Comments on: Biofuels, Bus Lanes and Beer http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/09/biofuels-bus-lanes-and-beer/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:07:22 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Chris Ward http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/09/biofuels-bus-lanes-and-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-31559 Chris Ward Thu, 10 May 2007 19:13:19 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/09/biofuels-bus-lanes-and-beer/#comment-31559 Thanks for the post. It does a good job of hitting the highlights from this interesting workshop. In addition to Dr. Schipper's entertaining (and informed) quotes referenced above, he also discussed a number of other issues besides congestion pricing and biofuels. These included the need for better fuel economy standards and more modest vehicles, as well as better land use planning and other measures designed to reduce the need to travel. To get more info, including a copy of Dr. Schipper's slides and a podcast of the talk visit: http://embarqblog.wri.org/?p=109#more-109 Thanks for the post. It does a good job of hitting the highlights from this interesting workshop.

In addition to Dr. Schipper's entertaining (and informed) quotes referenced above, he also discussed a number of other issues besides congestion pricing and biofuels. These included the need for better fuel economy standards and more modest vehicles, as well as better land use planning and other measures designed to reduce the need to travel.

To get more info, including a copy of Dr. Schipper's slides and a podcast of the talk visit:

http://embarqblog.wri.org/?p=109#more-109

]]> By: Impressed http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/09/biofuels-bus-lanes-and-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-31547 Impressed Thu, 10 May 2007 13:18:32 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/09/biofuels-bus-lanes-and-beer/#comment-31547 Ecoconvivial transport existed many years before the rapid emergence of the highly aggresssive transport produced by the industrial age and coincident rapid acceleration of affluence -- indicating a kind of cargo cult mentality towards the perception of its importance -- and it is highly misleading to describe those hundreds of millions who daily bicycle, sail, row, walk, etc. as using a lesser and alternative transport. Hybrid human-electric transport can achieve and surpass most of the prevailing perceived attributes of conventional transportation more aptly terms ecodestructive transport. Ecoconvivial transport existed many years before the rapid emergence of the highly aggresssive transport produced by the industrial age and coincident rapid acceleration of affluence -- indicating a kind of cargo cult mentality towards the perception of its importance -- and it is highly misleading to describe those hundreds of millions who daily bicycle, sail, row, walk, etc. as using a lesser and alternative transport.

Hybrid human-electric transport can achieve and surpass most of the prevailing perceived attributes of conventional transportation more aptly terms ecodestructive transport.

]]> By: gecko http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/09/biofuels-bus-lanes-and-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-31546 gecko Thu, 10 May 2007 11:53:41 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/09/biofuels-bus-lanes-and-beer/#comment-31546 amen amen

]]> By: crzwdjk http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/09/biofuels-bus-lanes-and-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-31543 crzwdjk Wed, 09 May 2007 21:36:03 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/09/biofuels-bus-lanes-and-beer/#comment-31543 I have an idea for a "GreenTEA": defer all federally funded highway projects that are not absolutely necessary to keep things from collapsing for five years. Instead, spend $250 billion over 5 years building alternative transportation. This includes subways, light rail, streetcars, trolleybuses, commuter rail (preferably electric), intercity rail, even freight rail, as well as bikeways and sidewalks. Give public transportation a chance, at least for 5 years, and fund all the worthwhile projects that cities desperately want to build but can't for lack of funding. I have an idea for a "GreenTEA": defer all federally funded highway projects that are not absolutely necessary to keep things from collapsing for five years. Instead, spend $250 billion over 5 years building alternative transportation. This includes subways, light rail, streetcars, trolleybuses, commuter rail (preferably electric), intercity rail, even freight rail, as well as bikeways and sidewalks. Give public transportation a chance, at least for 5 years, and fund all the worthwhile projects that cities desperately want to build but can't for lack of funding.

]]> By: dan http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/09/biofuels-bus-lanes-and-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-31537 dan Wed, 09 May 2007 18:53:23 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/09/biofuels-bus-lanes-and-beer/#comment-31537 There's an inconvenient truth in all of this. Blame biofuels, blame global warming, blame peak oil-- the reality is we're at the end of the private auto age.Whether it's the Prius or the suv, the world can't survive if the Chinese take to private autos the way the West did. There's an inconvenient truth in all of this. Blame biofuels, blame global warming, blame peak oil-- the reality is we're at the end of the private auto age.Whether it's the Prius or the suv, the world can't survive if the Chinese take to private autos the way the West did.

]]> By: Charlie D. http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/09/biofuels-bus-lanes-and-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-31536 Charlie D. Wed, 09 May 2007 17:30:52 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/09/biofuels-bus-lanes-and-beer/#comment-31536 Here is a Boston Globe article about it: http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/04/22/mass_steps_up_climate_rules_for_developers/ Here is a Boston Globe article about it:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/04/22/mass_steps_up_climate_rules_for_developers/

]]> By: Charles Siegel http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/09/biofuels-bus-lanes-and-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-31534 Charles Siegel Wed, 09 May 2007 16:40:10 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/09/biofuels-bus-lanes-and-beer/#comment-31534 "Massachusetts now requires the disclosure of CO2 impacts as part of all plans for transportation and land use development." If this were adopted generally, it would make a big difference in planning. Anyone have more information about it? "Massachusetts now requires the disclosure of CO2 impacts as part of all plans for transportation and land use development."

If this were adopted generally, it would make a big difference in planning. Anyone have more information about it?

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