Comments on: At P.S. 161 in Harlem the Sidewalk is the Parking Lot http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:40:14 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: glennQ http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/comment-page-1/#comment-42890 glennQ Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:36:49 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/#comment-42890 I agree; those cars should be ticketed and towed... My car would be if I decided to park on a sidewalk. Look at those cars though... With the exception of that M-B SUV, it is Hyundi, Kia... econo-box galore. Those teachers are not getting rich teaching kids in Harlem... I agree; those cars should be ticketed and towed... My car would be if I decided to park on a sidewalk.
Look at those cars though... With the exception of that M-B SUV, it is Hyundi, Kia... econo-box galore. Those teachers are not getting rich teaching kids in Harlem...

]]> By: bikecommuter http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/comment-page-1/#comment-42801 bikecommuter Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:44:55 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/#comment-42801 Walk past any police precinct and see that it's not just teachers--cops are all over the side walk as well. The teachers whose vehicles are in the pictures above appear to make some sort of effort to keep a large portion of the sidewalk clear. Around the police station at 182nd and Broadway, even sidewalk ramps are blocked by the police. Walk past any police precinct and see that it's not just teachers--cops are all over the side walk as well. The teachers whose vehicles are in the pictures above appear to make some sort of effort to keep a large portion of the sidewalk clear. Around the police station at 182nd and Broadway, even sidewalk ramps are blocked by the police.

]]> By: rhubarbpie http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/comment-page-1/#comment-42640 rhubarbpie Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:22:58 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/#comment-42640 There is really no defending this. This school is within very easy walking distance of the 1, which has pretty frequent service, and the B & C, as JF noted. If the rules were enforced, I'm sure that many of the teachers and other employees who drive in would easily manage on mass transit. I'm wondering if any of the teachers who read this -- assuming there are a few -- have thoughts about how to constructively change the thinking at individual schools (rather than at the union, which will take a ton of work, though it's important) so that principals and teachers are better citizens when it comes to this kind of illegal behavior. There is really no defending this. This school is within very easy walking distance of the 1, which has pretty frequent service, and the B & C, as JF noted. If the rules were enforced, I'm sure that many of the teachers and other employees who drive in would easily manage on mass transit.

I'm wondering if any of the teachers who read this -- assuming there are a few -- have thoughts about how to constructively change the thinking at individual schools (rather than at the union, which will take a ton of work, though it's important) so that principals and teachers are better citizens when it comes to this kind of illegal behavior.

]]> By: mork http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/comment-page-1/#comment-42597 mork Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:23:27 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/#comment-42597 Fine role models for our children. Fine role models for our children.

]]> By: mork http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/comment-page-1/#comment-42596 mork Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:22:47 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/#comment-42596 Fine role models for our children. These teachers should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. Fine role models for our children.

These teachers should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.

]]> By: JF http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/comment-page-1/#comment-42575 JF Wed, 09 Jan 2008 00:39:32 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/#comment-42575 Thanks, Rich! Here's the Google Map of that area: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&q=P.S.+161&near=Manhattan,+New+York&fb=1&cid=40817587,-73953180,8533805993348470297&li=lmd&ll=40.818649,-73.95318&spn=0.007681,0.020084&z=16&om=1 You can see that it's a few blocks from the 125th and 137th Street stations on the #1 train and the 135th Street station on the B/C. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these teachers live a few blocks from other stops on these very train lines in Riverdale, Washington Heights or the Upper West Side. Thanks, Rich! Here's the Google Map of that area:

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&q=P.S.+161&near=Manhattan,+New+York&fb=1&cid=40817587,-73953180,8533805993348470297&li=lmd&ll=40.818649,-73.95318&spn=0.007681,0.020084&z=16&om=1

You can see that it's a few blocks from the 125th and 137th Street stations on the #1 train and the 135th Street station on the B/C.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of these teachers live a few blocks from other stops on these very train lines in Riverdale, Washington Heights or the Upper West Side.

]]> By: BicyclesOnly http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/comment-page-1/#comment-42546 BicyclesOnly Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:24:32 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/#comment-42546 Thanks for sending these along Richard. I posted a few myself this morning, though they were curbside violations, not the more serious sidewalk parking you encountered: http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/3575 Weingarten doesn't know what she is talking about. Thanks for sending these along Richard. I posted a few myself this morning, though they were curbside violations, not the more serious sidewalk parking you encountered:

http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/3575

Weingarten doesn't know what she is talking about.

]]> By: srock http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/comment-page-1/#comment-42543 srock Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:26:59 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/01/08/at-ps-161-in-harlem-the-sidewalk-is-the-parking-lot/#comment-42543 Biking on the sidewalk is a misdemeanor, and bikes get clipped regularly by the NYPD when they are parked on the sidewalk (http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/06/05/nypd-raid-nets-bikes-and-bystanders/). Yet apparently cars can drive AND park on the sidewalk with no repercussions. We live in a crazy world! Biking on the sidewalk is a misdemeanor, and bikes get clipped regularly by the NYPD when they are parked on the sidewalk (http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/06/05/nypd-raid-nets-bikes-and-bystanders/). Yet apparently cars can drive AND park on the sidewalk with no repercussions. We live in a crazy world!

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