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	<title>Comments on: $115 $230 Summons for NASCAR Driver #19 Elliott Sadler</title>
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		<title>By: nascar</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/28/115-summons-for-nascar-driver-19-elliott-sadler/comment-page-1/#comment-43263</link>
		<dc:creator>nascar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hope you don&#039;t really think he parked that car lmao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hope you don't really think he parked that car lmao</p>
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		<title>By: Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/28/115-summons-for-nascar-driver-19-elliott-sadler/comment-page-1/#comment-42237</link>
		<dc:creator>Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the whole, Lori, the Romans who piled into the Coliseum to watch Christians get eaten by lions were also a &quot;friendly, if rowdy bunch of people.&quot;  

These days we view the entertainment that these friendly, hard working, middle class Roman folks enjoyed as barbaric, freakish and the last gasps of a once-great world dominating culture. 

I suspect future generations of Americans will see NASCAR similarly: A lead-fueled, foreign oil-burning, air-fouling, car worshipping, death circus wrapped in cartoonish corporate logos -- the last gasps of a once dominant American car culture that just doesn&#039;t make sense anymore and can&#039;t really support itself financially or ideologically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the whole, Lori, the Romans who piled into the Coliseum to watch Christians get eaten by lions were also a "friendly, if rowdy bunch of people."  </p>
<p>These days we view the entertainment that these friendly, hard working, middle class Roman folks enjoyed as barbaric, freakish and the last gasps of a once-great world dominating culture. </p>
<p>I suspect future generations of Americans will see NASCAR similarly: A lead-fueled, foreign oil-burning, air-fouling, car worshipping, death circus wrapped in cartoonish corporate logos -- the last gasps of a once dominant American car culture that just doesn't make sense anymore and can't really support itself financially or ideologically.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/28/115-summons-for-nascar-driver-19-elliott-sadler/comment-page-1/#comment-42229</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s no wonder a lot of NASCAR folks want to move the banquet to Las Vegas. Out there the people aren&#039;t ill-tempered, rude, judgemental, and just plain mean.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m not defending Steve, and I&#039;ve never been to Vegas, but I&#039;ve been to Albuquerque, Denver, Phoenix and Flagstaff, and the people were just as ill-tempered, judgmental and mean as people in New York.

Sure, some of them covered it up with a thin veneer of politeness, but honestly that didn&#039;t help any.  I&#039;d rather be called a douchebag to my face than get screwed over with a smile by someone who&#039;s calling me a douchebag in their head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It's no wonder a lot of NASCAR folks want to move the banquet to Las Vegas. Out there the people aren't ill-tempered, rude, judgemental, and just plain mean.</p></blockquote>
<p>I'm not defending Steve, and I've never been to Vegas, but I've been to Albuquerque, Denver, Phoenix and Flagstaff, and the people were just as ill-tempered, judgmental and mean as people in New York.</p>
<p>Sure, some of them covered it up with a thin veneer of politeness, but honestly that didn't help any.  I'd rather be called a douchebag to my face than get screwed over with a smile by someone who's calling me a douchebag in their head.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/28/115-summons-for-nascar-driver-19-elliott-sadler/comment-page-1/#comment-42228</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw this...  It&#039;s no wonder a lot of NASCAR folks want to move the banquet to Las Vegas.  Out there the people aren&#039;t ill-tempered, rude, judgemental, and just plain mean.  So you want to lump NASCAR fans into one big blob and call them &quot;douchebags?&quot;  Do you think you are somehow better than they are?  On the whole, NASCAR fans are a friendly, if rowdy, bunch of people.  FRIENDLY being the operative word here.  Tell me what your hobbies are and let me judge them for you and call you names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw this...  It's no wonder a lot of NASCAR folks want to move the banquet to Las Vegas.  Out there the people aren't ill-tempered, rude, judgemental, and just plain mean.  So you want to lump NASCAR fans into one big blob and call them "douchebags?"  Do you think you are somehow better than they are?  On the whole, NASCAR fans are a friendly, if rowdy, bunch of people.  FRIENDLY being the operative word here.  Tell me what your hobbies are and let me judge them for you and call you names.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, New York won&#039;t really have made it into the top echelon of world cities until we get our NASCAR track.  I guess no one at City Hall saw the stories this week about NASCAR TV ratings declning for the first time in 10 years.

Parading these cars through NYC in the middle of Gridlock Hell Week is just one more example of City Hall&#039;s schizophrenia.  PlaNYC vs. paving a Bronx park for Yankee Stadium.  Congestion pricing vs. Atlantic Yards.  For every good action, it seems they&#039;re compelled to promote an equal and opposite boneheaded action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, New York won't really have made it into the top echelon of world cities until we get our NASCAR track.  I guess no one at City Hall saw the stories this week about NASCAR TV ratings declning for the first time in 10 years.</p>
<p>Parading these cars through NYC in the middle of Gridlock Hell Week is just one more example of City Hall's schizophrenia.  PlaNYC vs. paving a Bronx park for Yankee Stadium.  Congestion pricing vs. Atlantic Yards.  For every good action, it seems they're compelled to promote an equal and opposite boneheaded action.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Naparstek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Naparstek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, hah. I think I see what you&#039;re saying. This is an old red Dodge #19 that belonged to Mayfield. Sadler is driving a different red Dodge #19 these days. I guess it&#039;s obvious now that I&#039;m not a big NASCAR fan. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, hah. I think I see what you're saying. This is an old red Dodge #19 that belonged to Mayfield. Sadler is driving a different red Dodge #19 these days. I guess it's obvious now that I'm not a big NASCAR fan.</p>
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		<title>By: #19 ROCKS</title>
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		<dc:creator>#19 ROCKS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elliott Sadler is nowhere near New York this week - and besides, this car predates him, this is Jeremy Mayfield&#039;s car, so blame it on him!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elliott Sadler is nowhere near New York this week - and besides, this car predates him, this is Jeremy Mayfield's car, so blame it on him!!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve (not #4)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve (not #4)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I read Lee Sander too!  As for the City discoutaging driving, have to give JSK and DoT credit for NOT implementing holiday traffic mitigation in Central Park.  I see no evidence that car-free hours on the CP Loop have been or will be lifted--in contrast to last year, when they were lifted from mid-Nov. through early Jan.  Check your 2007 NYC bike map, which announces the change which apparently will not be implemented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I read Lee Sander too!  As for the City discoutaging driving, have to give JSK and DoT credit for NOT implementing holiday traffic mitigation in Central Park.  I see no evidence that car-free hours on the CP Loop have been or will be lifted--in contrast to last year, when they were lifted from mid-Nov. through early Jan.  Check your 2007 NYC bike map, which announces the change which apparently will not be implemented.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>further proof that NASCAR is of and for douchebags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>further proof that NASCAR is of and for douchebags.</p>
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		<title>By: brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t know how active the city is in “discouraging driving” this holiday season. Its more like hollow gestures to discourage driving. Just go a few blocks up from where this pic was shot to 6th near Radio City Music Hall. The sidewalk is MOBBED. There are hundreds upon hundreds of pedestrians crammed onto the sidewalk. Yet parked (and double parked) next to the sidewalk are a dozen or so cars making a nice posh and roomy density for motorists. There are barricades to stop people from walking onto the street. There is a huge presence of traffic cops, but are they there to slow down the cars or enforce speeding or running red lights? Nope- they are there to make sure pedestrians don’t escape from the cages when the cars have the light. It boils down to the obvious fact that they are there to make sure the tourists don’t interrupt the smooth flow of vehicle traffic. Would it ever occur to anyone to close down a lane or two on 5th and 6th to cars during the holiday season for pedestrians to use? Just think of much the increased foot traffic would help the Gap and H&amp;M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know how active the city is in “discouraging driving” this holiday season. Its more like hollow gestures to discourage driving. Just go a few blocks up from where this pic was shot to 6th near Radio City Music Hall. The sidewalk is MOBBED. There are hundreds upon hundreds of pedestrians crammed onto the sidewalk. Yet parked (and double parked) next to the sidewalk are a dozen or so cars making a nice posh and roomy density for motorists. There are barricades to stop people from walking onto the street. There is a huge presence of traffic cops, but are they there to slow down the cars or enforce speeding or running red lights? Nope- they are there to make sure pedestrians don’t escape from the cages when the cars have the light. It boils down to the obvious fact that they are there to make sure the tourists don’t interrupt the smooth flow of vehicle traffic. Would it ever occur to anyone to close down a lane or two on 5th and 6th to cars during the holiday season for pedestrians to use? Just think of much the increased foot traffic would help the Gap and H&amp;M.</p>
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		<title>By: steveo</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I had to read this, like, 8 times before it stopped saying &quot;Elliot Sander&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I had to read this, like, 8 times before it stopped saying "Elliot Sander"</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make that $230 -- he&#039;s also parked in front of a hydrant.</description>
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