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	<title>Comments on: Details of Proposed Bus Service Expansion</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Icolari</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/07/12/details-of-proposed-bus-service-expansion/comment-page-1/#comment-35489</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Icolari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, Staten Island is deemed worthy only of an asterisk, noting the implementation of new routes and upgraded service on existing routes, without detailing what those routes are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, Staten Island is deemed worthy only of an asterisk, noting the implementation of new routes and upgraded service on existing routes, without detailing what those routes are.</p>
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		<title>By: Potosi</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/07/12/details-of-proposed-bus-service-expansion/comment-page-1/#comment-33893</link>
		<dc:creator>Potosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There ought to be both a cross Bronx subway, and also a subway that connects the Bronx with Queens. This could very easily be done by going over the tracks already existing on Hell Gate Bridge. It would a huge boon to business development in both burroughs and create new opportuinties for residents of both burroughs and save lots of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There ought to be both a cross Bronx subway, and also a subway that connects the Bronx with Queens. This could very easily be done by going over the tracks already existing on Hell Gate Bridge. It would a huge boon to business development in both burroughs and create new opportuinties for residents of both burroughs and save lots of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Manhattan resident</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/07/12/details-of-proposed-bus-service-expansion/comment-page-1/#comment-33866</link>
		<dc:creator>Manhattan resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at the list of additional buses and routes. Almost half are for suburban commuter routes. This should be pointed out to suburban naysayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at the list of additional buses and routes. Almost half are for suburban commuter routes. This should be pointed out to suburban naysayers.</p>
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		<title>By: Boogiedown</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/07/12/details-of-proposed-bus-service-expansion/comment-page-1/#comment-33828</link>
		<dc:creator>Boogiedown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Mork. I go that way usually. And Jason&#039;s way is quicker. But there are plenty of people who need to go to a borough which isn&#039;t Manhattan and the only way is right through it. There should be a bus that by-passes Manhattan, like a ring road around all American cities. Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Mork. I go that way usually. And Jason's way is quicker. But there are plenty of people who need to go to a borough which isn't Manhattan and the only way is right through it. There should be a bus that by-passes Manhattan, like a ring road around all American cities. Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/07/12/details-of-proposed-bus-service-expansion/comment-page-1/#comment-33827</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;ll take Boogie an hour, at best, Mork. And he/she will have to deal with the crowded 4 all the way to Midtown... Frustratingly long when you know it&#039;s only a 10 minute drive across the Triborough Bridge.

If I lived in the South Bronx, i&#039;d go to 125th st (on the LIRR or whatever subway line was closest to my home) and then take the M60 bus to Astoria. It zips across the Triborough on its way to LaGuardia. If you get the timing down, it might be as quick as a half hour.

Imagine how nice a single seat ride on a BRT line running through the outer boroughs would be, though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That'll take Boogie an hour, at best, Mork. And he/she will have to deal with the crowded 4 all the way to Midtown... Frustratingly long when you know it's only a 10 minute drive across the Triborough Bridge.</p>
<p>If I lived in the South Bronx, i'd go to 125th st (on the LIRR or whatever subway line was closest to my home) and then take the M60 bus to Astoria. It zips across the Triborough on its way to LaGuardia. If you get the timing down, it might be as quick as a half hour.</p>
<p>Imagine how nice a single seat ride on a BRT line running through the outer boroughs would be, though...</p>
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		<title>By: mork</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/07/12/details-of-proposed-bus-service-expansion/comment-page-1/#comment-33822</link>
		<dc:creator>mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>boogie-- try the 4 to the N/W.

(You&#039;re welcome!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boogie-- try the 4 to the N/W.</p>
<p>(You're welcome!)</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/07/12/details-of-proposed-bus-service-expansion/comment-page-1/#comment-33817</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are welcome transit improvements and good politics. But pricing is the right way to go whether transit improvements are implemented first or not. The social and economic benefits so outweigh the costs that even if you took the money and bought gold paper weights (or gave raises to the assembly)it would still be good transpo policy. Incidentally, in cities without huge transit funding streams, pricing is a good way of raising the funds for transit expansion. So, even if Brodsky&#039;s original nonsense assertion was correct, he would still be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are welcome transit improvements and good politics. But pricing is the right way to go whether transit improvements are implemented first or not. The social and economic benefits so outweigh the costs that even if you took the money and bought gold paper weights (or gave raises to the assembly)it would still be good transpo policy. Incidentally, in cities without huge transit funding streams, pricing is a good way of raising the funds for transit expansion. So, even if Brodsky's original nonsense assertion was correct, he would still be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Boogiedown</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/07/12/details-of-proposed-bus-service-expansion/comment-page-1/#comment-33815</link>
		<dc:creator>Boogiedown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And STILL there is no way to get from the South Bronx to Astoria! Great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And STILL there is no way to get from the South Bronx to Astoria! Great!</p>
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		<title>By: brent</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/07/12/details-of-proposed-bus-service-expansion/comment-page-1/#comment-33808</link>
		<dc:creator>brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am both amazed at disappointed at the fact that I can&#039;t get this sort of straightforward information from the for-profit mainstream media. I feel like I am getting the only reliable and in depth reporting from sites like this. I read Metro Paper this morning (something I wouldn’t normally do). It’s not on their web page yet, and I’ve since tossed it out, but basically they booted Paris Hilton off the front page so they could debate how cong charging will hurt the little guy. They crunch all kinds of moronic math appealing to populist and PC tendencies like- (quote loosely), “If an elderly, handy-capable, veteran, blue collar person lives on 90th, and wants to go to 80th to volunteer to donate blood and have an unformed Siamese twin removed on the same avenue, why should they pay $8 to go ten blocks?” Or- “If I live above the cong charge zone and need to circle the block a few times to find parking, will I end up paying $600? Gee- $600 a day for 365 days a year equals $219,000!!”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am both amazed at disappointed at the fact that I can't get this sort of straightforward information from the for-profit mainstream media. I feel like I am getting the only reliable and in depth reporting from sites like this. I read Metro Paper this morning (something I wouldn’t normally do). It’s not on their web page yet, and I’ve since tossed it out, but basically they booted Paris Hilton off the front page so they could debate how cong charging will hurt the little guy. They crunch all kinds of moronic math appealing to populist and PC tendencies like- (quote loosely), “If an elderly, handy-capable, veteran, blue collar person lives on 90th, and wants to go to 80th to volunteer to donate blood and have an unformed Siamese twin removed on the same avenue, why should they pay $8 to go ten blocks?” Or- “If I live above the cong charge zone and need to circle the block a few times to find parking, will I end up paying $600? Gee- $600 a day for 365 days a year equals $219,000!!”</p>
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