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	<title>Comments on: Brodsky Killed Congestion Pricing But We Hurt His Feelings</title>
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		<title>By: MIDTOWN RESIDENT</title>
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		<dc:creator>MIDTOWN RESIDENT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jmc - Yes, he is one of the people blocking traffic enforcement cameras.  He is apparently concerned about political opponents knowing his whereabouts or so he said on NY 1.  Is it any wonder the guy lost two winnable races for Westchester County Exec?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jmc - Yes, he is one of the people blocking traffic enforcement cameras.  He is apparently concerned about political opponents knowing his whereabouts or so he said on NY 1.  Is it any wonder the guy lost two winnable races for Westchester County Exec?</p>
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		<title>By: Spud Spudly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spud Spudly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRODSKY killed congestion pricing????

Puh-leeeeze.

You give the man way too much credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRODSKY killed congestion pricing????</p>
<p>Puh-leeeeze.</p>
<p>You give the man way too much credit.</p>
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		<title>By: jmc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Brodsky the same guy who&#039;s always killing red light cameras?</description>
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		<title>By: Mister Bad Example</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister Bad Example</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect/hope that Bloomberg had alternate plans up his sleeve--things that NYC could implement absent state sign-on to Congestion Pricing. None of them are pretty and most of them are probably going to really piss off Brodsky&#039;s constituency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect/hope that Bloomberg had alternate plans up his sleeve--things that NYC could implement absent state sign-on to Congestion Pricing. None of them are pretty and most of them are probably going to really piss off Brodsky's constituency.</p>
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		<title>By: MIDTOWN RESIDENT</title>
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		<dc:creator>MIDTOWN RESIDENT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a load of BS from Brodsky.  The politics of personal destruction is impeaching a President for lying about a blow job.  Reviewing the public record and pointing out he receives a lot of money from parking interests is completely legit.

Bloomberg made some political mistakes on Congestiopn Pricing but my big problem with the whole thing is that people like Brodsky have been blocking the city&#039;s ability to control its own destiny.  He has been a major opponent of both a commuter tax and more educating funding as mandated by the CFE suit.

NYC needs real home rule so the City Council can make decisions on taxes and fees and get out from under the thumb of Albany.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a load of BS from Brodsky.  The politics of personal destruction is impeaching a President for lying about a blow job.  Reviewing the public record and pointing out he receives a lot of money from parking interests is completely legit.</p>
<p>Bloomberg made some political mistakes on Congestiopn Pricing but my big problem with the whole thing is that people like Brodsky have been blocking the city's ability to control its own destiny.  He has been a major opponent of both a commuter tax and more educating funding as mandated by the CFE suit.</p>
<p>NYC needs real home rule so the City Council can make decisions on taxes and fees and get out from under the thumb of Albany.</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha ha. you lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha ha. you lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, to be reductionist, you could say politics boils down to who pays the money to the government and who gets the money from the government. For Brodsky to be so offended by the suggestion that financial contributions could affect his vote is a little too much faux indignation for me. Like that old movie character, he is shocked, shocked to find gambling going on in Casablanca.

Please don&#039;t call this a personal attack! I don&#039;t even think Cheney said anything like this about all the Halliburton allegations (although I guess he fees no need to communicate with the public anyway).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, to be reductionist, you could say politics boils down to who pays the money to the government and who gets the money from the government. For Brodsky to be so offended by the suggestion that financial contributions could affect his vote is a little too much faux indignation for me. Like that old movie character, he is shocked, shocked to find gambling going on in Casablanca.</p>
<p>Please don't call this a personal attack! I don't even think Cheney said anything like this about all the Halliburton allegations (although I guess he fees no need to communicate with the public anyway).</p>
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		<title>By: lower Manhattan</title>
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		<dc:creator>lower Manhattan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wealthier people generally take the subway shorter distances and more often while poorer people take the subway longer distances and less often, so I think a non-zoned fare option is better.&quot;

Not so. We wealthy people are quick to hop a cab for short distances -- yet we&#039;ll take the subway if it&#039;s convenient and practically free (as in monthly pass). Price elasticity doesn&#039;t apply..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Wealthier people generally take the subway shorter distances and more often while poorer people take the subway longer distances and less often, so I think a non-zoned fare option is better."</p>
<p>Not so. We wealthy people are quick to hop a cab for short distances -- yet we'll take the subway if it's convenient and practically free (as in monthly pass). Price elasticity doesn't apply..</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Litella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily Litella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One look at this guy (Brodsky) tells you who he is.  Dinosaur is the nicest word that comes to mind.

Anecdote:  I was leaving an evening NY Philharmonic concert at Cunnigham Park with the crowd streaming out onto the residential streets with folding chairs and blankets.  Cars occupied by other concertgoers could mingle with crowd but just slowly for a block or three.  Sure enough a 20 something in a new SUV yells in frustration to no one in particular, &quot;Get on the sidewalk!&quot;  All the parking restrictions and congestion charging and luxury express buses on 5 minute headways won&#039;t tame these ignorant brats, these voters, these... but how different are all of us from him.  He&#039;s as frustrated as we are, a victim of the same money based &#039;way of life&#039;.  He&#039;s a bit less aware of environmental and transportation issues and we know that by his station and misdirected anger.  He  identifies himself to me as a jerk by bellowing out of car window, but we both vote with our dollars for globalized clothing and food.  Oil exports (to us) are about to fall off a cliff.  That will soon result in massive and permanent economic and social disruption.  As I see it, we are all up the same creek - together.  Someday that SUV driver will be competing with me for something a lot more dear than 3 sq ft of space in Bayside.  And he won&#039;t be safely contained in his car.

PS: Bloomberg is no dummy.  At least he will be able to claim he tried to get folks to change.  More than the Honorable Dinosaur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One look at this guy (Brodsky) tells you who he is.  Dinosaur is the nicest word that comes to mind.</p>
<p>Anecdote:  I was leaving an evening NY Philharmonic concert at Cunnigham Park with the crowd streaming out onto the residential streets with folding chairs and blankets.  Cars occupied by other concertgoers could mingle with crowd but just slowly for a block or three.  Sure enough a 20 something in a new SUV yells in frustration to no one in particular, "Get on the sidewalk!"  All the parking restrictions and congestion charging and luxury express buses on 5 minute headways won't tame these ignorant brats, these voters, these... but how different are all of us from him.  He's as frustrated as we are, a victim of the same money based 'way of life'.  He's a bit less aware of environmental and transportation issues and we know that by his station and misdirected anger.  He  identifies himself to me as a jerk by bellowing out of car window, but we both vote with our dollars for globalized clothing and food.  Oil exports (to us) are about to fall off a cliff.  That will soon result in massive and permanent economic and social disruption.  As I see it, we are all up the same creek - together.  Someday that SUV driver will be competing with me for something a lot more dear than 3 sq ft of space in Bayside.  And he won't be safely contained in his car.</p>
<p>PS: Bloomberg is no dummy.  At least he will be able to claim he tried to get folks to change.  More than the Honorable Dinosaur.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niccolo&#039;s point above is spot on.  Bloomberg has tried to demagogue (sp?) the issue of the $500MM, and has been fairly successful spinning that to the media.

But anyone who follows the budget (including, surprise surprise, the legislature) knows it&#039;s BS.

I hold no brief for Brodsky, and I hold him accountable for taking the wrong position on this.  But Bloomberg bears as much credit for the failure as he gets for raising the issue to prominence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niccolo's point above is spot on.  Bloomberg has tried to demagogue (sp?) the issue of the $500MM, and has been fairly successful spinning that to the media.</p>
<p>But anyone who follows the budget (including, surprise surprise, the legislature) knows it's BS.</p>
<p>I hold no brief for Brodsky, and I hold him accountable for taking the wrong position on this.  But Bloomberg bears as much credit for the failure as he gets for raising the issue to prominence.</p>
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		<title>By: Jmc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zone fares end up being regressive, while a flat fare ends up being progressive. Wealthier people generally take the subway shorter distances and more often while poorer people take the subway longer distances and less often, so I think a non-zoned fare option is better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zone fares end up being regressive, while a flat fare ends up being progressive. Wealthier people generally take the subway shorter distances and more often while poorer people take the subway longer distances and less often, so I think a non-zoned fare option is better.</p>
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		<title>By: t</title>
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		<dc:creator>t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t people say that the smoking ban would be terrible for businesses, that bars would shut down, that people would stay home and smoke?  It turned out to be completely untrue.  I think the same holds true for congestion pricing, yet we wound up giving too much sway to people who did not have the facts on their side.  

This is a sad day for common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn't people say that the smoking ban would be terrible for businesses, that bars would shut down, that people would stay home and smoke?  It turned out to be completely untrue.  I think the same holds true for congestion pricing, yet we wound up giving too much sway to people who did not have the facts on their side.  </p>
<p>This is a sad day for common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its sad that congestion pricing will not be implemented sooner rather than later. As a student and now an employed planner in urban and transportation planning, I&#039;ve come to know it is only a matter of time before congestion pricing hits New York. The money brought in by this grant and future congestion pricing would allow for subway and bus expansion, perhaps future light rail projects, LIRR East Side Access/Metro North Penn Station Access, and other transit and road infrastructure improvements. It would have helped stave off a major fare increase by MTA. Its probably time to adopt a model like Tokyo, Washington, or the San Francisco Bay Area and charge a fare based on zones. Although a fare structure for a subway is a topic for another day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its sad that congestion pricing will not be implemented sooner rather than later. As a student and now an employed planner in urban and transportation planning, I've come to know it is only a matter of time before congestion pricing hits New York. The money brought in by this grant and future congestion pricing would allow for subway and bus expansion, perhaps future light rail projects, LIRR East Side Access/Metro North Penn Station Access, and other transit and road infrastructure improvements. It would have helped stave off a major fare increase by MTA. Its probably time to adopt a model like Tokyo, Washington, or the San Francisco Bay Area and charge a fare based on zones. Although a fare structure for a subway is a topic for another day.</p>
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		<title>By: rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brodsky has power because we grant him power. How progressives like Brodsky can snivel and fuss about CP being a regressive tax is beyond me. If roads are a public resource that he is reluctant to charge for, then what about other public resources we charge for like the subway and the bus. Wake up! Poor people don&#039;t drive into Manhattan to go to work. If it really bugs you, refund the money to low income drivers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brodsky has power because we grant him power. How progressives like Brodsky can snivel and fuss about CP being a regressive tax is beyond me. If roads are a public resource that he is reluctant to charge for, then what about other public resources we charge for like the subway and the bus. Wake up! Poor people don't drive into Manhattan to go to work. If it really bugs you, refund the money to low income drivers.</p>
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		<title>By: Yabba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yabba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the extent there is a real political fear dimension to some of the behavior discussed here, it may have to do with the fact that these state politicians get elected by small groups of citizens and thus do not want to anger several thousand people in their districts whoever they may be. 

Though it also seems from a lot of the complaints about &quot;process&quot; and &quot;timing&quot; that a leader proposing anything bold within what seems like a reasonable time frame to an ordinary person cuts against every fiber of these politicians&#039; beings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the extent there is a real political fear dimension to some of the behavior discussed here, it may have to do with the fact that these state politicians get elected by small groups of citizens and thus do not want to anger several thousand people in their districts whoever they may be. </p>
<p>Though it also seems from a lot of the complaints about "process" and "timing" that a leader proposing anything bold within what seems like a reasonable time frame to an ordinary person cuts against every fiber of these politicians' beings.</p>
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		<title>By: Niccolo Machiavelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niccolo Machiavelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are complex issues and the connect between cost and benefit is nebulous in the eye of the voters.  

And, I think the &quot;blood on his hands&quot; hyperbole works against a resolution with powerful people almost giving them an excuse to deny your appeal. The complexity of the issue makes the denial all the more acceptable in the face of resort to that sort of rhetoric.

Shelly and his conference really challenged the Mayor to go ahead and hang the $500 Million around their necks.  We&#039;ll see how much that albatross really weighs.  The Mayor is a media genius and one of maybe the three most politically powerful media tycoons in the world (the others being Berlusconi and Murdock).  Now he is in a position of claiming that $500 million had to be received from the Feds for 2nd Avenue and East Side Access to go forward.  He has to make that claim while sitting on a $5 Billion surplus.

Conversely, Albany is in the position of having to come up with the State portions for those same projects.  Brodsky has already said he supports full funding from other sources.  It gets to be an interesting game of chess, though I am unsure of whose move is next, the Mayor handing out the blame for blowing the Federal money, or the Legislature finally identifying the state portion of the MTA Capital plan? All of the parties have already taken credit for 2nd Ave and LIRR-ESA.  They took credit when they passed the Transportation Bond Act and they all cut the ribbons in front of the cameras.  Who is going to run out there now and tie the ribbons back up?

But &quot;blood on his hands&quot; won&#039;t get us where we want to be.  It will only continue to piss these powerful people off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are complex issues and the connect between cost and benefit is nebulous in the eye of the voters.  </p>
<p>And, I think the "blood on his hands" hyperbole works against a resolution with powerful people almost giving them an excuse to deny your appeal. The complexity of the issue makes the denial all the more acceptable in the face of resort to that sort of rhetoric.</p>
<p>Shelly and his conference really challenged the Mayor to go ahead and hang the $500 Million around their necks.  We'll see how much that albatross really weighs.  The Mayor is a media genius and one of maybe the three most politically powerful media tycoons in the world (the others being Berlusconi and Murdock).  Now he is in a position of claiming that $500 million had to be received from the Feds for 2nd Avenue and East Side Access to go forward.  He has to make that claim while sitting on a $5 Billion surplus.</p>
<p>Conversely, Albany is in the position of having to come up with the State portions for those same projects.  Brodsky has already said he supports full funding from other sources.  It gets to be an interesting game of chess, though I am unsure of whose move is next, the Mayor handing out the blame for blowing the Federal money, or the Legislature finally identifying the state portion of the MTA Capital plan? All of the parties have already taken credit for 2nd Ave and LIRR-ESA.  They took credit when they passed the Transportation Bond Act and they all cut the ribbons in front of the cameras.  Who is going to run out there now and tie the ribbons back up?</p>
<p>But "blood on his hands" won't get us where we want to be.  It will only continue to piss these powerful people off.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRODSKY HAS BLOOD ON HIS HANDS!

CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW CLEANER THE AIR WOULD HAVE BEEN! THEREFORE HOW MANY LIVES WOULD HAVE BEEN SAVED????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRODSKY HAS BLOOD ON HIS HANDS!</p>
<p>CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW CLEANER THE AIR WOULD HAVE BEEN! THEREFORE HOW MANY LIVES WOULD HAVE BEEN SAVED????</p>
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		<title>By: Red</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/07/17/brodsky-killed-congestion-pricing-but-his-feelings-are-hurt/comment-page-1/#comment-34038</link>
		<dc:creator>Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nino, I think it&#039;s a misguided fear of political repercussions.  The fact that commenters on City Room and people-on-the-street sources in newspaper articles continue to bring up misconceptions like the parking &quot;edge effect&quot; shows it&#039;s going to take some segments of the public a LONG time to understand pricing&#039;s benefits.  I do think that with sustained pressure and education, the Assembly will come around.  That $500 million is long gone, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nino, I think it's a misguided fear of political repercussions.  The fact that commenters on City Room and people-on-the-street sources in newspaper articles continue to bring up misconceptions like the parking "edge effect" shows it's going to take some segments of the public a LONG time to understand pricing's benefits.  I do think that with sustained pressure and education, the Assembly will come around.  That $500 million is long gone, though.</p>
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		<title>By: JF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m offended that Brodsky claimed to speak for the middle class, while ignoring the vast numbers who don&#039;t drive to Manhattan on weekdays.    He may actually believe this, but it would be truly intolerable if he didn&#039;t, and were saying so for some other reason.

We&#039;ve offered many non ad-hominem critiques of Brodsky&#039;s ideas about congestion pricing, but he has chosen to focus on the personal criticism.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that he&#039;s sincere if he hasn&#039;t addressed any of the substantive criticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I'm offended that Brodsky claimed to speak for the middle class, while ignoring the vast numbers who don't drive to Manhattan on weekdays.    He may actually believe this, but it would be truly intolerable if he didn't, and were saying so for some other reason.</p>
<p>We've offered many non ad-hominem critiques of Brodsky's ideas about congestion pricing, but he has chosen to focus on the personal criticism.  It's hard for me to believe that he's sincere if he hasn't addressed any of the substantive criticism.</p>
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		<title>By: Nino</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/07/17/brodsky-killed-congestion-pricing-but-his-feelings-are-hurt/comment-page-1/#comment-34033</link>
		<dc:creator>Nino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it hard to believe that the Assembly&#039;s motivation for opposing congestion pricing stems mostly from a few medium sized campaign contributions....

What does everyone think the real reason is? Not enough control over the funds it&#039;ll generate? Afraid of the political repercussions in their home districts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it hard to believe that the Assembly's motivation for opposing congestion pricing stems mostly from a few medium sized campaign contributions....</p>
<p>What does everyone think the real reason is? Not enough control over the funds it'll generate? Afraid of the political repercussions in their home districts?</p>
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