Comments on: Choose Your Own Hells Kitchen http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/07/choose-your-own-hells-kitchen/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:01:47 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: comentz http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/07/choose-your-own-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-31500 comentz Tue, 08 May 2007 20:01:33 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/07/choose-your-own-hells-kitchen/#comment-31500 There is ample evidence that water hypothesis can't explain traffic flow, as explained by Jacob Jacob's in her book titled "Dark Ages Ahead." She provides, on page 75 of her book, a section from a report conducted by a research team at the University Of London which states that, on average, 20% of traffic vanishes when a road is closed in cases studied, and in some cases that rate jumps to 60% (page 75). She also writes that in and around Washington Square when a street was closed there was no evidence that "other streets were inundated by thwarted traffic, and speeding traffic wonderfully decreased." (page 74) There is ample evidence that water hypothesis can't explain traffic flow, as explained by Jacob Jacob's in her book titled "Dark Ages Ahead."

She provides, on page 75 of her book, a section from a report conducted by a research team at the University Of London which states that, on average, 20% of traffic vanishes when a road is closed in cases studied, and in some cases that rate jumps to 60% (page 75).

She also writes that in and around Washington Square when a street was closed there was no evidence that "other streets were inundated by thwarted traffic, and speeding traffic wonderfully decreased." (page 74)

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/07/choose-your-own-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-31478 Anonymous Tue, 08 May 2007 14:08:28 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/07/choose-your-own-hells-kitchen/#comment-31478 I can tell you where the Lincoln Tunnel traffic could go. It could go away (or at least be very reduced) by introducing tolls and license plate-specific restrictions on driving into or through Manhattan, like those they have in London and a lot of other major cities around the world. These restrictions work, and no, they don't oppress the poor while favoring the rich--everyone with, say, even-numbered license plate is barred on designated days (ever heard of public transportation?). We might then eventually have a city where one could walk several blocks without getting poisoned by fine particles and ground-level ozone (NYC is one of the worst places in the U.S. in that regard), and even--imagine that!--be able to actually enjoy sitting at a sidewalk coffee table on 9th Avenue. I can tell you where the Lincoln Tunnel traffic could go. It could go away (or at least be very reduced) by introducing tolls and license plate-specific restrictions on driving into or through Manhattan, like those they have in London and a lot of other major cities around the world. These restrictions work, and no, they don't oppress the poor while favoring the rich--everyone with, say, even-numbered license plate is barred on designated days (ever heard of public transportation?). We might then eventually have a city where one could walk several blocks without getting poisoned by fine particles and ground-level ozone (NYC is one of the worst places in the U.S. in that regard), and even--imagine that!--be able to actually enjoy sitting at a sidewalk coffee table on 9th Avenue.

]]> By: Hugo http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/07/choose-your-own-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-31476 Hugo Tue, 08 May 2007 12:23:04 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/07/choose-your-own-hells-kitchen/#comment-31476 I agree that the tunnel traffic on 9th Ave can be hellish and the proposals for 9th are a nice concept but where exactly would the Lincoln Tunnel traffic go? It doesn't really solve the problem - it would just push the traffic onto another street. I agree that the tunnel traffic on 9th Ave can be hellish and the proposals for 9th are a nice concept but where exactly would the Lincoln Tunnel traffic go? It doesn't really solve the problem - it would just push the traffic onto another street.

]]> By: comentz http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/07/choose-your-own-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-31463 comentz Tue, 08 May 2007 01:19:06 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/07/choose-your-own-hells-kitchen/#comment-31463 One way to deal with the nay-sayers at DOT would be to partner with a politician working in the area. Are there allies of the group's efforts who can spearhead a charge to get these or other fresh ideas implemented? One way to deal with the nay-sayers at DOT would be to partner with a politician working in the area. Are there allies of the group's efforts who can spearhead a charge to get these or other fresh ideas implemented?

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