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	<title>Comments on: City Numbers Show Highest Cyclist Death Toll in Eight Years</title>
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		<title>By: Primal</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/city-numbers-show-highest-cyclist-death-toll-in-eight-years/comment-page-1/#comment-43928</link>
		<dc:creator>Primal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally lost a cycling mate in Mid November last year. From that has stemmed www.nutsatthewheel.com as a cyclist myself living in an overcrowded city where the motoring public show no respect to pedestrians and cyclists alike this is a real issue. No stats tell of the maimed and disabled. Stay safe out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally lost a cycling mate in Mid November last year. From that has stemmed <a href="http://www.nutsatthewheel.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nutsatthewheel.com</a> as a cyclist myself living in an overcrowded city where the motoring public show no respect to pedestrians and cyclists alike this is a real issue. No stats tell of the maimed and disabled. Stay safe out there!</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: the number of pedestrian and cyclist injuries, is there some kind of rule of thumb for estimating injuries based on the number of fatalities? 

In other words, for each cyclist killed, statistically there&#039;s probably a certain number of cyclists injured. Just curious if anyone has any estimate based on any statistics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: the number of pedestrian and cyclist injuries, is there some kind of rule of thumb for estimating injuries based on the number of fatalities? </p>
<p>In other words, for each cyclist killed, statistically there&#8217;s probably a certain number of cyclists injured. Just curious if anyone has any estimate based on any statistics.</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
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		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had the bike fixed since he hit me and I&#039;ve removed and re-affixed the lights a zillion times since then, so I think even an administrative law judge would know the bike&#039;s not evidence.  (Alternatively, I could say I needed the bike at the hearing to re-enact how the crash occurred! :D)  But you&#039;re probably right that I would have a decent shot at talking my way past whoever is at the door with a story about the use of the bike as physical or demonstrative evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had the bike fixed since he hit me and I&#8217;ve removed and re-affixed the lights a zillion times since then, so I think even an administrative law judge would know the bike&#8217;s not evidence.  (Alternatively, I could say I needed the bike at the hearing to re-enact how the crash occurred! <img src='http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> )  But you&#8217;re probably right that I would have a decent shot at talking my way past whoever is at the door with a story about the use of the bike as physical or demonstrative evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, the TLC hearings are in front of admin-law judges, not real judges, so I don&#039;t know if this will work, but if I were you I would tell the TLC cops at the door that the bike is evidence for a hearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, the TLC hearings are in front of admin-law judges, not real judges, so I don&#8217;t know if this will work, but if I were you I would tell the TLC cops at the door that the bike is evidence for a hearing.</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
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		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jonathan &amp; Glenn.  I think I&#039;ll go.  But do you really think they&#039;ll let me bring me bike inside?  I should bring Lynette Chang with me to film my attempt to gain entry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jonathan &amp; Glenn.  I think I&#8217;ll go.  But do you really think they&#8217;ll let me bring me bike inside?  I should bring Lynette Chang with me to film my attempt to gain entry!</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think attending the hearing and arguing for sanctions could be two different decisions:

1. I think you should attend.

2a. You might merely make a general statement about lack of driver attention to cyclists 

OR 

2b. If you think there might be some deterence in making an example of this driver, then call for sanctions.

My feeling is that the extent of your injuries should not be a factor in your decision. Like the broken windows theory, minor accidents from driver inattention are deaths from inattention waiting to happen. You could be dead or severely injured, leaving your wife &amp; children without a husband/father. Be respectful (as I know you will) and firm in your sense of justice to prevent future incidents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think attending the hearing and arguing for sanctions could be two different decisions:</p>
<p>1. I think you should attend.</p>
<p>2a. You might merely make a general statement about lack of driver attention to cyclists </p>
<p>OR </p>
<p>2b. If you think there might be some deterence in making an example of this driver, then call for sanctions.</p>
<p>My feeling is that the extent of your injuries should not be a factor in your decision. Like the broken windows theory, minor accidents from driver inattention are deaths from inattention waiting to happen. You could be dead or severely injured, leaving your wife &amp; children without a husband/father. Be respectful (as I know you will) and firm in your sense of justice to prevent future incidents.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, I think you should go, but I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any kind of penalty. I checked the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/html/site_map/site_map.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TLC website&lt;/a&gt; and there&#039;s no mention of sanctions besides fines to pay. At the very least, you can show off your bike to the admin-law judge with all the requisite lights and reflectors.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I think you should go, but I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any kind of penalty. I checked the <a href="http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/html/site_map/site_map.shtml" rel="nofollow">TLC website</a> and there&#8217;s no mention of sanctions besides fines to pay. At the very least, you can show off your bike to the admin-law judge with all the requisite lights and reflectors.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
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		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An open request for advice from Streetbloggers:   

I have a complaint scheduled to be heard tomorrow before the TLC against a cab driver who hit me three months ago.  I was proceeding northbound in the Central Park West bike lane at night with all the requisite lights and reflectors, and the cab driver merged right, into the bike lane, preparatory to making a right turn onto the 65th St. Transverse, hitting me and knocking me off my bike.  

To his credit, he did not flee the scene or try to blame me.  He said he did not see me, and I think that is true (although I think it is also true that he did not look for me). I summoned the police and made out a police report, and I am purusing the insurance company for property damage (my bike and clothes).  I was not seriously injured although I am still quite sore in one finger months later.

Should I attend the hearing and argue for the driver to be sanctioned in some way for having hit me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An open request for advice from Streetbloggers:   </p>
<p>I have a complaint scheduled to be heard tomorrow before the TLC against a cab driver who hit me three months ago.  I was proceeding northbound in the Central Park West bike lane at night with all the requisite lights and reflectors, and the cab driver merged right, into the bike lane, preparatory to making a right turn onto the 65th St. Transverse, hitting me and knocking me off my bike.  </p>
<p>To his credit, he did not flee the scene or try to blame me.  He said he did not see me, and I think that is true (although I think it is also true that he did not look for me). I summoned the police and made out a police report, and I am purusing the insurance company for property damage (my bike and clothes).  I was not seriously injured although I am still quite sore in one finger months later.</p>
<p>Should I attend the hearing and argue for the driver to be sanctioned in some way for having hit me?</p>
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		<title>By: ln</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/29/city-numbers-show-highest-cyclist-death-toll-in-eight-years/comment-page-1/#comment-43795</link>
		<dc:creator>ln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, this link should work:
http://www.ghostbikes.org/new-york-city</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, this link should work:<br />
<a href="http://www.ghostbikes.org/new-york-city" rel="nofollow">http://www.ghostbikes.org/new-york-city</a></p>
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		<title>By: ln</title>
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		<dc:creator>ln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you would like to see the (known) crash situation with each of the (named) cyclists killed since 2005. Go to www.ghostbikes.org/new-york-city. 

All of the crash situations, as known from the media or first hand reports are there, with links to the sources. I&#039;ve been over them all, and I would say that a vast majority of them were the result of inattentive and/or downright uncaring drivers and/or faulty infrastructure.  The few resulting summons and arrests (reported) are also reported there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you would like to see the (known) crash situation with each of the (named) cyclists killed since 2005. Go to <a href="http://www.ghostbikes.org/new-york-city" rel="nofollow">http://www.ghostbikes.org/new-york-city</a>. </p>
<p>All of the crash situations, as known from the media or first hand reports are there, with links to the sources. I&#8217;ve been over them all, and I would say that a vast majority of them were the result of inattentive and/or downright uncaring drivers and/or faulty infrastructure.  The few resulting summons and arrests (reported) are also reported there.</p>
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		<title>By: curmudgeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denton, poor visibility of cyclists can also be caused by cyclists themselves.
-not using lights or reflective gear at night, which is akin to putting a big sign up saying &quot;hit me&quot;.
-riding in places where motorists are not expecting traffic, like against traffic, or through intersections where the cyclist has the red light, etc.
-riding on the sidewalk (or actually, off the sidewalk into the intersection without stopping or scanning).

One night I was in a line of traffic, and it was the &quot;dumb motorist&quot; who slammed on the brakes, saving a cyclist who was doing all 3 of these at once.   You should check out Bob Mionske&#039;s book &quot;Bicycling and the Law&quot;, particularly Chap. 3 which covers types of bike crashes.  It has a great discussion crashes caused by things that cyclists do to reduce their own visibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denton, poor visibility of cyclists can also be caused by cyclists themselves.<br />
-not using lights or reflective gear at night, which is akin to putting a big sign up saying &#8220;hit me&#8221;.<br />
-riding in places where motorists are not expecting traffic, like against traffic, or through intersections where the cyclist has the red light, etc.<br />
-riding on the sidewalk (or actually, off the sidewalk into the intersection without stopping or scanning).</p>
<p>One night I was in a line of traffic, and it was the &#8220;dumb motorist&#8221; who slammed on the brakes, saving a cyclist who was doing all 3 of these at once.   You should check out Bob Mionske&#8217;s book &#8220;Bicycling and the Law&#8221;, particularly Chap. 3 which covers types of bike crashes.  It has a great discussion crashes caused by things that cyclists do to reduce their own visibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Hilary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hilary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is also the factor of increasing speed on the city streets and arterials during all but the most congested periods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also the factor of increasing speed on the city streets and arterials during all but the most congested periods.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(There is quite a bit of new occupant features built into the newer vehicles, as air bags and curtains are required for passengers. The problem is they do not help reduce the injury and survival rate of bicyclists or pedestrians.)

One might argue that large SUVs, because they crush cyclists and pedestrians under the wheels rather than flip them onto the hood (and crash through the side windows of passenger cars), are designed to reduce the survival rate of those outside the vehicle while increasing the survival rate for those inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(There is quite a bit of new occupant features built into the newer vehicles, as air bags and curtains are required for passengers. The problem is they do not help reduce the injury and survival rate of bicyclists or pedestrians.)</p>
<p>One might argue that large SUVs, because they crush cyclists and pedestrians under the wheels rather than flip them onto the hood (and crash through the side windows of passenger cars), are designed to reduce the survival rate of those outside the vehicle while increasing the survival rate for those inside.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael1 -

You&#039;re certainly right about Houston Street.  I&#039;m a decent cyclist, keep my bike in good condition, wear a helmet, know where and when to be looking for cross traffic, and STILL feel like I&#039;m going to get plowed over every time I&#039;m there.

(And that&#039;s not even mentioning the potholes, construction barricades, etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael1 -</p>
<p>You&#8217;re certainly right about Houston Street.  I&#8217;m a decent cyclist, keep my bike in good condition, wear a helmet, know where and when to be looking for cross traffic, and STILL feel like I&#8217;m going to get plowed over every time I&#8217;m there.</p>
<p>(And that&#8217;s not even mentioning the potholes, construction barricades, etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: Denton Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denton Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with those who find the spike in cyclist deaths to be (1) due to more bikes or (b) insignificant. 

Note the number of motorcyclist deaths, which has increased exactly 50%, hardly insignificant. I haven&#039;t noticed any great increase in motorcyclists either. 

Since cyclists and bikers suffer from the same lack of visibility vis a vis dumb drivers, I would have to conclude that more worse drivers are in the city.

Denton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with those who find the spike in cyclist deaths to be (1) due to more bikes or (b) insignificant. </p>
<p>Note the number of motorcyclist deaths, which has increased exactly 50%, hardly insignificant. I haven&#8217;t noticed any great increase in motorcyclists either. </p>
<p>Since cyclists and bikers suffer from the same lack of visibility vis a vis dumb drivers, I would have to conclude that more worse drivers are in the city.</p>
<p>Denton</p>
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		<title>By: galvo</title>
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		<dc:creator>galvo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The vehicle driver and passenger deaths are declining, there is quite a bit of new occupant features built into the newer vehicles, as air bags and curtains are required for passengers.  The problem is they do not help reduce the injury and survival rate of bicyclists or pedestrians, and many drive with no regard for the vulnerable peds/bikes outside the vehicle.
hopefully someone will plot these vehicle occupant fatalities, majority probably are on the high speed  roadways  such as the  cross Bronx exp, henry Hudson ,belt, gowanus, and queens drag racing strip. Couple after hour drunks on West Street too. There was also the guy from NJ that used a vehicle as a mass pedestrian killer that will skew the ped figure. Motorcycles are probably pretty safe, and like a bicycle, vulnerable to driver error.  The high powered 0 to 60 mph in seconds increase the fatality stats of all vehicles classified as mc including the Vespa type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vehicle driver and passenger deaths are declining, there is quite a bit of new occupant features built into the newer vehicles, as air bags and curtains are required for passengers.  The problem is they do not help reduce the injury and survival rate of bicyclists or pedestrians, and many drive with no regard for the vulnerable peds/bikes outside the vehicle.<br />
hopefully someone will plot these vehicle occupant fatalities, majority probably are on the high speed  roadways  such as the  cross Bronx exp, henry Hudson ,belt, gowanus, and queens drag racing strip. Couple after hour drunks on West Street too. There was also the guy from NJ that used a vehicle as a mass pedestrian killer that will skew the ped figure. Motorcycles are probably pretty safe, and like a bicycle, vulnerable to driver error.  The high powered 0 to 60 mph in seconds increase the fatality stats of all vehicles classified as mc including the Vespa type.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn McAnanama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn McAnanama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MFS: See first comment on the absolute number vs. per mile vs. per trip as best estimate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MFS: See first comment on the absolute number vs. per mile vs. per trip as best estimate.</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
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		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mfs--most investigators would not consider a reduction shown to a 98% confidence level to be significant.  And as you point out, there are so many potential confounders that it probably obscures more than it reveals to compute a confidence interval on this data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mfs&#8211;most investigators would not consider a reduction shown to a 98% confidence level to be significant.  And as you point out, there are so many potential confounders that it probably obscures more than it reveals to compute a confidence interval on this data.</p>
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		<title>By: mfs</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, I forgot to say &quot;all other things being equal&quot;.  so if, as Michael1, points out, there are  more bikers in 2007 than other years, then the pure fatality rate is not a good measure of biking danger.  a better measure would be fatalities per biker-mile traveled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, I forgot to say &#8220;all other things being equal&#8221;.  so if, as Michael1, points out, there are  more bikers in 2007 than other years, then the pure fatality rate is not a good measure of biking danger.  a better measure would be fatalities per biker-mile traveled.</p>
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		<title>By: mfs</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie D-
Yes there is.  23 biker fatalities is statistically significant at the 98% confidence level and 136 ped fatalities is significant at the 99.5% confidence level.</description>
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Yes there is.  23 biker fatalities is statistically significant at the 98% confidence level and 136 ped fatalities is significant at the 99.5% confidence level.</p>
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