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	<title>Comments on: Truck Drivers Confusing New Cycle Track for Unloading Zone</title>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/09/truck-drivers-confusing-new-cycle-track-for-unloading-zone/comment-page-2/#comment-40082</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can I when I spend all my time on this frigging blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can I when I spend all my time on this frigging blog?</p>
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		<title>By: JF</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/09/truck-drivers-confusing-new-cycle-track-for-unloading-zone/comment-page-2/#comment-40079</link>
		<dc:creator>JF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even better: why not sit at the entrance to the block &lt;i&gt;before the trucks come&lt;/i&gt;?  Be your own retractable bollard, and only let bikes and emergency vehicles in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even better: why not sit at the entrance to the block <i>before the trucks come</i>?  Be your own retractable bollard, and only let bikes and emergency vehicles in.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/09/truck-drivers-confusing-new-cycle-track-for-unloading-zone/comment-page-2/#comment-40077</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Potosi --

I wouldn&#039;t say that violence never solves anything, but in this case, the guy with the car has more powerful means of violence at his disposal; not just the big hunk of steel he&#039;s sitting in, but the police he can call.

My own fantasy would be a bit of street theater: instead sitting in front of the car, sit &lt;i&gt;behind&lt;/i&gt; it, and get others to join you, waiting for the path to be unblocked.  When the driver finally comes to move the vehicle, give him a round of sarcastic applause.

I don&#039;t seriously expect that anybody would actually do this, but that&#039;s my fantasy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Potosi &#8211;</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that violence never solves anything, but in this case, the guy with the car has more powerful means of violence at his disposal; not just the big hunk of steel he&#8217;s sitting in, but the police he can call.</p>
<p>My own fantasy would be a bit of street theater: instead sitting in front of the car, sit <i>behind</i> it, and get others to join you, waiting for the path to be unblocked.  When the driver finally comes to move the vehicle, give him a round of sarcastic applause.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t seriously expect that anybody would actually do this, but that&#8217;s my fantasy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/09/truck-drivers-confusing-new-cycle-track-for-unloading-zone/comment-page-2/#comment-40063</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Potosi, I may be a minority of one, but in my mind, violent cyclists and pedestrians do not contribute to livable streets. In addition, threatening damage to property, unlike double-parking, is a crime and can lead to your arrest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Potosi, I may be a minority of one, but in my mind, violent cyclists and pedestrians do not contribute to livable streets. In addition, threatening damage to property, unlike double-parking, is a crime and can lead to your arrest.</p>
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		<title>By: Potosi</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/09/truck-drivers-confusing-new-cycle-track-for-unloading-zone/comment-page-2/#comment-40062</link>
		<dc:creator>Potosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until the city starts enforcing keeping autos out of bike lanes, and adds bollards, the solution for moving cars is simple (if you have the time.) Just block the lane. If a car wants to be in the bike lane, make him stay there. Stand in front of him so he can&#039;t move. Most people will not run your over. I suggest you carry a hammer or a wrench with you so that if the car does tyr to come at you you can smash its window.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until the city starts enforcing keeping autos out of bike lanes, and adds bollards, the solution for moving cars is simple (if you have the time.) Just block the lane. If a car wants to be in the bike lane, make him stay there. Stand in front of him so he can&#8217;t move. Most people will not run your over. I suggest you carry a hammer or a wrench with you so that if the car does tyr to come at you you can smash its window.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/09/truck-drivers-confusing-new-cycle-track-for-unloading-zone/comment-page-2/#comment-38679</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rocketeers packed 500 letters into 2&#039; x 8&quot; cannisters to go 30 mph in an early 27-mile NYC USPS pneumatic system including Harlem, City Hall, and Brooklyn currently detailed in the main postoffice lobby downtown Brooklyn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rocketeers packed 500 letters into 2&#8242; x 8&#8243; cannisters to go 30 mph in an early 27-mile NYC USPS pneumatic system including Harlem, City Hall, and Brooklyn currently detailed in the main postoffice lobby downtown Brooklyn.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hunka</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hunka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, the new buffered bike lane on Lafayette Street is, indeed, finished.

Second, I believe we can deliver a loud &quot;wake up&quot; call to Mayor Bloomberg by deluging him with emails calling for a directive to the police department.  There is absolutely no reason why police officers in cars cannot use their turret lights and sirens on a routine basis to &quot;sweep&quot; double-parked motor vehicles from bike lanes.  If enough individuals exert constant, daily pressure on the mayor through a torrent of emails, I believe this strategy might succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, the new buffered bike lane on Lafayette Street is, indeed, finished.</p>
<p>Second, I believe we can deliver a loud &#8220;wake up&#8221; call to Mayor Bloomberg by deluging him with emails calling for a directive to the police department.  There is absolutely no reason why police officers in cars cannot use their turret lights and sirens on a routine basis to &#8220;sweep&#8221; double-parked motor vehicles from bike lanes.  If enough individuals exert constant, daily pressure on the mayor through a torrent of emails, I believe this strategy might succeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Enough ado?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enough ado?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of this talk about the clogged bike lane.. but is it even finished?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this talk about the clogged bike lane.. but is it even finished?</p>
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		<title>By: John Hunka</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hunka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Sproule!  I just sent in my daily email report to Mayor Bloomberg.  Today, I&#039;m asking him to direct every member of the NYPD who is on patrol to use the lights and sirens on police cars to clear bike lanes throughout NYC...

&quot;For the fourth consecutive day, numerous motor vehicles are double-parked in the new bike lane on Lafayette Street between Kenmare and Franklin Streets, rendering it useless to cyclists.  Please direct all police officers who are on patrol to use their turret lights and sirens to routinely clear bike lanes on Lafayette Street and throughout New York City.  Again, I thank you for installing the new bike lane.&quot;

http://www.nyc.gov/portal/site/nycgov/menuitem.bd08ee7c7c1ffec87c4b36d501c789a0/index.jsp?doc_name=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyc.gov%2Fhtml%2Fmail%2Fhtml%2Fmayor.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Sproule!  I just sent in my daily email report to Mayor Bloomberg.  Today, I&#8217;m asking him to direct every member of the NYPD who is on patrol to use the lights and sirens on police cars to clear bike lanes throughout NYC&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;For the fourth consecutive day, numerous motor vehicles are double-parked in the new bike lane on Lafayette Street between Kenmare and Franklin Streets, rendering it useless to cyclists.  Please direct all police officers who are on patrol to use their turret lights and sirens to routinely clear bike lanes on Lafayette Street and throughout New York City.  Again, I thank you for installing the new bike lane.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nyc.gov/portal/site/nycgov/menuitem.bd08ee7c7c1ffec87c4b36d501c789a0/index.jsp?doc_name=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyc.gov%2Fhtml%2Fmail%2Fhtml%2Fmayor.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyc.gov/portal/site/nycgov/menuitem.bd08ee7c7c1ffec87c4b36d501c789a0/index.jsp?doc_name=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyc.gov%2Fhtml%2Fmail%2Fhtml%2Fmayor.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sproule</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sproule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction on the last sentence of that first graph:

All it will take is an order from above and bike lanes (especially the lanes and sidewalks around my local station house at 123rd and St. Nicholas that are currently clogged with cop cars) &lt;b&gt;will  be passable&lt;b&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction on the last sentence of that first graph:</p>
<p>All it will take is an order from above and bike lanes (especially the lanes and sidewalks around my local station house at 123rd and St. Nicholas that are currently clogged with cop cars) <b>will  be passable</b><b>.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Sproule</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/09/truck-drivers-confusing-new-cycle-track-for-unloading-zone/comment-page-2/#comment-38647</link>
		<dc:creator>Sproule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That bollard video never gets old. Love it. While I think it is an outstanding way to thwart selfish and stupid drivers, I don&#039;t think this solution is appropriate for 9th Ave. The Mayor or Police Commish simply needs to put out a mandate for proper enforcement of bike lanes. I know better than most how efficient traffic enforcement cops are - they will have no problem dealing with more scofflaws. All it will take is an order from above and bike lanes (especially the lanes and sidewalks around my local station house at 123rd and St. Nicholas that are currently clogged with cop cars). 

And I don&#039;t mind if John Hunka keeps posting that nyc.gov feedback link. I just sent an email in. I guarantee that if everyone who has posted here sends an email in, there will be a reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That bollard video never gets old. Love it. While I think it is an outstanding way to thwart selfish and stupid drivers, I don&#8217;t think this solution is appropriate for 9th Ave. The Mayor or Police Commish simply needs to put out a mandate for proper enforcement of bike lanes. I know better than most how efficient traffic enforcement cops are &#8211; they will have no problem dealing with more scofflaws. All it will take is an order from above and bike lanes (especially the lanes and sidewalks around my local station house at 123rd and St. Nicholas that are currently clogged with cop cars). </p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t mind if John Hunka keeps posting that nyc.gov feedback link. I just sent an email in. I guarantee that if everyone who has posted here sends an email in, there will be a reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hunka</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/09/truck-drivers-confusing-new-cycle-track-for-unloading-zone/comment-page-2/#comment-38620</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hunka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cops still have&#039;t lifted a finger to clear the new bike lane on Lafayette Street.  Here&#039;s my daily email to Mayor Bloomberg.  You know what to do...

&quot;For the third day in a row, numerous motor vehicles are double-parked in the new bike lane on Lafayette Street between Canal and Franklin Streets. Please ask police officers to use the sirens and lights on their cars to clear the lane while the officers are on patrol. Thank you.&quot;

http://www.nyc.gov/portal/site/nycgov/menuitem.bd08ee7c7c1ffec87c4b36d501c789a0/index.jsp?doc_name=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyc.gov%2Fhtml%2Fmail%2Fhtml%2Fmayor.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cops still have&#8217;t lifted a finger to clear the new bike lane on Lafayette Street.  Here&#8217;s my daily email to Mayor Bloomberg.  You know what to do&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;For the third day in a row, numerous motor vehicles are double-parked in the new bike lane on Lafayette Street between Canal and Franklin Streets. Please ask police officers to use the sirens and lights on their cars to clear the lane while the officers are on patrol. Thank you.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nyc.gov/portal/site/nycgov/menuitem.bd08ee7c7c1ffec87c4b36d501c789a0/index.jsp?doc_name=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyc.gov%2Fhtml%2Fmail%2Fhtml%2Fmayor.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyc.gov/portal/site/nycgov/menuitem.bd08ee7c7c1ffec87c4b36d501c789a0/index.jsp?doc_name=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyc.gov%2Fhtml%2Fmail%2Fhtml%2Fmayor.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/09/truck-drivers-confusing-new-cycle-track-for-unloading-zone/comment-page-2/#comment-38612</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>United States Postal Service seems to make a lot of deliveries using human power; UPS, and FedEx seem to get by . . . just wonder if this know-how and other proven innovative practices can be transferred on a broad scale to a lot of other deliveries around town.

A very successful solution to AIDS and multi-drug resistant TB treatments included a lot of one-on-one personal involvement.  It seems that advance &quot;leg work&quot; including one-on-one personal involvement and planning could greatly limit the amount of time trucks clog our streets, and the city could start establishing and implementing methods to do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>United States Postal Service seems to make a lot of deliveries using human power; UPS, and FedEx seem to get by . . . just wonder if this know-how and other proven innovative practices can be transferred on a broad scale to a lot of other deliveries around town.</p>
<p>A very successful solution to AIDS and multi-drug resistant TB treatments included a lot of one-on-one personal involvement.  It seems that advance &#8220;leg work&#8221; including one-on-one personal involvement and planning could greatly limit the amount of time trucks clog our streets, and the city could start establishing and implementing methods to do this.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/09/truck-drivers-confusing-new-cycle-track-for-unloading-zone/comment-page-2/#comment-38603</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever notice all the low-cost &quot;E-Z Up&quot; tents all over the place like farmer&#039;s markets, film shoots and other events?  

Wonder if there could be developed some kind of &quot;E-Z Delivery&quot; device(s) and or systems for facilitating deliveries around the city so truckers don&#039;t have to double park and tie up traffic (including bikes)?  . . . and, make everyone happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever notice all the low-cost &#8220;E-Z Up&#8221; tents all over the place like farmer&#8217;s markets, film shoots and other events?  </p>
<p>Wonder if there could be developed some kind of &#8220;E-Z Delivery&#8221; device(s) and or systems for facilitating deliveries around the city so truckers don&#8217;t have to double park and tie up traffic (including bikes)?  . . . and, make everyone happy.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hunka</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hunka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my message du jour to Mayor Bloomberg regarding motor vehicles blocking bike lanes.  As always, please feel free to cut-and-paste, edit accordingly, and send your own personal message to Bloomberg.

&quot;For the second day in a row, numerous motor vehicles are double-parked in the new bike lane on Lafayette Street south of Kenmare. I urge Mayor Bloomberg to issue a directive to the police department directing the NYPD to: a) ticket all motor vehicles that are double-parked in bike lanes and; and b) use lights and sirens on police cars on a regular basis to clear the bike lanes of occupied motor vehicles.&quot;

http://www.nyc.gov/portal/site/nycgov/menuitem.bd08ee7c7c1ffec87c4b36d501c789a0/index.jsp?doc_name=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyc.gov%2Fhtml%2Fmail%2Fhtml%2Fmayor.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my message du jour to Mayor Bloomberg regarding motor vehicles blocking bike lanes.  As always, please feel free to cut-and-paste, edit accordingly, and send your own personal message to Bloomberg.</p>
<p>&#8220;For the second day in a row, numerous motor vehicles are double-parked in the new bike lane on Lafayette Street south of Kenmare. I urge Mayor Bloomberg to issue a directive to the police department directing the NYPD to: a) ticket all motor vehicles that are double-parked in bike lanes and; and b) use lights and sirens on police cars on a regular basis to clear the bike lanes of occupied motor vehicles.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nyc.gov/portal/site/nycgov/menuitem.bd08ee7c7c1ffec87c4b36d501c789a0/index.jsp?doc_name=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyc.gov%2Fhtml%2Fmail%2Fhtml%2Fmayor.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyc.gov/portal/site/nycgov/menuitem.bd08ee7c7c1ffec87c4b36d501c789a0/index.jsp?doc_name=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyc.gov%2Fhtml%2Fmail%2Fhtml%2Fmayor.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EZPass is encrypted, so you can&#039;t use the same tags (that ambulances already have) to open bollards. 

And as for &quot;not talking about something expensive,&quot; IMHO a citywide program to create a standard for RFID-controlled traffic furniture is not small potatoes (or won&#039;t be when DOITT and DCAS and DOT get through with it). Let&#039;s focus on small-scale initiatives that can be quickly implemented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EZPass is encrypted, so you can&#8217;t use the same tags (that ambulances already have) to open bollards. </p>
<p>And as for &#8220;not talking about something expensive,&#8221; IMHO a citywide program to create a standard for RFID-controlled traffic furniture is not small potatoes (or won&#8217;t be when DOITT and DCAS and DOT get through with it). Let&#8217;s focus on small-scale initiatives that can be quickly implemented.</p>
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		<title>By: ddartley</title>
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		<dc:creator>ddartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Zilfondel Prince of Sarcasm, I think everyone here discussing retractable bollards was assuming that the bollards were controlled by wireless technology in official vehicles--as opposed to controlled by magic.  I, for one, thought it was safe not to stipulate that in every comment.

In fact it&#039;s quite obvious--even to us &quot;brilliant&quot; people--that that&#039;s how the Manchester ones work.  

Despite Ian&#039;s latest comment, I suspect that Jonathan&#039;s worries over expense and difficulty might be pretty on-point.  If it were easy and affordable, then BRT lanes would be a great place to roll out ELECTRONIC (okay, zilfondel?) bollards--but along the whole route, not just in bus stops--so they&#039;d be visible to even dumb or dangerous motorists and would not surprise anyone.  

But yeah, sounds pretty expensive and disruptive, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Zilfondel Prince of Sarcasm, I think everyone here discussing retractable bollards was assuming that the bollards were controlled by wireless technology in official vehicles&#8211;as opposed to controlled by magic.  I, for one, thought it was safe not to stipulate that in every comment.</p>
<p>In fact it&#8217;s quite obvious&#8211;even to us &#8220;brilliant&#8221; people&#8211;that that&#8217;s how the Manchester ones work.  </p>
<p>Despite Ian&#8217;s latest comment, I suspect that Jonathan&#8217;s worries over expense and difficulty might be pretty on-point.  If it were easy and affordable, then BRT lanes would be a great place to roll out ELECTRONIC (okay, zilfondel?) bollards&#8211;but along the whole route, not just in bus stops&#8211;so they&#8217;d be visible to even dumb or dangerous motorists and would not surprise anyone.  </p>
<p>But yeah, sounds pretty expensive and disruptive, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One implementation of the RFID tags we&#039;re talking about would be EZ-Pass. It&#039;s not exactly a new technology. We&#039;re not talking about something expensive here; you could outfit the entire city fleet of police cars, ambulances, and fire trucks indefinitely at a one-time minimal cost.

And yes, electronic bollards can lower (but not raise) during a power outage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One implementation of the RFID tags we&#8217;re talking about would be EZ-Pass. It&#8217;s not exactly a new technology. We&#8217;re not talking about something expensive here; you could outfit the entire city fleet of police cars, ambulances, and fire trucks indefinitely at a one-time minimal cost.</p>
<p>And yes, electronic bollards can lower (but not raise) during a power outage.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RFID tags? Sounds good, but my ambulance doesn&#039;t have one. The reason I didn&#039;t bring that up in my post yesterday is that not having this technology already fielded creates a chicken-and-egg problem. 

In order to install six measly bollards on 9th Ave, you need to create an entire system that involves handing out the RFID passes to every ambulance (FDNY, voluntaries, and privates), fire apparatus, and police car, that might possibly need to operate in Chelsea. And will they work without power, during the next blackout? 

While this bollard thing sounds great, it could end up being a big expensive citywide program (so that identical bollards could be installed anywhere they are needed). I would rather the city DOT focused on smaller-scale solutions that can be implemented more quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RFID tags? Sounds good, but my ambulance doesn&#8217;t have one. The reason I didn&#8217;t bring that up in my post yesterday is that not having this technology already fielded creates a chicken-and-egg problem. </p>
<p>In order to install six measly bollards on 9th Ave, you need to create an entire system that involves handing out the RFID passes to every ambulance (FDNY, voluntaries, and privates), fire apparatus, and police car, that might possibly need to operate in Chelsea. And will they work without power, during the next blackout? </p>
<p>While this bollard thing sounds great, it could end up being a big expensive citywide program (so that identical bollards could be installed anywhere they are needed). I would rather the city DOT focused on smaller-scale solutions that can be implemented more quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: zilfondel</title>
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		<dc:creator>zilfondel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 04:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, some brilliant folks on this board!

Ever heard of technology?  RFID tags can - gasp! - automatically detect a vehicle that has them installed, and lower ONLY for that vehicle!  Anyone else... shit out &#039;o luck.

Remote sensors like this are used extensively in HOV lanes, the Manchester Bollards linked to on youtube, Antwerp, and many other applications, including for inventory tracking by warehouses and for employees to be admitted through secured doors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, some brilliant folks on this board!</p>
<p>Ever heard of technology?  RFID tags can &#8211; gasp! &#8211; automatically detect a vehicle that has them installed, and lower ONLY for that vehicle!  Anyone else&#8230; shit out &#8216;o luck.</p>
<p>Remote sensors like this are used extensively in HOV lanes, the Manchester Bollards linked to on youtube, Antwerp, and many other applications, including for inventory tracking by warehouses and for employees to be admitted through secured doors.</p>
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