Comments on: Where Do New York City Bike Commuters Come From? http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:31:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: J. Mork http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-110221 J. Mork Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:16:43 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-110221 Did you look at the study? http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/transportation/bike_survey.pdf See "Figure 27 - Where does your commutation trip begin?" New Jersey: 2% Did you look at the study?

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/transportation/bike_survey.pdf

See "Figure 27 - Where does your commutation trip begin?"

New Jersey: 2%

]]> By: Sam http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-109891 Sam Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:02:24 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-109891 The name of the survey is 'Where Do New York City Bike Commuters Come From?' However, New Jersey isn't counted. In fact, doesn't even exist. The 'study' either needs to choose a better name or preferably do it's job so the what is presented has some semblance to reality. The name of the survey is 'Where Do New York City Bike Commuters Come From?' However, New Jersey isn't counted. In fact, doesn't even exist. The 'study' either needs to choose a better name or preferably do it's job so the what is presented has some semblance to reality.

]]> By: Keith http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-33121 Keith Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:49:45 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-33121 Much better. Thanks! Much better. Thanks!

]]> By: Angus Grieve-Smith http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-33024 Angus Grieve-Smith Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:20:54 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-33024 That sounds like it's worth a try. I haven't been down that way in a while, but I remember Myrtle, Flushing and Broadway as being nicer to ride on than Metropolitan or Queens Boulevard. Let us know how it goes. That sounds like it's worth a try. I haven't been down that way in a while, but I remember Myrtle, Flushing and Broadway as being nicer to ride on than Metropolitan or Queens Boulevard. Let us know how it goes.

]]> By: Keith http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-33020 Keith Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:47:59 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-33020 So... Myrtle -> Bushwick -> Flushing -> Broadway? So... Myrtle -> Bushwick -> Flushing -> Broadway?

]]> By: Angus Grieve-Smith http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-33004 Angus Grieve-Smith Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:27:24 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-33004 I agree about Metropolitan; it's one of the most stressful streets I know to bike on, especially in the Newtown Creek industrial area. Myrtle is a bit nicer; you might want to try going south a bit earlier and cutting through some of the side streets in Glendale, or through Ridgewood and Bushwick. I agree about Metropolitan; it's one of the most stressful streets I know to bike on, especially in the Newtown Creek industrial area.

Myrtle is a bit nicer; you might want to try going south a bit earlier and cutting through some of the side streets in Glendale, or through Ridgewood and Bushwick.

]]> By: Keith http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-33002 Keith Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:12:32 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-33002 Thanks! Greenpoint used to be great for getting over to Borden Ave. when I worked in Sunnyside. Maybe I should try that. I did start experimenting with the Williamsburg Bridge, but not the way you suggested: http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/45930 It saves me a mile and a half from my Queensboro Bridge route, but coming home, it feels like it's all uphill. It's better on the outbound portion of the commute, and the long downhills are fun, but I just don't enjoy riding on Metropolitan and Grand; it seems even less safe than Queens Boulevard, and it's really ugly. Thanks! Greenpoint used to be great for getting over to Borden Ave. when I worked in Sunnyside. Maybe I should try that.

I did start experimenting with the Williamsburg Bridge, but not the way you suggested:

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/45930

It saves me a mile and a half from my Queensboro Bridge route, but coming home, it feels like it's all uphill. It's better on the outbound portion of the commute, and the long downhills are fun, but I just don't enjoy riding on Metropolitan and Grand; it seems even less safe than Queens Boulevard, and it's really ugly.

]]> By: Angus Grieve-Smith http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-32994 Angus Grieve-Smith Sun, 24 Jun 2007 00:03:50 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-32994 Since your bike route goes right past my apartment in Woodside, Keith, I have a suggestion for you. I used to work in Soho, and I took the Greenpoint Avenue Bridge and the Williamsburg Bridge. Thanks for the pointer to Bikely. Here's my old commute route: http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Angus-s-Old-Commute-2003 Since your bike route goes right past my apartment in Woodside, Keith, I have a suggestion for you. I used to work in Soho, and I took the Greenpoint Avenue Bridge and the Williamsburg Bridge.

Thanks for the pointer to Bikely. Here's my old commute route:

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Angus-s-Old-Commute-2003

]]> By: Keith Snyder http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-32993 Keith Snyder Sat, 23 Jun 2007 22:36:27 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-32993 I stumbled over this page while trying to find an alternative to 2nd Ave., which the city has the nerve to include on the official bike path map. I commute from Queens (Rego Park) to Wall Street. TG, you might be interested in knowing that bike and subway take exactly the same amount of time for me, door-to-door: About 70 minutes. Less if I push, more if I dawdle. Here's my route: http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Keith-s-unnecessarily-long-commute I stumbled over this page while trying to find an alternative to 2nd Ave., which the city has the nerve to include on the official bike path map.

I commute from Queens (Rego Park) to Wall Street. TG, you might be interested in knowing that bike and subway take exactly the same amount of time for me, door-to-door: About 70 minutes. Less if I push, more if I dawdle.

Here's my route:

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Keith-s-unnecessarily-long-commute

]]> By: Orcutt http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-31584 Orcutt Fri, 11 May 2007 17:14:08 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-31584 The relatively low rates for northern Brooklyn and the E. Village compared to Park Slope suggests this is a very self-selecting bunch who responded. Go look at the Williamsburg Bridge path sometime. The relatively low rates for northern Brooklyn and the E. Village compared to Park Slope suggests this is a very self-selecting bunch who responded. Go look at the Williamsburg Bridge path sometime.

]]> By: Aaron Naparstek http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-31573 Aaron Naparstek Fri, 11 May 2007 14:19:27 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-31573 Yeah, this is not the most scientific survey. It certainly must undercount the immigrant delivery guy cyclist population. I doubt that too many of those fellows are doing online surveys for City Planning. However, the data pretty well corresponds to surveys and studies that have come out in previous years from TA and the City. Noah Budnick has long been saying that the neighborhoods around Downtown Brooklyn have the highest rates of bike commuting in the city. My sense is that, overall, this is probably a pretty accurate snapshot. Yeah, this is not the most scientific survey. It certainly must undercount the immigrant delivery guy cyclist population. I doubt that too many of those fellows are doing online surveys for City Planning.

However, the data pretty well corresponds to surveys and studies that have come out in previous years from TA and the City. Noah Budnick has long been saying that the neighborhoods around Downtown Brooklyn have the highest rates of bike commuting in the city.

My sense is that, overall, this is probably a pretty accurate snapshot.

]]> By: skeptic http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-31571 skeptic Fri, 11 May 2007 02:33:37 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-31571 These figures represent the number internet survey takers who also ride bikes, not the population as a whole, as has already been pointed out. These figures represent the number internet survey takers who also ride bikes, not the population as a whole, as has already been pointed out.

]]> By: Dan Icolari http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-31570 Dan Icolari Thu, 10 May 2007 22:12:34 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-31570 I was pleasantly surprised to see that "Oh, yeah, that's right, you live on Staten Island" isn't one of the dead gray zones for bike commuting, which I admit is what I expected. Better yet, according to the map, my own close-to-the-ferry sector--including the neighborhoods of Stapleton, Tompkinsville, St. George and New Brighton--is actually pretty well represented. Coming on the heels of the announcement the other day of a proposed pedestrian- and streetlife-friendly courthouse complex in St. George (replacing a huge parking lot on a valuable, strategically located site), this is turning out to have been a pretty good week. I was pleasantly surprised to see that "Oh, yeah, that's right, you live on Staten Island" isn't one of the dead gray zones for bike commuting, which I admit is what I expected. Better yet, according to the map, my own close-to-the-ferry sector--including the neighborhoods of Stapleton, Tompkinsville, St. George and New Brighton--is actually pretty well represented.

Coming on the heels of the announcement the other day of a proposed pedestrian- and streetlife-friendly courthouse complex in St. George (replacing a huge parking lot on a valuable, strategically located site), this is turning out to have been a pretty good week.

]]> By: Steve http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-31565 Steve Thu, 10 May 2007 20:10:54 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-31565 Check out page 1 of the report. It is a picture of the Centre Street bike lane, 100% filled with parked cars! Someone has a sense of humor. Despite all the the report' limitations, including sample size, failure to correct for differences in population by zip code, (and I'm sure there are more) it is very interesting and should lend support to efforts to increase cycling. I especially like the "write-in" comments begining at page 43. Check out page 1 of the report. It is a picture of the Centre Street bike lane, 100% filled with parked cars! Someone has a sense of humor.

Despite all the the report' limitations, including sample size, failure to correct for differences in population by zip code, (and I'm sure there are more) it is very interesting and should lend support to efforts to increase cycling. I especially like the "write-in" comments begining at page 43.

]]> By: TG http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-31557 TG Thu, 10 May 2007 18:36:53 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-31557 Careful how you interpret the low numbers in Queens. I think the immigrant/language issue cited above is important. But also keep in mind that residents in Central and Eastern Queens have longer commute times to work. It takes me an hour to get to work by subway.... even though I used to cycle to work in every other city I lived in, it's not practical for where I currently live and work. That doesn't mean cycling isn't popular in these areas for errands and other non-work trips. Careful how you interpret the low numbers in Queens. I think the immigrant/language issue cited above is important. But also keep in mind that residents in Central and Eastern Queens have longer commute times to work. It takes me an hour to get to work by subway.... even though I used to cycle to work in every other city I lived in, it's not practical for where I currently live and work. That doesn't mean cycling isn't popular in these areas for errands and other non-work trips.

]]> By: mfs http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-31556 mfs Thu, 10 May 2007 17:54:49 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-31556 keep in mind that this was an internet survey and therefore probably did not capture the very large immigrant biking community. the 2000 Census or 2005 American Community Survey are currently the best sources of information for biking commutation. keep in mind that this was an internet survey and therefore probably did not capture the very large immigrant biking community. the 2000 Census or 2005 American Community Survey are currently the best sources of information for biking commutation.

]]> By: 10025 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-31555 10025 Thu, 10 May 2007 17:39:45 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/10/where-do-nyc-bike-commuters-come-from/#comment-31555 This is cool. One thing to consider is that zip codes have very different numbers of people living in them. 10025 (UPW Manh. 9ast to 115th St)= 96,453 11215 (Park Slope)= 63,000 11201 (downtown Bklyn Ft Greene) = 50,000 This is cool. One thing to consider is that zip codes have very different numbers of people living in them.
10025 (UPW Manh. 9ast to 115th St)= 96,453
11215 (Park Slope)= 63,000
11201 (downtown Bklyn Ft Greene) = 50,000

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