Comments on: “Vision Zero”: Not One More Traffic Death http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/01/vision-zero-not-one-more-traffic-death/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:37:03 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Brian Stanke http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/01/vision-zero-not-one-more-traffic-death/comment-page-1/#comment-37796 Brian Stanke Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:42:27 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/01/vision-zero-not-one-more-traffic-death/#comment-37796 No Jaywalking? Sure, just put in a raised "mid-block" crossing every 150-300 ft on every road. If you had a crossing that often would you mind the barriers? No Jaywalking? Sure, just put in a raised "mid-block" crossing every 150-300 ft on every road. If you had a crossing that often would you mind the barriers?

]]> By: daniel http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/01/vision-zero-not-one-more-traffic-death/comment-page-1/#comment-37777 daniel Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:54:42 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/01/vision-zero-not-one-more-traffic-death/#comment-37777 20 mph enforced by architecture sounds great, but what do you think of the mylar divider idea? can you imagine NYC without jaywalking? 20 mph enforced by architecture sounds great, but what do you think of the mylar divider idea? can you imagine NYC without jaywalking?

]]> By: Nick/295 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/01/vision-zero-not-one-more-traffic-death/comment-page-1/#comment-37776 Nick/295 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:48:39 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/01/vision-zero-not-one-more-traffic-death/#comment-37776 Quite a lot of the advantage driving has over transit comes from abandonment of driving safety. It's not just that everyone speeds on the freeway and nobody leaves a safe stopping distance that bugs me, as the redesign of city streets into mini-freeways, which are dangerous enough if you're in a car, and absolutely hostile to anyone on two feet. Quite a lot of the advantage driving has over transit comes from abandonment of driving safety.

It's not just that everyone speeds on the freeway and nobody leaves a safe stopping distance that bugs me, as the redesign of city streets into mini-freeways, which are dangerous enough if you're in a car, and absolutely hostile to anyone on two feet.

]]> By: ddartley http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/01/vision-zero-not-one-more-traffic-death/comment-page-1/#comment-37766 ddartley Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:05:06 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/01/vision-zero-not-one-more-traffic-death/#comment-37766 "On local streets, narrowed roadways and speed bumps, plus raised pedestrian crosswalks, limit speeds to a generally non-lethal 20 miles an hour." Hey NYCDOT: Why the #@%$, Why the #@%$, Why the #@%$, Why the #@%$, NOT HERE?? I'm sure NYC streets are more pedestrian-saturated than the Swedish local streets referred to. If they have reason to do it, we have more. Also, socialscientist's remark reminded me of this notion I sometimes entertain. The statement itself is not serious, but the sentiment behind it sure is: want to make pedestrians safer? Get rid of seatbelts, airbags, etc. "On local streets, narrowed roadways and speed bumps, plus raised pedestrian crosswalks, limit speeds to a generally non-lethal 20 miles an hour."

Hey NYCDOT: Why the #@%$, Why the #@%$, Why the #@%$, Why the #@%$, NOT HERE??

I'm sure NYC streets are more pedestrian-saturated than the Swedish local streets referred to. If they have reason to do it, we have more.

Also, socialscientist's remark reminded me of this notion I sometimes entertain. The statement itself is not serious, but the sentiment behind it sure is: want to make pedestrians safer? Get rid of seatbelts, airbags, etc.

]]> By: ben http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/01/vision-zero-not-one-more-traffic-death/comment-page-1/#comment-37763 ben Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:58:58 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/01/vision-zero-not-one-more-traffic-death/#comment-37763 Amazing how we overlook issues like death, pollution, and negative impact so that americans can become a motorist. If this was a drug it would be illegal. Amazing how we overlook issues like death, pollution, and negative impact so that americans can become a motorist.

If this was a drug it would be illegal.

]]> By: Dave H. http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/01/vision-zero-not-one-more-traffic-death/comment-page-1/#comment-37759 Dave H. Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:29:02 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/01/vision-zero-not-one-more-traffic-death/#comment-37759 I disagree - if driving speeds are lowered, driving will both become less attractive as a mode and less threatening to other modes. I disagree - if driving speeds are lowered, driving will both become less attractive as a mode and less threatening to other modes.

]]> By: socialscientist http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/01/vision-zero-not-one-more-traffic-death/comment-page-1/#comment-37758 socialscientist Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:24:40 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/10/01/vision-zero-not-one-more-traffic-death/#comment-37758 How short-sighted! Improving systems that threaten the biosphere. How short-sighted! Improving systems that threaten the biosphere.

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