Comments on: Today’s Headlines http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/12/19/todays-headlines-306/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:31:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Cap'n Transit http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/12/19/todays-headlines-306/comment-page-1/#comment-42057 Cap'n Transit Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:50:32 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/12/19/todays-headlines-306/#comment-42057 I think the Subway Riders' Bill of Rights is <a href="http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2007/12/zeroth-right.html" rel="nofollow">missing a right</a>. I think the Subway Riders' Bill of Rights is missing a right.

]]> By: Angus Grieve-Smith http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/12/19/todays-headlines-306/comment-page-1/#comment-42056 Angus Grieve-Smith Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:50:35 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/12/19/todays-headlines-306/#comment-42056 The class system was eliminated on the Paris metro in 1991, and on the commuter trains in 1999. It still exists on long-distance trains. Jonathan, it sounds like your friend's city didn't do the control system right. If the controls are frequent enough, they only catch one or two people per train, because everyone's got a ticket, since they know they're likely to be controlled. Nobody gets really scared when the LIRR conductors come around, because they know that there's not likely to be anyone in "situation irrégulière." A Prague-style control system would make it easier for New York to unify the various ticketing systems and allow people to buy a ticket from, say, Woodside to Montclair. It would also speed up bus loading incredibly. The class system was eliminated on the Paris metro in 1991, and on the commuter trains in 1999. It still exists on long-distance trains.

Jonathan, it sounds like your friend's city didn't do the control system right. If the controls are frequent enough, they only catch one or two people per train, because everyone's got a ticket, since they know they're likely to be controlled. Nobody gets really scared when the LIRR conductors come around, because they know that there's not likely to be anyone in "situation irrégulière."

A Prague-style control system would make it easier for New York to unify the various ticketing systems and allow people to buy a ticket from, say, Woodside to Montclair. It would also speed up bus loading incredibly.

]]> By: Hilary http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/12/19/todays-headlines-306/comment-page-1/#comment-42012 Hilary Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:22:47 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/12/19/todays-headlines-306/#comment-42012 Does Paris still have first and second class cars in their metro? There's another form of congestion pricing.. Does Paris still have first and second class cars in their metro? There's another form of congestion pricing..

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/12/19/todays-headlines-306/comment-page-1/#comment-42011 Jonathan Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:16:40 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/12/19/todays-headlines-306/#comment-42011 <a href="http://snipr.com/lasubwayonnpr" rel="nofollow">NPR mentioned</a> this morning about how LA was considering going to turnstiles from the honor system. A friend of mine was listening as well and mentioned that in the European city in which she used to live, they had a honor system for transit payments there. She hated it. It was really scary, she said, when they would pull up a "control bus" to the tram and unload everyone who didn't have a ticket onto the control bus to get fined. NPR mentioned this morning about how LA was considering going to turnstiles from the honor system. A friend of mine was listening as well and mentioned that in the European city in which she used to live, they had a honor system for transit payments there. She hated it. It was really scary, she said, when they would pull up a "control bus" to the tram and unload everyone who didn't have a ticket onto the control bus to get fined.

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