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	<title>Comments on: Wylde v. Brodsky on WNBC News Show</title>
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		<title>By: Douglas Willinger</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/08/20/wylde-v-brodsky-on-wnbc-news-show/comment-page-1/#comment-38043</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Willinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Additional tubes for the Holland Tunnel are necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Additional tubes for the Holland Tunnel are necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: offgrid</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/08/20/wylde-v-brodsky-on-wnbc-news-show/comment-page-1/#comment-35841</link>
		<dc:creator>offgrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who happened to be stuck in traffic on avenues 
between the West Village and Liberty Street last Saturday 
afternoon must be wondering why, with all the other 
questions being asked about why two Ladder 5 firefighters 
died in the Deutsche Bank bldg, no reporters are asking 
questions about response time.

Expecting Holland Tunnel Saturday midafternoon traffic 
to be light at this time of year, I was sorta surprised 
to find it at near-stand-still last Saturday. Trying 
to cross Varick at Houston on a bike, I watched FDNY 
vehicles of all sorts try long, noisily, and almost 
in vain to break through the near-impacted (think 
wisdom tooth) tunnel-bound traffic in Varick Street 
and Seventh Avenue South.

One curiosity of the morning of 11 September 2001 was 
that at the same location, unlike last Saturday afternoon, 
sirens weren&#039;t deafening. The emergency route to the WTC 
was and is West Street, and that was the route FDNY and 
NYPD vehicles took &quot;9/11.&quot;

So what was different 8/18/07 at Varick and Houston, 
one block west of the firehouse that lost 11 on 9/11?

Did the seemingly endless road work on West Houston 
prevent FDNY quick access to West Street? 

Or did tunnel-approach congestion contribute to the 
Deutsche Bank NYC firefighter death toll?

Why aren&#039;t reporters asking whether conditions went 
from bad to worse Saturday while FDNY equipment was 
stuck in tunnel traffic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who happened to be stuck in traffic on avenues<br />
between the West Village and Liberty Street last Saturday<br />
afternoon must be wondering why, with all the other<br />
questions being asked about why two Ladder 5 firefighters<br />
died in the Deutsche Bank bldg, no reporters are asking<br />
questions about response time.</p>
<p>Expecting Holland Tunnel Saturday midafternoon traffic<br />
to be light at this time of year, I was sorta surprised<br />
to find it at near-stand-still last Saturday. Trying<br />
to cross Varick at Houston on a bike, I watched FDNY<br />
vehicles of all sorts try long, noisily, and almost<br />
in vain to break through the near-impacted (think<br />
wisdom tooth) tunnel-bound traffic in Varick Street<br />
and Seventh Avenue South.</p>
<p>One curiosity of the morning of 11 September 2001 was<br />
that at the same location, unlike last Saturday afternoon,<br />
sirens weren&#8217;t deafening. The emergency route to the WTC<br />
was and is West Street, and that was the route FDNY and<br />
NYPD vehicles took &#8220;9/11.&#8221;</p>
<p>So what was different 8/18/07 at Varick and Houston,<br />
one block west of the firehouse that lost 11 on 9/11?</p>
<p>Did the seemingly endless road work on West Houston<br />
prevent FDNY quick access to West Street? </p>
<p>Or did tunnel-approach congestion contribute to the<br />
Deutsche Bank NYC firefighter death toll?</p>
<p>Why aren&#8217;t reporters asking whether conditions went<br />
from bad to worse Saturday while FDNY equipment was<br />
stuck in tunnel traffic?</p>
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		<title>By: mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it me, or did Wylde totally kick Brodsky&#039;s butt in this debate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it me, or did Wylde totally kick Brodsky&#8217;s butt in this debate?</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally understand how they are protraying this as &quot;regressive&quot;. Of the only 5% of NYC CBD commuters that drive to work, the folks that currently use the free bridges who are disproportionately poorer than the people who take the Triboro and tunnels. DUH! So he&#039;s not really fighting for the middle class so much as he is fighting for the 1-2% of lower income drivers to continue to sit in traffic and drive alone rather than carpool and drive more quickly to their destination. 

And then K.Wylde brings up an excellent point. Who are these low income drivers that can afford to park in Manhattan? Public employees with free parking, +80% of whom have viable public transportation options. 

Game, set, match point IMHO. Brodsky&#039;s argument does not hold water. He&#039;s using progressive values about protecting the little guy to defend a small group of entitled motorists that right now effectively drive for free into the most congested zone in the metropolitan area, costing the rest of us billions each year in lost time, wages and higher prices for everything from construction costs to apples. 

And ultimately those people are just a smokescreen for the people he is most concerned about - his own wealth constituents that drive through the Bronx into Manhattan for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally understand how they are protraying this as &#8220;regressive&#8221;. Of the only 5% of NYC CBD commuters that drive to work, the folks that currently use the free bridges who are disproportionately poorer than the people who take the Triboro and tunnels. DUH! So he&#8217;s not really fighting for the middle class so much as he is fighting for the 1-2% of lower income drivers to continue to sit in traffic and drive alone rather than carpool and drive more quickly to their destination. </p>
<p>And then K.Wylde brings up an excellent point. Who are these low income drivers that can afford to park in Manhattan? Public employees with free parking, +80% of whom have viable public transportation options. </p>
<p>Game, set, match point IMHO. Brodsky&#8217;s argument does not hold water. He&#8217;s using progressive values about protecting the little guy to defend a small group of entitled motorists that right now effectively drive for free into the most congested zone in the metropolitan area, costing the rest of us billions each year in lost time, wages and higher prices for everything from construction costs to apples. </p>
<p>And ultimately those people are just a smokescreen for the people he is most concerned about &#8211; his own wealth constituents that drive through the Bronx into Manhattan for free.</p>
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		<title>By: a planner</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/08/20/wylde-v-brodsky-on-wnbc-news-show/comment-page-1/#comment-35810</link>
		<dc:creator>a planner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The parking garage owners aren&#039;t getting much for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/07/09/richard-brodsky-working-for-the-public-or-the-parking-industry/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;their money&lt;/a&gt;, are they? At least in this excerpt, Brodsky comes off as a guy with nothing to stand on and no good points to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The parking garage owners aren&#8217;t getting much for <a href="http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/07/09/richard-brodsky-working-for-the-public-or-the-parking-industry/" rel="nofollow">their money</a>, are they? At least in this excerpt, Brodsky comes off as a guy with nothing to stand on and no good points to make.</p>
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		<title>By: psycholist</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/08/20/wylde-v-brodsky-on-wnbc-news-show/comment-page-1/#comment-35807</link>
		<dc:creator>psycholist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good interview, really shows the hollowness of Brodsky&#039;s talking points. Basically he doesn&#039;t want to lose his parking privileges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good interview, really shows the hollowness of Brodsky&#8217;s talking points. Basically he doesn&#8217;t want to lose his parking privileges.</p>
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