Comments on: Upper West Siders: What Would You Fix? http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/01/upper-west-siders-its-your-neighborhood-what-would-you-fix/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:44:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Angus Grieve-Smith http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/01/upper-west-siders-its-your-neighborhood-what-would-you-fix/#comment-39572 Angus Grieve-Smith Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:44:57 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/01/upper-west-siders-its-your-neighborhood-what-would-you-fix/#comment-39572 As a former Upper West Sider who visits regularly, I think the worst pedestrian situation is West End Avenue. It's got these great wide sidewalks, but the DOT times the lights to make it into a speedway. I always feel uncomfortable crossing that street, more so than any other street in the neighborhood. As I wrote in a previous thread, the 79th Street entrance to Riverside park practically thunders at pedestrians, "I AM FOR IMPORTANT CARS. YOU ARE NOT WORTHY. RUN ALONG INTO YOUR LITTLE HOLE." I'd like to see something done about that. The appropriation of sidewalk space for car uses is bad around the police precincts and especially near the parking garages and car rental agencies on the blocks east of Broadway. Some of the sidewalks, especially on Columbus and Broadway in the 70s and 80s, are in high demand, in part because of sidewalk cafes, street vendors and, well, Fairway. As far as I'm concerned, when a restaurant has a "sidewalk cafe" that's enclosed ten months of the year, isn't that just a low-rent addition? Is that appropriate on blocks where there's so much pedestrian congestion? The only value I can see is that they get more light. That said, I'd rather widen the sidewalks than force cafe owners to give them up. Finally, this is not Jan Gehl's area, but why doesn't the M86 go all the way to Riverside Drive? It'd be a heck of a lot more useful. As a former Upper West Sider who visits regularly, I think the worst pedestrian situation is West End Avenue. It's got these great wide sidewalks, but the DOT times the lights to make it into a speedway. I always feel uncomfortable crossing that street, more so than any other street in the neighborhood.

As I wrote in a previous thread, the 79th Street entrance to Riverside park practically thunders at pedestrians, "I AM FOR IMPORTANT CARS. YOU ARE NOT WORTHY. RUN ALONG INTO YOUR LITTLE HOLE." I'd like to see something done about that.

The appropriation of sidewalk space for car uses is bad around the police precincts and especially near the parking garages and car rental agencies on the blocks east of Broadway.

Some of the sidewalks, especially on Columbus and Broadway in the 70s and 80s, are in high demand, in part because of sidewalk cafes, street vendors and, well, Fairway. As far as I'm concerned, when a restaurant has a "sidewalk cafe" that's enclosed ten months of the year, isn't that just a low-rent addition? Is that appropriate on blocks where there's so much pedestrian congestion? The only value I can see is that they get more light. That said, I'd rather widen the sidewalks than force cafe owners to give them up.

Finally, this is not Jan Gehl's area, but why doesn't the M86 go all the way to Riverside Drive? It'd be a heck of a lot more useful.

]]> By: Spud Spudly http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/01/upper-west-siders-its-your-neighborhood-what-would-you-fix/#comment-39546 Spud Spudly Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:39:12 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/01/upper-west-siders-its-your-neighborhood-what-would-you-fix/#comment-39546 In a nutshell: * Residential parking permits * Mandatory taxi stands (no trolling for customers) * More of those great sidewalk extensions like they have where 94th crosses Columbus * Better management of truck delivery schedules * And smaller cabs -- NO MORE CROWN VIC TAXIS! In a nutshell:

* Residential parking permits
* Mandatory taxi stands (no trolling for customers)
* More of those great sidewalk extensions like they have where 94th crosses Columbus
* Better management of truck delivery schedules
* And smaller cabs -- NO MORE CROWN VIC TAXIS!

]]> By: Ian Turner http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/01/upper-west-siders-its-your-neighborhood-what-would-you-fix/#comment-39538 Ian Turner Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:15:20 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/01/upper-west-siders-its-your-neighborhood-what-would-you-fix/#comment-39538 Mark, Reducing parking will make it so that fewer people are /able/ to own a car, but will do nothing to reduce the number of people who /want/ to own a car. If anything, increasing the cost of car ownership will make it more glamorous/desirable, not less. Which is not to say that I disagree -- in fact, I think we are all in agreement about these basic yet seemingly controversial changes. Mark,

Reducing parking will make it so that fewer people are /able/ to own a car, but will do nothing to reduce the number of people who /want/ to own a car. If anything, increasing the cost of car ownership will make it more glamorous/desirable, not less.

Which is not to say that I disagree -- in fact, I think we are all in agreement about these basic yet seemingly controversial changes.

]]> By: Mark Fleischmann http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/01/upper-west-siders-its-your-neighborhood-what-would-you-fix/#comment-39535 Mark Fleischmann Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:43:26 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/01/upper-west-siders-its-your-neighborhood-what-would-you-fix/#comment-39535 As I've mentioned before, the number of UWS resident drivers has increased markedly over the past 30 years, as affluent people have moved in, leading to more congestion and pollution. So the goal should be to persuade Upper West Siders to give up their cars. The best way to do that is to close a substantial percentage of the parking garages and convert on-street parking space into bus and bike lanes. If they have no place to park their cars, they will not want to own cars. Also, traffic signals at major intersections should be changed to give pedestrians more time to cross the street -- that would reduce speed, calm traffic, and give drivers another reason not to drive. Streets in a densely populated neighborhood should not operate like high-speed highways. As I've mentioned before, the number of UWS resident drivers has increased markedly over the past 30 years, as affluent people have moved in, leading to more congestion and pollution. So the goal should be to persuade Upper West Siders to give up their cars. The best way to do that is to close a substantial percentage of the parking garages and convert on-street parking space into bus and bike lanes. If they have no place to park their cars, they will not want to own cars. Also, traffic signals at major intersections should be changed to give pedestrians more time to cross the street -- that would reduce speed, calm traffic, and give drivers another reason not to drive. Streets in a densely populated neighborhood should not operate like high-speed highways.

]]> By: NewYawker http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/01/upper-west-siders-its-your-neighborhood-what-would-you-fix/#comment-39520 NewYawker Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:57:57 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/01/upper-west-siders-its-your-neighborhood-what-would-you-fix/#comment-39520 Fix? get rid of the overwhelming number of annoying people that live there? Fix? get rid of the overwhelming number of annoying people that live there?

]]> By: Gargamel Tralfaz http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/01/upper-west-siders-its-your-neighborhood-what-would-you-fix/#comment-39519 Gargamel Tralfaz Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:56:30 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/11/01/upper-west-siders-its-your-neighborhood-what-would-you-fix/#comment-39519 I'd take back a lane or two on Amsterdam and make it people space. I'd take back a lane or two on Amsterdam and make it people space.

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