Comments on: Congestion Panel Meets Amidst Q Poll Parsing http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/20/congestion-panel-meets-as-both-sides-parse-q-poll/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:07:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Niccolo Machiavelli http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/20/congestion-panel-meets-as-both-sides-parse-q-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-40640 Niccolo Machiavelli Fri, 23 Nov 2007 03:17:46 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/20/congestion-panel-meets-as-both-sides-parse-q-poll/#comment-40640 Well Spud, correct me if I am wrong, and I often am, but what the Mayor proposed is no longer on the table. What the commission is tasked with is to create specific legislation that the City Council then the Assembly and everyone else, must endorse. What that is is yet unseen and unknown. I didn't like elements of PlaNYC myself and probably would have opposed it had I ever been given a chance to vote on it. However, that is not what is going to be laid in front of the legislature and the City Council. I hear some specific objections that I thought had a lot of juice. Most important was that the Mayor's plan did not dedicate the money to the MTA. That was one of my chief beefs with what the Mayor had proposed. Fix that, and although I have a couple other parochial objections, you will get my vote (if I had one). What your specific objections are to funding mass transit with savings from eliminating congestion for the moment elude me. But it is late on Thanksgiving an I have had a few glasses of wine. Maybe it will come to me. Well Spud, correct me if I am wrong, and I often am, but what the Mayor proposed is no longer on the table. What the commission is tasked with is to create specific legislation that the City Council then the Assembly and everyone else, must endorse. What that is is yet unseen and unknown. I didn’t like elements of PlaNYC myself and probably would have opposed it had I ever been given a chance to vote on it. However, that is not what is going to be laid in front of the legislature and the City Council. I hear some specific objections that I thought had a lot of juice. Most important was that the Mayor’s plan did not dedicate the money to the MTA. That was one of my chief beefs with what the Mayor had proposed. Fix that, and although I have a couple other parochial objections, you will get my vote (if I had one). What your specific objections are to funding mass transit with savings from eliminating congestion for the moment elude me. But it is late on Thanksgiving an I have had a few glasses of wine. Maybe it will come to me.

]]> By: Chris H http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/20/congestion-panel-meets-as-both-sides-parse-q-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-40638 Chris H Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:25:03 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/20/congestion-panel-meets-as-both-sides-parse-q-poll/#comment-40638 Lew, good to see that you're back. Can you please answer my question that I posted <a href="http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/01/lew-fidlers-9-carat-stone-traffic-plan-arrives/#comment-39997" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Lew,

good to see that you’re back. Can you please answer my question that I posted here.

]]> By: Spud Spudly http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/20/congestion-panel-meets-as-both-sides-parse-q-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-40619 Spud Spudly Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:47:15 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/20/congestion-panel-meets-as-both-sides-parse-q-poll/#comment-40619 Sean Crowley's press release is ridiculous. Read it. All it says is that 57 percent of the people who chose to go to a public hearing thought that CP could possibly be good in some form or another, though most didn't like the Mayor's specific plan. And this shows what exactly? Maybe that's why I didn't see the release get picked up anywhere. Sean Crowley’s press release is ridiculous. Read it. All it says is that 57 percent of the people who chose to go to a public hearing thought that CP could possibly be good in some form or another, though most didn’t like the Mayor’s specific plan. And this shows what exactly?

Maybe that’s why I didn’t see the release get picked up anywhere.

]]> By: Angus Grieve-Smith http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/20/congestion-panel-meets-as-both-sides-parse-q-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-40617 Angus Grieve-Smith Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:35:56 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/20/congestion-panel-meets-as-both-sides-parse-q-poll/#comment-40617 <blockquote>And the analysis of who spoke in favor and who was opposed it the hearings is RIDICULOUS. I was at two of the hearings where speakers were overwhelimingly opposed. I am sure that it went down the same way in Queens.</blockquote> It really didn't. There were plenty of people opposed to the Mayor's specific plan, but they did not object to the idea of congestion pricing in general. A few people did, and there weren't too many surprises there: Rory Lancman, David Weprin, Walter Mccaffrey, Corey Bearak AND Jim Trask, and at least two members of Community Board 7. There were no elected officials who fully endorsed the plan, but there were plenty of Queens residents who spoke in favor. That includes at least three people who spoke in favor of the plan as private citizens, including myself. People really send you hate mail about this? That's stupid of them.

And the analysis of who spoke in favor and who was opposed it the hearings is RIDICULOUS. I was at two of the hearings where speakers were overwhelimingly opposed. I am sure that it went down the same way in Queens.

It really didn’t. There were plenty of people opposed to the Mayor’s specific plan, but they did not object to the idea of congestion pricing in general. A few people did, and there weren’t too many surprises there: Rory Lancman, David Weprin, Walter Mccaffrey, Corey Bearak AND Jim Trask, and at least two members of Community Board 7.

There were no elected officials who fully endorsed the plan, but there were plenty of Queens residents who spoke in favor. That includes at least three people who spoke in favor of the plan as private citizens, including myself.

People really send you hate mail about this? That’s stupid of them.

]]> By: Lew from Brooklyn http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/20/congestion-panel-meets-as-both-sides-parse-q-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-40612 Lew from Brooklyn Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:35:33 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/20/congestion-panel-meets-as-both-sides-parse-q-poll/#comment-40612 Face the facts. The poll shows that NY'ers do NOT want congestion pricing. They see it as flawed and not able to meet its objectives. And the analysis of who spoke in favor and who was opposed it the hearings is RIDICULOUS. I was at two of the hearings where speakers were overwhelimingly opposed. I am sure that it went down the same way in Queens. It's time to look at other ways to skin this cat. Regional payroll tax anyone? Subway connection for Staten Islanders perhaps? Lew from Brooklyn (On the hate email that's gonna be coming my way.....LOL) Face the facts. The poll shows that NY’ers do NOT want congestion pricing. They see it as flawed and not able to meet its objectives.

And the analysis of who spoke in favor and who was opposed it the hearings is RIDICULOUS. I was at two of the hearings where speakers were overwhelimingly opposed. I am sure that it went down the same way in Queens.

It’s time to look at other ways to skin this cat.

Regional payroll tax anyone? Subway connection for Staten Islanders perhaps?

Lew from Brooklyn

(On the hate email that’s gonna be coming my way…..LOL)

]]> By: MrManhattan http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/20/congestion-panel-meets-as-both-sides-parse-q-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-40584 MrManhattan Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:40:11 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/20/congestion-panel-meets-as-both-sides-parse-q-poll/#comment-40584 "Quinnipiac"? Isn't that a safety school for kids who couldn't get into Connecticut College? “Quinnipiac”?

Isn’t that a safety school for kids who couldn’t get into Connecticut College?

]]> By: Sean Crowley http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/20/congestion-panel-meets-as-both-sides-parse-q-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-40536 Sean Crowley Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:50:21 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/20/congestion-panel-meets-as-both-sides-parse-q-poll/#comment-40536 A new analysis shows majority of Traffic Mitigation Commission hearing witnesses suggested improvements to make congestion pricing work Check out news release at http://www.environmentaldefense.org/pressrelease.cfm?contentID=7351 Sean Crowley Marketing-Communications Director Living Cities Program Environmental Defense A new analysis shows majority of Traffic Mitigation Commission hearing witnesses suggested improvements to make congestion pricing work

Check out news release at http://www.environmentaldefense.org/pressrelease.cfm?contentID=7351

Sean Crowley
Marketing-Communications Director
Living Cities Program
Environmental Defense

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