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	<title>Comments on: What if DOT Simply Forgot to Open the Parks to Traffic?</title>
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		<title>By: Albert Ahronheim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Ahronheim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I defer to the man responsible for the whole car-free Central Park campaign itself.  As usual, he&#039;s always thinking, and I&#039;d say he&#039;s convinced me.

Blinking lights could certainly be another good experiment to try, and I hope DOT goes for it.  Anything that could keep pedestrians from incorrectly assuming that bicycles will stop at lights meant for cars is a step in the right direction.  And if it has the added benefit of alerting those bicycle racers that think the loop is their own personal velodrome to be careful of and courteous to other legitimate park users, then it might not be a waste of bulbs.

But I think it&#039;s important that the number of lights be kept to a well thought-out minimum -- the lights placed only where they&#039;re really relevant, so that they call attention to themselves as &quot;Actually Important&quot; -- otherwise, eventually they&#039;re likely to be ignored like the boy who cried &quot;Wolf!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I defer to the man responsible for the whole car-free Central Park campaign itself.  As usual, he's always thinking, and I'd say he's convinced me.</p>
<p>Blinking lights could certainly be another good experiment to try, and I hope DOT goes for it.  Anything that could keep pedestrians from incorrectly assuming that bicycles will stop at lights meant for cars is a step in the right direction.  And if it has the added benefit of alerting those bicycle racers that think the loop is their own personal velodrome to be careful of and courteous to other legitimate park users, then it might not be a waste of bulbs.</p>
<p>But I think it's important that the number of lights be kept to a well thought-out minimum -- the lights placed only where they're really relevant, so that they call attention to themselves as "Actually Important" -- otherwise, eventually they're likely to be ignored like the boy who cried "Wolf!"</p>
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		<title>By: beng722</title>
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		<dc:creator>beng722</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is great news and I hope it happens again next year...when, in addition, the policy allowing the seasonal shopping malls that are created each year in Bryant Park, Union Square and the Columbus Circle entrance to CP (among, no doubt, many other NYC Park locales) is also reviewed...and changed.   I think if you were to ask tourists and residents alike if they&#039;d prefer a park or the commercial venture so many parks become during the holidays that most would respond that they&#039;d prefer a park.  For quite a few years now, getting into CP via Columbus Circle during the holidays has been a jarring experience - just the opposite of an escape from the commercialism of city life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is great news and I hope it happens again next year...when, in addition, the policy allowing the seasonal shopping malls that are created each year in Bryant Park, Union Square and the Columbus Circle entrance to CP (among, no doubt, many other NYC Park locales) is also reviewed...and changed.   I think if you were to ask tourists and residents alike if they'd prefer a park or the commercial venture so many parks become during the holidays that most would respond that they'd prefer a park.  For quite a few years now, getting into CP via Columbus Circle during the holidays has been a jarring experience - just the opposite of an escape from the commercialism of city life!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to differ with the man responsible for more people signing the car-free Central Park petition than any other mortal, but I prefer Glenn&#039;s idea of blinking lights (I think red is best), and I in fact proposed this to the Parks Dept. at a meeting three months ago and they seemed receptive, and a DOT guy at the meeting said it was doable.  

What is needed is SOMETHING to reduce cyclist/pedestrian conflicts at crosswalks on the loop.  Cyclists need a signal that they can&#039;t just blow on by at 25 mph, a warning that there is a potential hazard ahead.  At the same time, expecting cyclists and other recreators to scrupulously observe traffic signals made for cars is unrealistic.  We&#039;ll see if Parks/DOT ever actually follows through on my suggestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to differ with the man responsible for more people signing the car-free Central Park petition than any other mortal, but I prefer Glenn's idea of blinking lights (I think red is best), and I in fact proposed this to the Parks Dept. at a meeting three months ago and they seemed receptive, and a DOT guy at the meeting said it was doable.  </p>
<p>What is needed is SOMETHING to reduce cyclist/pedestrian conflicts at crosswalks on the loop.  Cyclists need a signal that they can't just blow on by at 25 mph, a warning that there is a potential hazard ahead.  At the same time, expecting cyclists and other recreators to scrupulously observe traffic signals made for cars is unrealistic.  We'll see if Parks/DOT ever actually follows through on my suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Ahronheim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Ahronheim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks and kudos as usual, Ken!  Excellent group psychology experiment that turned out as we all might&#039;ve expected.

Regarding Glenn&#039;s suggestion about the unnecessary traffic lights in the park.  Rather than program these lights to blink during car-free hours, for years I&#039;ve been wondering how much energy (and dollars) would be saved if those useless, misleading, car-enabling stoplights would simply *be turned off altogether* during hours when cars are officially banned from the park.  This would actually be a lot more than 10-12 hrs/day (for all but the SE corner of the loop).  Has anyone ever actually done a count of bulbs used and watts wasted during the (north-)east loop&#039;s actual 7PM-3PM car-free hours (20 hrs/day) and the west loop&#039;s 7PM-8AM &amp; 10AM-3PM car-free hours (16 hrs/day)?  And don&#039;t forget the 72nd st. crossover&#039;s additional 4 car-free hours from 3-7PM and the entire loop&#039;s 7PM Friday to 8AM Monday car-free hours.  I assume it would only be a drop in the city&#039;s bucket, but out of a few billions drops -- especially such tasty symbolic ones -- we could be talkin&#039; real savings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks and kudos as usual, Ken!  Excellent group psychology experiment that turned out as we all might've expected.</p>
<p>Regarding Glenn's suggestion about the unnecessary traffic lights in the park.  Rather than program these lights to blink during car-free hours, for years I've been wondering how much energy (and dollars) would be saved if those useless, misleading, car-enabling stoplights would simply *be turned off altogether* during hours when cars are officially banned from the park.  This would actually be a lot more than 10-12 hrs/day (for all but the SE corner of the loop).  Has anyone ever actually done a count of bulbs used and watts wasted during the (north-)east loop's actual 7PM-3PM car-free hours (20 hrs/day) and the west loop's 7PM-8AM &amp; 10AM-3PM car-free hours (16 hrs/day)?  And don't forget the 72nd st. crossover's additional 4 car-free hours from 3-7PM and the entire loop's 7PM Friday to 8AM Monday car-free hours.  I assume it would only be a drop in the city's bucket, but out of a few billions drops -- especially such tasty symbolic ones -- we could be talkin' real savings!</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
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		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CV, like it or not, Central, Prospect and Riverside Parks, and the Hudson River Greenway, allow bike access.  They are also major tourist attractions (at least CP and the Greenway are).  And though I often find tourists irritating, they bring lots of cash into the city so I&#039;m ready to share the parks with them. And I didn&#039;t say anything about bikes on the pedestrian-only pathways; I&#039;m merely suggesting their use on the designated bike network within the parks.  Plus I have noticed a number of  European tourists riding bikes in CP who ride more safely than the native NY fitness guys whizzing aroudn the loop.

So sorry, but we&#039;ve all got to share!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CV, like it or not, Central, Prospect and Riverside Parks, and the Hudson River Greenway, allow bike access.  They are also major tourist attractions (at least CP and the Greenway are).  And though I often find tourists irritating, they bring lots of cash into the city so I'm ready to share the parks with them. And I didn't say anything about bikes on the pedestrian-only pathways; I'm merely suggesting their use on the designated bike network within the parks.  Plus I have noticed a number of  European tourists riding bikes in CP who ride more safely than the native NY fitness guys whizzing aroudn the loop.</p>
<p>So sorry, but we've all got to share!</p>
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		<title>By: C Vaux</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Vaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no, no, no bike share in Central Park. The existing bike rental creates enough chaos and crashes as it is with wrong way tourists careening into cyclists and runners on the loop. There are about a bajillion people trying to use the park drives and paths for every activity under the sun. Anyway bikes are not supposed to be on the paths, which are intended to be safe spaces for people to stroll. Take your bike share elsewhere please --- and please not to Prospect, Riverside, or the Hudson River Greenway either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no, no, no bike share in Central Park. The existing bike rental creates enough chaos and crashes as it is with wrong way tourists careening into cyclists and runners on the loop. There are about a bajillion people trying to use the park drives and paths for every activity under the sun. Anyway bikes are not supposed to be on the paths, which are intended to be safe spaces for people to stroll. Take your bike share elsewhere please --- and please not to Prospect, Riverside, or the Hudson River Greenway either.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Ken for his continued vigilance on this topic and his increasing success!! I personally love the extension of car-free hours to 8am as I am a frequent morning user of the Park. 

Friendly Note to DOT: One thing that really irks me is those traffic lights. If they are only in use for 10-12 hours a day, can they just go to blinking yellow or red? During the other 150 hours the lights are completely ignored by the &quot;official&quot; vehicles of various designations that roam the Park and taken somewhat seriously by infrequent visitors. It would be better IMHO to have a &quot;yield to pedestrian&quot; sign or signal of some sort. 

Here&#039;s to our Parks being true place of quiet contemplation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Ken for his continued vigilance on this topic and his increasing success!! I personally love the extension of car-free hours to 8am as I am a frequent morning user of the Park. </p>
<p>Friendly Note to DOT: One thing that really irks me is those traffic lights. If they are only in use for 10-12 hours a day, can they just go to blinking yellow or red? During the other 150 hours the lights are completely ignored by the "official" vehicles of various designations that roam the Park and taken somewhat seriously by infrequent visitors. It would be better IMHO to have a "yield to pedestrian" sign or signal of some sort. </p>
<p>Here's to our Parks being true place of quiet contemplation!</p>
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		<title>By: ddartley</title>
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		<dc:creator>ddartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Open a park to traffic?  Why on earth would we do that?  Is there a natural disaster from which to flee or something?</description>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
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		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great add-on to a car-free summer in CP and PP would be a velolib trial like that underway for Governors Island.  Have T.A. and the City print up a booklet with maps, destinations and bike amenities (oh, wait, there aren&#039;t any).  Use the booklet to sell touring families on spending a day or more exploring the park by bike.  The various attractions could be organized into a series of suggested one-day tours with various cultural, recreational, and famly-oriented themes. Package the bike rental with reduced admission to the Zoo, AMNH, etc.  The program would be wildly successful, not only among out of towners, but NYers arriving at the park via public transportation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great add-on to a car-free summer in CP and PP would be a velolib trial like that underway for Governors Island.  Have T.A. and the City print up a booklet with maps, destinations and bike amenities (oh, wait, there aren't any).  Use the booklet to sell touring families on spending a day or more exploring the park by bike.  The various attractions could be organized into a series of suggested one-day tours with various cultural, recreational, and famly-oriented themes. Package the bike rental with reduced admission to the Zoo, AMNH, etc.  The program would be wildly successful, not only among out of towners, but NYers arriving at the park via public transportation.</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know what would look good instead of that asphalt pavement?

Grass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know what would look good instead of that asphalt pavement?</p>
<p>Grass.</p>
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		<title>By: Next Year</title>
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		<dc:creator>Next Year</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howabout next year do a real car-free holiday season? As in, no cars in the parks. DOT can build on the car free summer we are all looking forward too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howabout next year do a real car-free holiday season? As in, no cars in the parks. DOT can build on the car free summer we are all looking forward too.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great step in the right direction. The point is demonstrated over and over: making our parks places for people doesn&#039;t result in any worsening of the traffic in the surrounding areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great step in the right direction. The point is demonstrated over and over: making our parks places for people doesn't result in any worsening of the traffic in the surrounding areas.</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
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		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second, Clarence.  And although I miss running into Ken canvassing motorists on the loop during my morning commute, I think the &quot;negative canvass&quot; approach to studying the impact of car free hours in the park exemplified in the post (i.e., few or no complaints, lots of volunteered praise) has yielded an accurate result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second, Clarence.  And although I miss running into Ken canvassing motorists on the loop during my morning commute, I think the "negative canvass" approach to studying the impact of car free hours in the park exemplified in the post (i.e., few or no complaints, lots of volunteered praise) has yielded an accurate result.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lem, good point.  Must have been wishful thinking on my part.  

Clarence, lol and thanks for the mad props!  I nominate &quot;It&#039;s All Over Now, Baby Blue&quot; for the kickoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lem, good point.  Must have been wishful thinking on my part.  </p>
<p>Clarence, lol and thanks for the mad props!  I nominate "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" for the kickoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarence Eckerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clarence Eckerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A shout out to author Ken Coughlin, who has worked harder than anyone to make our parks car-free.   When they are truly car-free, hopefully we can all pitch in and buy Ken a new guitar that he can sing Dylan on at the kick off ceremony.  Anyways...thanks for everything Ken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A shout out to author Ken Coughlin, who has worked harder than anyone to make our parks car-free.   When they are truly car-free, hopefully we can all pitch in and buy Ken a new guitar that he can sing Dylan on at the kick off ceremony.  Anyways...thanks for everything Ken.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Naparstek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Naparstek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lem, you&#039;re right. I changed it a bit:

&quot;people who noticed that weekday car-free hours in Central and Prospect Parks remained intact during the holidays and were pleased.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lem, you're right. I changed it a bit:</p>
<p>"people who noticed that weekday car-free hours in Central and Prospect Parks remained intact during the holidays and were pleased."</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
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		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If DoT simply forgot to open the parks to traffic, the motorists would wait a few minutes at the gated entry point, then get out of their cars, move the barrier, and drive into the park.  Just like they do beginning at ~7:30 a.m. at the Central Park North and W. 96th St. entrances to Park Loop Road every weekday morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If DoT simply forgot to open the parks to traffic, the motorists would wait a few minutes at the gated entry point, then get out of their cars, move the barrier, and drive into the park.  Just like they do beginning at ~7:30 a.m. at the Central Park North and W. 96th St. entrances to Park Loop Road every weekday morning.</p>
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		<title>By: Lem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the little gift DOT. But the parks were not nearly car-free. They were on the same weekday schedule as the rest of the year. The roadways were very open to traffic in the peak directions during the peak periods. 

This statement from your article is misleading.
&quot;people who noticed that both Central and Prospect Park remained car-free during the holidays and were pleased.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the little gift DOT. But the parks were not nearly car-free. They were on the same weekday schedule as the rest of the year. The roadways were very open to traffic in the peak directions during the peak periods. </p>
<p>This statement from your article is misleading.<br />
"people who noticed that both Central and Prospect Park remained car-free during the holidays and were pleased."</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More evidence that the usual groundswell of &quot;furious motorists&quot; is merely a media plot, based on people&#039;s second-hand reactions.

e.g. Q: &quot;Ms. Motorist, aren&#039;t you furious that this year the city is closing the Central Park loop, which is funded by your tax dollars, to traffic during the most congested days of the year, when people could really use the relief?&quot; 
A: Grrr!

as opposed to...

Q: &quot;Ms. Gothamite, aren&#039;t you pleased that this year the city is opening the Central Park loop, which is funded by your tax dollars, to tourists and city-dwellers alike in order to celebrate the holiday season by strolling or cycling in New York City&#039;s most beautiful park?&quot;
A: Great!

Fantastic job, DOT and TA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More evidence that the usual groundswell of "furious motorists" is merely a media plot, based on people's second-hand reactions.</p>
<p>e.g. Q: "Ms. Motorist, aren't you furious that this year the city is closing the Central Park loop, which is funded by your tax dollars, to traffic during the most congested days of the year, when people could really use the relief?"<br />
A: Grrr!</p>
<p>as opposed to...</p>
<p>Q: "Ms. Gothamite, aren't you pleased that this year the city is opening the Central Park loop, which is funded by your tax dollars, to tourists and city-dwellers alike in order to celebrate the holiday season by strolling or cycling in New York City's most beautiful park?"<br />
A: Great!</p>
<p>Fantastic job, DOT and TA!</p>
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