Comments on: DOT Minds the GAP http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:19:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Anne (www.sustainableflatbush.org) http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/comment-page-1/#comment-38264 Anne (www.sustainableflatbush.org) Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:14:53 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/#comment-38264 ruben, there are plenty of ways to get from south brooklyn to north brooklyn and manhattan other than through prospect park. what south brooklyn needs is more and better ways to do it that don't involve private automobiles. ruben, there are plenty of ways to get from south brooklyn to north brooklyn and manhattan other than through prospect park. what south brooklyn needs is more and better ways to do it that don't involve private automobiles.

]]> By: mrbrklyn http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/comment-page-1/#comment-38258 mrbrklyn Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:52:53 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/#comment-38258 I know some people have problems thinking straight, or recognizing that living in the CITY means sharing needs and space, but this plan does NOT cut off the park from cars, and if it would, like the one "proposed" by the community, all of south Brooklyn from Mill Basin through to Bay Ridge, on to Flatbush would be cut off from North Brooklyn and Manhattan and shunted through the heart of Park Slope making south bound Flatbush Avenue completely unaccessible. So that is what Markowitz was doing there. He was assure nut cases can't destroy the Borough. Ruben I know some people have problems thinking straight, or recognizing that living in the CITY means sharing needs and space, but this plan does NOT cut off the park from cars, and if it would, like the one "proposed" by the community, all of south Brooklyn from Mill Basin through to Bay Ridge, on to Flatbush would be cut off from North Brooklyn and Manhattan and shunted through the heart of Park Slope making south bound Flatbush Avenue completely unaccessible. So that is what Markowitz was doing there. He was assure nut cases can't destroy the Borough.

Ruben

]]> By: todd http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/comment-page-1/#comment-37921 todd Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:20:21 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/#comment-37921 I applaud this effort but ingress and egress to and from Prospect Park from Grand Army Plaza are still poorly designed. To exit the park, a biker must merge into a traffic lane that also has merging cars....I don't understand why DOT doesn't have only 2 lanes exiting the park...this is the only place in the park where three lanes are permitted. I applaud this effort but ingress and egress to and from Prospect Park from Grand Army Plaza are still poorly designed. To exit the park, a biker must merge into a traffic lane that also has merging cars....I don't understand why DOT doesn't have only 2 lanes exiting the park...this is the only place in the park where three lanes are permitted.

]]> By: Hilary Kitasei http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/comment-page-1/#comment-37864 Hilary Kitasei Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:33:46 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/#comment-37864 This is exactly what we mean by keeping the park in parkway. Piece by piece, these corridors linking the city's parks and waterfronts can be reknit. And not just to original standards, but newer and better. This is exactly what we mean by keeping the park in parkway. Piece by piece, these corridors linking the city's parks and waterfronts can be reknit. And not just to original standards, but newer and better.

]]> By: Felix http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/comment-page-1/#comment-37850 Felix Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:55:21 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/#comment-37850 Who let Markowitz into that photo? Isn't he a major obstacle to the GAPCO plan, which would require closing the park to cars? Who let Markowitz into that photo? Isn't he a major obstacle to the GAPCO plan, which would require closing the park to cars?

]]> By: Jeffrey W. Baker http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/comment-page-1/#comment-37849 Jeffrey W. Baker Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:54:51 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/#comment-37849 Congratulations on this successful public coalition. I'm only a visitor to Brooklyn but the first time I went to Grand Army Plaza (it seemed attractive on the map) I was stumped as to how to cross it on foot. As a San Franciscan I really admire your ability to get this done in only a few years. Over here, that's not enough time to let the contract on the draft environmental impact report. Congratulations on this successful public coalition. I'm only a visitor to Brooklyn but the first time I went to Grand Army Plaza (it seemed attractive on the map) I was stumped as to how to cross it on foot.

As a San Franciscan I really admire your ability to get this done in only a few years. Over here, that's not enough time to let the contract on the draft environmental impact report.

]]> By: Jen http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/comment-page-1/#comment-37847 Jen Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:25:26 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/#comment-37847 It is great that they are finally doing this as I cross this death trap on a daily basis. Two aspects that I see missing however are: 1.) Still no walk/don't walk signal light from the corner of Plaza East to Eastern Parkway - either the service side or main roadway. Either cars from Flatbush turning right onto EP can take that immediate left or cars coming across from Union onto EP can take a left at alternating times. There is never a completely safe, guaranteed pedestrian-only time. 2.) Still no way to let drivers turning right off Flatbush onto EP that there may be a red light as soon as they turn. Drivers often speed through this light since they don't expect a light just after turning. Perhaps a sign before the turn warning drivers. Yea! No more running across 6 lanes of traffic every morning! It is great that they are finally doing this as I cross this death trap on a daily basis. Two aspects that I see missing however are:

1.) Still no walk/don't walk signal light from the corner of Plaza East to Eastern Parkway - either the service side or main roadway. Either cars from Flatbush turning right onto EP can take that immediate left or cars coming across from Union onto EP can take a left at alternating times. There is never a completely safe, guaranteed pedestrian-only time.

2.) Still no way to let drivers turning right off Flatbush onto EP that there may be a red light as soon as they turn. Drivers often speed through this light since they don't expect a light just after turning. Perhaps a sign before the turn warning drivers.

Yea! No more running across 6 lanes of traffic every morning!

]]> By: JK http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/comment-page-1/#comment-37844 JK Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:01:01 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/#comment-37844 Congratulations Aaron, Michael and GAPco-ers! Great work all around. Like you, I hope this is the first step in the total reclamation of this important public space. Congrats also to TA and TOPPS for their work here. Congratulations Aaron, Michael and GAPco-ers! Great work all around. Like you, I hope this is the first step in the total reclamation of this important public space. Congrats also to TA and TOPPS for their work here.

]]> By: momos http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/comment-page-1/#comment-37838 momos Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:53:37 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/02/dot-minds-the-gap/#comment-37838 Things are changing at DOT. The evolution at Grand Army Plaza is fantastic. Let's hope the change is seen through to the longterm vision. Compliments are in order for the excellent work of GAPco and the responsiveness of the new DOT leadership. Things are changing at DOT. The evolution at Grand Army Plaza is fantastic. Let's hope the change is seen through to the longterm vision. Compliments are in order for the excellent work of GAPco and the responsiveness of the new DOT leadership.

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