Comments on: Traffic Calming Animation of the Day: The Chicane http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:01:47 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Reese Sumner http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/comment-page-1/#comment-43495 Reese Sumner Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:36:00 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/#comment-43495 Hmm - so applying this same philosophy to say... hardening of the arteries, we would have much improved patients if they just ate a pound or more of butter a day... because happy arteries (i.e. calmer) are clogged arteries. Have to bounce this off my GP during my next visit. (Maybe that's why the waits are so long - he got "traffic calmed"). Puh-lease! Hmm - so applying this same philosophy to say... hardening of the arteries, we would have much improved patients if they just ate a pound or more of butter a day... because happy arteries (i.e. calmer) are clogged arteries.
Have to bounce this off my GP during my next visit. (Maybe that's why the waits are so long - he got "traffic calmed").
Puh-lease!

]]> By: Ian D http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/comment-page-1/#comment-43216 Ian D Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:43:30 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/#comment-43216 But on really hot sunny days, does the chicane start to melt and get all squishy? :) But on really hot sunny days, does the chicane start to melt and get all squishy?

:)

]]> By: flp http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/comment-page-1/#comment-43204 flp Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:13:37 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/#comment-43204 yes, that definitely is the case at the corner/start of the block, but further down there is another narrowing of the street/widening of the sidewalk. do neckdowns by definition only apply to corners or also to the middle of a block? yes, that definitely is the case at the corner/start of the block, but further down there is another narrowing of the street/widening of the sidewalk. do neckdowns by definition only apply to corners or also to the middle of a block?

]]> By: Aaron Naparstek http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/comment-page-1/#comment-43194 Aaron Naparstek Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:58:48 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/#comment-43194 Flp, That looks like a "neckdown" or "sidewalk extension" with a textured crosswalk right there, not a "chicane." But thanks for pointing it out. I wonder how that particular street design came about. Flp,

That looks like a "neckdown" or "sidewalk extension" with a textured crosswalk right there, not a "chicane." But thanks for pointing it out. I wonder how that particular street design came about.

]]> By: v http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/comment-page-1/#comment-43189 v Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:47:17 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/#comment-43189 another gem from epress. another gem from epress.

]]> By: flp http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/comment-page-1/#comment-43186 flp Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:39:21 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/#comment-43186 yup, that's it! i dunno what happened to the link when i copied and pasted it (and i did use the "link to this page" button). yup, that's it! i dunno what happened to the link when i copied and pasted it (and i did use the "link to this page" button).

]]> By: Angus Grieve-Smith http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/comment-page-1/#comment-43170 Angus Grieve-Smith Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:05:41 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/#comment-43170 Flp, I think this is the location you want: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=west+94th+street+new+york+city&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=31.701751,59.238281&ie=UTF8&om=0&layer=c&cbll=40.792703,-73.971198&cbp=1,478.992515580278,,0&ll=40.796641,-73.969059&spn=0.007683,0.020084&z=16 Flp, I think this is the location you want:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=west+94th+street+new+york+city&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=31.701751,59.238281&ie=UTF8&om=0&layer=c&cbll=40.792703,-73.971198&cbp=1,478.992515580278,,0&ll=40.796641,-73.969059&spn=0.007683,0.020084&z=16

]]> By: Clarence Eckerson Jr. http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/comment-page-1/#comment-43168 Clarence Eckerson Jr. Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:31:32 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/#comment-43168 Actually, I just realize I walk pass there almost every time in Queens. Thanks for pointing out. I haven't seen the trash there yet but know the curb extensions you are referring to. Thanks. Actually, I just realize I walk pass there almost every time in Queens.

Thanks for pointing out. I haven't seen the trash there yet but know the curb extensions you are referring to.

Thanks.

]]> By: EWF http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/comment-page-1/#comment-43165 EWF Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:57:56 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/#comment-43165 Carrie & Clarence - I believe you sort of have that situation on 82nd St in Jackson Heights - curb extensions being used for amenities (I think they have benches & trash cans). Could be used for trash pickup as well. Carrie & Clarence - I believe you sort of have that situation on 82nd St in Jackson Heights - curb extensions being used for amenities (I think they have benches & trash cans). Could be used for trash pickup as well.

]]> By: flp http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/comment-page-1/#comment-43164 flp Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:30:57 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/#comment-43164 wrong link. here is the correct one (hope this works): http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=west+94th+street+new+york+city&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=31.701751,59.238281&ie=UTF8&ll=40.796593,-73.971119&spn=0.007391,0.014462&z=16&om=0&layer=c&cbll=40.794375,-73.971136&cbp=1,360,,0,1.7121630312219764 wrong link. here is the correct one (hope this works):

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=west+94th+street+new+york+city&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=31.701751,59.238281&ie=UTF8&ll=40.796593,-73.971119&spn=0.007391,0.014462&z=16&om=0&layer=c&cbll=40.794375,-73.971136&cbp=1,360,,0,1.7121630312219764

]]> By: flp http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/comment-page-1/#comment-43163 flp Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:29:02 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/#comment-43163 indeed that is a sweet little video. it reminds me of w94th street between amsterdam and columbus, though the actual construction probably does not qualify as a chicane. go the following link, look at the street view, rotate to look east and click on the forward facing arrow to take a virtual tour: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl indeed that is a sweet little video.

it reminds me of w94th street between amsterdam and columbus, though the actual construction probably does not qualify as a chicane. go the following link, look at the street view, rotate to look east and click on the forward facing arrow to take a virtual tour:

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

]]> By: Clarence Eckerson Jr. http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/comment-page-1/#comment-43149 Clarence Eckerson Jr. Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:40:12 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/#comment-43149 Carrie m, What a great benefit to think about. Never have seen that! Carrie m,

What a great benefit to think about. Never have seen that!

]]> By: Josh http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/comment-page-1/#comment-43147 Josh Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:21:55 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/#comment-43147 Cute video. I'd be a little nervous that people would just try to drive as fast as they're accustomed to driving regardless of the curvature, though, and wind up getting in accidents. Cute video. I'd be a little nervous that people would just try to drive as fast as they're accustomed to driving regardless of the curvature, though, and wind up getting in accidents.

]]> By: carrie m http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/comment-page-1/#comment-43142 carrie m Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:53:12 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/#comment-43142 Another possible benefit: chicanes could aid in trash collection. See: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/07/17/answers-from-the-garbage-expert/ <I>Benjamin Miller: It would take a major rethinking of our parking arrangements-- and perhaps of our union agreements for the number of workers per truck--but if the equivalent of one or two parking spaces, per apartment building, were reserved for sanitation collections for a few hours a few times a week, we might be able to dramatically reduce our rat population, our collection costs, and our worker injuries. And if we are going to think that expansively about how we might use our streetscape, we might go even further, to imagine a few parking spaces per building permanently turned into "eco-spaces," with islands bulging into the streets to calm traffic, with plantings to absorb rainfall that would otherwise flow into the sewers and to absorb carbon dioxide and release oxygen, perhaps with small-scale rat-proofed composting receptacles, or igloos for depositing recyclables, or ...the mind reels. Another possible benefit: chicanes could aid in trash collection.

See:
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/07/17/answers-from-the-garbage-expert/

Benjamin Miller: It would take a major rethinking of our parking arrangements-- and perhaps of our union agreements for the number of workers per truck--but if the equivalent of one or two parking spaces, per apartment building, were reserved for sanitation collections for a few hours a few times a week, we might be able to dramatically reduce our rat population, our collection costs, and our worker injuries.

And if we are going to think that expansively about how we might use our streetscape, we might go even further, to imagine a few parking spaces per building permanently turned into "eco-spaces," with islands bulging into the streets to calm traffic, with plantings to absorb rainfall that would otherwise flow into the sewers and to absorb carbon dioxide and release oxygen, perhaps with small-scale rat-proofed composting receptacles, or igloos for depositing recyclables, or ...the mind reels.

]]> By: Eric http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/comment-page-1/#comment-43136 Eric Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:03:31 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/17/traffic-calming-animation-of-the-day-the-chicane/#comment-43136 Nice! I was half-expecting to see Wallace & Grommet make a cameo. Nice! I was half-expecting to see Wallace & Grommet make a cameo.

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