Comments on: Renewed Calls for Ped Safety Summit as Death Toll Mounts http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/08/renewed-calls-for-pedestrian-safety-summit/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:01:47 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Anne (www.sustainableflatbush.org) http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/08/renewed-calls-for-pedestrian-safety-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-38150 Anne (www.sustainableflatbush.org) Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:33:26 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/08/renewed-calls-for-pedestrian-safety-summit-as-bodies-pile-up/#comment-38150 speed limits don't seem to be posted anywhere in NYC --- it seems that any time i am trying to figure out what the law is, there is never a sign stating the speed limit. not that it matters SO much... everyone knows it is NOT 40 mph, yet i see cars going that fast down residential streets on a routine basis. speed limits don't seem to be posted anywhere in NYC --- it seems that any time i am trying to figure out what the law is, there is never a sign stating the speed limit. not that it matters SO much... everyone knows it is NOT 40 mph, yet i see cars going that fast down residential streets on a routine basis.

]]> By: Brooklyn http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/08/renewed-calls-for-pedestrian-safety-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-38133 Brooklyn Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:56:01 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/08/renewed-calls-for-pedestrian-safety-summit-as-bodies-pile-up/#comment-38133 Driving should be a far greater privilege than it is. Any accident that causes production of a police report -- regardless of criminal or civil liability -- results in a suspension of your driver's license, much the way a cop is relieved of his weapon upon any investigation into its use. The greater (or graver) the damage or injury, the longer the suspension. Drunk driving laws work not because prison is such a great deterrent -- but having your car seized is a greater deterrent. Driving should be a far greater privilege than it is.

Any accident that causes production of a police report -- regardless of criminal or civil liability -- results in a suspension of your driver's license, much the way a cop is relieved of his weapon upon any investigation into its use. The greater (or graver) the damage or injury, the longer the suspension.

Drunk driving laws work not because prison is such a great deterrent -- but having your car seized is a greater deterrent.

]]> By: Eric http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/08/renewed-calls-for-pedestrian-safety-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-38125 Eric Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:33:56 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/08/renewed-calls-for-pedestrian-safety-summit-as-bodies-pile-up/#comment-38125 WNYC radio was reporting a pedestrian fatality somewhere in Queens this afternoon, caused by &#151 you guessed it — a vehicle. WNYC radio was reporting a pedestrian fatality somewhere in Queens this afternoon, caused by &#151 you guessed it — a vehicle.

]]> By: ddartley http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/08/renewed-calls-for-pedestrian-safety-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-38113 ddartley Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:14:09 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/08/renewed-calls-for-pedestrian-safety-summit-as-bodies-pile-up/#comment-38113 Lower the speed limit on the books. What is it? Is it too obvious to happen? Once again: 30mph is where people IN cars start dying. So why should it be allowed on the inner streets of a PEDESTRIAN-dense, pedestrian-driven city, especially if motorists routinely travel up to 20mph faster than the known speed limit, as everyone knows they do? W. T. F. ????? It's a change that could be implemented so quickly and easily, and have an instant, dramatically noticeable effect on the safety of our streets. Every day when I see headlines here and elswhere about cars injuring people, I think there is NO WAY that ANYTHING BUT SPEED was the biggest factor contributing to the incident. Road conditions? Bullshit. Darkness? Bullshit. Weather? Bullshit. YOU. With your foot on the gas pedal. That's all. Rein it in. It can't be that hard to do. Lower the speed limit on the books.

What is it? Is it too obvious to happen?

Once again: 30mph is where people IN cars start dying. So why should it be allowed on the inner streets of a PEDESTRIAN-dense, pedestrian-driven city, especially if motorists routinely travel up to 20mph faster than the known speed limit, as everyone knows they do?

W. T. F. ?????

It's a change that could be implemented so quickly and easily, and have an instant, dramatically noticeable effect on the safety of our streets.

Every day when I see headlines here and elswhere about cars injuring people, I think there is NO WAY that ANYTHING BUT SPEED was the biggest factor contributing to the incident. Road conditions? Bullshit. Darkness? Bullshit. Weather? Bullshit. YOU. With your foot on the gas pedal. That's all.

Rein it in. It can't be that hard to do.

]]> By: Charles Siegel http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/08/renewed-calls-for-pedestrian-safety-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-38112 Charles Siegel Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:54:50 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/08/renewed-calls-for-pedestrian-safety-summit-as-bodies-pile-up/#comment-38112 Speaking of carnage, this chart from Todd Litman shows that crash damage is the second largest cost of owning an automobile. The purchase cost is largest, and crash damages are about twice as great as the cost of operation, according to the chart in http://www.planetizen.com/node/27367. Speaking of carnage, this chart from Todd Litman shows that crash damage is the second largest cost of owning an automobile. The purchase cost is largest, and crash damages are about twice as great as the cost of operation, according to the chart in http://www.planetizen.com/node/27367.

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