s taking that $500 million and investing it in high-speed rail from DC to Boston. The capacity savings at the airports can then be used for far more valuable long-distance widebody flights.

]]> By: Bill http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/comment-page-1/#comment-43704 Bill Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:56:16 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/#comment-43704 Stewart Park and Reserve Coalition has a map showing the western lands/Drury Road area and the I-84 interchange: http://www.frontiernet.net/~sparc/ Stewart Park and Reserve Coalition has a map showing the western lands/Drury Road area and the I-84 interchange: http://www.frontiernet.net/~sparc/

]]> By: Sprawl Bomb http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/comment-page-1/#comment-43703 Sprawl Bomb Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:29:08 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/#comment-43703 Green governors do not promote super sprawl spewers like this. Green governors do not promote super sprawl spewers like this.

]]> By: galvo http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/comment-page-1/#comment-43701 galvo Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:16:33 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/#comment-43701 i think Stewart airport is one of the biggest in the country, it has one of the longest runways , i think it is the only airport in the area that can handle the landing of the c5a galaxy. there is a popular mountain biking area that adjoins it, i hear you can get seriously lost in there. they need public transit to that area. i think Stewart airport is one of the biggest in the country, it has one of the longest runways , i think it is the only airport in the area that can handle the landing of the c5a galaxy.
there is a popular mountain biking area that adjoins it, i hear you can get seriously lost in there.
they need public transit to that area.

]]> By: drewo http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/comment-page-1/#comment-43697 drewo Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:59:06 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/#comment-43697 A NYCC ride I led years ago went by the "backside" (Western edge?) of Stewart Airport, on/or near a Drury Road I believe. If we were lucky, one of those gigantic dark military cargo jets would be coming in, at what seemed to be about 25mph, blackening the sky, it's engines obliterating all other sound. Pretty cool. A NYCC ride I led years ago went by the “backside” (Western edge?) of Stewart Airport, on/or near a Drury Road I believe. If we were lucky, one of those gigantic dark military cargo jets would be coming in, at what seemed to be about 25mph, blackening the sky, it’s engines obliterating all other sound. Pretty cool.

]]> By: Charles Siegel http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/comment-page-1/#comment-43693 Charles Siegel Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:34:18 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/#comment-43693 " an anchor for growth in the Hudson Valley" What sort of growth will be generated by an airport? Obviously sprawl rather than transit-oriented development. No one wants to cluster uses near an airport because of noise. Even if they did want to, an airport requires so much land for runways and storage of planes that clustering is impossible. And the emissions from the planes will be even worse than the emission from the sprawl that is generated. If you want to be green, build high-speed rail, which will substitute for some airplane trips. A trip by high-speed rail generates only about one-sixth as much CO2 as the same trip by plane. And you can actually have walkable development rather than sprawl around the train stations. ” an anchor for growth in the Hudson Valley”

What sort of growth will be generated by an airport?

Obviously sprawl rather than transit-oriented development. No one wants to cluster uses near an airport because of noise. Even if they did want to, an airport requires so much land for runways and storage of planes that clustering is impossible.

And the emissions from the planes will be even worse than the emission from the sprawl that is generated.

If you want to be green, build high-speed rail, which will substitute for some airplane trips. A trip by high-speed rail generates only about one-sixth as much CO2 as the same trip by plane. And you can actually have walkable development rather than sprawl around the train stations.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/comment-page-1/#comment-43691 Jonathan Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:16:19 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/#comment-43691 It would be nice if <a href="http://www.trips123.com/trip_planner/default.asp" rel="nofollow">trips123</a>'s transit planner could help you figure out how to get there. I've both flown out of the airport and dropped off people there (in 2004) and it's a small suburban airport, easy to get around in. The White Plains airport (HPN) is another option that's closer to the city than Stewart, even though it's not operated by the Port Authority. It would be nice if trips123‘s transit planner could help you figure out how to get there. I’ve both flown out of the airport and dropped off people there (in 2004) and it’s a small suburban airport, easy to get around in. The White Plains airport (HPN) is another option that’s closer to the city than Stewart, even though it’s not operated by the Port Authority.

]]> By: anon http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/comment-page-1/#comment-43687 anon Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:08:22 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/interstate-access-plenty-of-parking-at-the-green-airport/#comment-43687 How about some high speed rail as an alternative to LGA, JFK, and EWR? How about some high speed rail as an alternative to LGA, JFK, and EWR?

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