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		<title>By: Alexandra  Woods</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/04/23/how-green-is-our-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-31272</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandra  Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 12:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will contact my legislators right away.  And I have some questions/suggestions.  Would it be possible for hard hit communities to target themselves, and require specific new bus lines in exchange for voting for this plan?  How would small business truckers which often serve small businesses survive with $21 tax?  What about exempting trucks which bring in locally grown, especially organic, produce? NY State&#039;s organic farmers are being wiped out by &quot;organic businesses&quot; in California etc. which get tax credits to offset their gas consumption across the country. See recent Maxine Hong Kingston article - sorry I can&#039;t remember source - Google it.  How about working with Genara Carter who got a McCarther Award for her work on environmental racism in the South Bronx?   This is a really interesting discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will contact my legislators right away.  And I have some questions/suggestions.  Would it be possible for hard hit communities to target themselves, and require specific new bus lines in exchange for voting for this plan?  How would small business truckers which often serve small businesses survive with $21 tax?  What about exempting trucks which bring in locally grown, especially organic, produce? NY State&#8217;s organic farmers are being wiped out by &#8220;organic businesses&#8221; in California etc. which get tax credits to offset their gas consumption across the country. See recent Maxine Hong Kingston article &#8211; sorry I can&#8217;t remember source &#8211; Google it.  How about working with Genara Carter who got a McCarther Award for her work on environmental racism in the South Bronx?   This is a really interesting discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/04/23/how-green-is-our-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-31235</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 13:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without having sweated the details, what&#039;s interesting about Bloomberg&#039;s plan is that it seems to be a big systems and big business approach -- speaking to the people and institutions that can make things happen -- in an attempt to put the money, resources, and human capital in place to adapt to the currently unknown and potentially daunting dynamics of dramatic climate change where the concept of paying eight dollars to drive into the city, let alone driving into the city at all, may hopefully soon seem as naively retro as paying a nickel to take the Staten Island Ferry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without having sweated the details, what&#8217;s interesting about Bloomberg&#8217;s plan is that it seems to be a big systems and big business approach &#8212; speaking to the people and institutions that can make things happen &#8212; in an attempt to put the money, resources, and human capital in place to adapt to the currently unknown and potentially daunting dynamics of dramatic climate change where the concept of paying eight dollars to drive into the city, let alone driving into the city at all, may hopefully soon seem as naively retro as paying a nickel to take the Staten Island Ferry.</p>
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		<title>By: steveo</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/04/23/how-green-is-our-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-31206</link>
		<dc:creator>steveo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Folks, these calls to your state legislators and other electeds with reports here are very valuable - please keep doing it and posting what they say here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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Dear Mr. [Steveo]:
 
I have not taken a position regarding congestion pricing and am reviewing documents provided to me by the Bloomberg Administration. I thank you for your calling.
 
Letitia James &lt;/blockquote&gt;

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(No reponse yet from Joan Millman or Eric Adams.)

(Find out who your reps are and/or their contact info here:
http://www.cmap.nypirg.org/netmaps/MyGovernment/NYC/MyGovernmentNYC.asp
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Folks, these calls to your state legislators and other electeds with reports here are very valuable &#8211; please keep doing it and posting what they say here.</p></blockquote>
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Dear Mr. [Steveo]:</p>
<p>I have not taken a position regarding congestion pricing and am reviewing documents provided to me by the Bloomberg Administration. I thank you for your calling.</p>
<p>Letitia James </p></blockquote>
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<p>(No reponse yet from Joan Millman or Eric Adams.)</p>
<p>(Find out who your reps are and/or their contact info here:<br />
<a href="http://www.cmap.nypirg.org/netmaps/MyGovernment/NYC/MyGovernmentNYC.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.cmap.nypirg.org/netmaps/MyGovernment/NYC/MyGovernmentNYC.asp</a><br />
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/04/23/how-green-is-our-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-31191</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a factor that may end up pushing the congestion pricing proposal over the top:  security.  It cannot be the City is proposing a surveillance ring around Manhattan south of 86th Street without considering its utility in monitoring potential security threats.  Don&#039;t try to tell me that data gathered by congestion pricing enforcement cameras will not be used for surveillance purposes (along with the cameras involved in the &quot;dramatic expansion of electronic red light ticketing&quot;).  There are a lot of people who don&#039;t give a dman about the environment who will be sold on the idea that &quot;no one gets in or out of midtown or lower Manhattan in a private vehicle without us seeing them.&quot;

In the end it may be hard to tell whether this  proposal co-opts the liberals on civil liberties issues or co-opts the conservatives on environmental issues.

The police have conducted such oppressive video surveillance of bicyclists for so long, now its the motorists&#039; turn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a factor that may end up pushing the congestion pricing proposal over the top:  security.  It cannot be the City is proposing a surveillance ring around Manhattan south of 86th Street without considering its utility in monitoring potential security threats.  Don&#8217;t try to tell me that data gathered by congestion pricing enforcement cameras will not be used for surveillance purposes (along with the cameras involved in the &#8220;dramatic expansion of electronic red light ticketing&#8221;).  There are a lot of people who don&#8217;t give a dman about the environment who will be sold on the idea that &#8220;no one gets in or out of midtown or lower Manhattan in a private vehicle without us seeing them.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the end it may be hard to tell whether this  proposal co-opts the liberals on civil liberties issues or co-opts the conservatives on environmental issues.</p>
<p>The police have conducted such oppressive video surveillance of bicyclists for so long, now its the motorists&#8217; turn.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read that, Howard.  Yes, his main focus was on global warming.  But he did not focus &lt;b&gt;exclusively&lt;/b&gt; on it; he mentioned several other reasons to implement congestion pricing.

Also, what Xue said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that, Howard.  Yes, his main focus was on global warming.  But he did not focus <b>exclusively</b> on it; he mentioned several other reasons to implement congestion pricing.</p>
<p>Also, what Xue said.</p>
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		<title>By: Xue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard - I haven&#039;t heard you make any useful suggestions yet.  If you&#039;re saying that you&#039;d rather the mayor of the largest city in the US do nothing rather than make an unprecedented, humongous step in the right direction - in comparison to any other US city, or perhaps international for that matter - then I disagree with you completely.

It&#039;s a lot easier to demand change than to actually make change - so consider putting your obviously passionate interest in global climate change in a more productive direction than slamming as inadequate the most progressive activities by our current politicians to date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard &#8211; I haven&#8217;t heard you make any useful suggestions yet.  If you&#8217;re saying that you&#8217;d rather the mayor of the largest city in the US do nothing rather than make an unprecedented, humongous step in the right direction &#8211; in comparison to any other US city, or perhaps international for that matter &#8211; then I disagree with you completely.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a lot easier to demand change than to actually make change &#8211; so consider putting your obviously passionate interest in global climate change in a more productive direction than slamming as inadequate the most progressive activities by our current politicians to date.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angus,please re-read the Bloomberg speech:

&quot;Climate change is a national challenge, and meeting it requires strong and united national leadership,&quot; the mayor said to an appreciative invited audience at the American Museum of Natural History. &quot;The fact is, the emerging consensus among scientists is that, to avoid serious harm, we must reduce our emissions by 60 to 80 percent by 2050.  That means we canâ€™t â€“- and we wonâ€™t â€“- wait for Washington. The time to act is now.&quot;

Climate change was clearly the focus.  How could it not be?  We&#039;re speaking of a threat to the planetary support system.  Local quality of life issues are a sideshow in comparison.  The program will be judged on the terms it originally chose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angus,please re-read the Bloomberg speech:</p>
<p>&#8220;Climate change is a national challenge, and meeting it requires strong and united national leadership,&#8221; the mayor said to an appreciative invited audience at the American Museum of Natural History. &#8220;The fact is, the emerging consensus among scientists is that, to avoid serious harm, we must reduce our emissions by 60 to 80 percent by 2050.  That means we canâ€™t â€“- and we wonâ€™t â€“- wait for Washington. The time to act is now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Climate change was clearly the focus.  How could it not be?  We&#8217;re speaking of a threat to the planetary support system.  Local quality of life issues are a sideshow in comparison.  The program will be judged on the terms it originally chose.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard, the mayor said &quot;The question is not whether we want to pay but how do we want to pay. With an increased asthma rate? With more greenhouse gases? Wasted time? Lost business? And higher prices?&quot;

He did not focus exclusively on greenhouse gases.  If all you care about is global warming, maybe the political will is better spent elsewhere.  But if you add to the greenhouse gases the asthma, crash deaths, etc., it&#039;s definitely worth it.

I&#039;m starting to get frustrated at rebutting single-issue environmentalists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard, the mayor said &#8220;The question is not whether we want to pay but how do we want to pay. With an increased asthma rate? With more greenhouse gases? Wasted time? Lost business? And higher prices?&#8221;</p>
<p>He did not focus exclusively on greenhouse gases.  If all you care about is global warming, maybe the political will is better spent elsewhere.  But if you add to the greenhouse gases the asthma, crash deaths, etc., it&#8217;s definitely worth it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting to get frustrated at rebutting single-issue environmentalists.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/04/23/how-green-is-our-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-31131</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee, I don&#039;t think that&#039;s that big a problem.  The current tolls already work to deter congestion; the leaks are really in the so-called free bridges.

If the zone limit is at 86th Street, maybe it would be too much work to put an EZ-pass gate on Park Drive South.  They might just have to close the park to cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee, I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s that big a problem.  The current tolls already work to deter congestion; the leaks are really in the so-called free bridges.</p>
<p>If the zone limit is at 86th Street, maybe it would be too much work to put an EZ-pass gate on Park Drive South.  They might just have to close the park to cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloomberg was introduced by Tony Blair, which is completely appropriate: Everything Bloomberg is proposing and more has already been done in Britain and it hasnâ€™t made a difference. Growth in aviation and shipping has overwhelmed whatever slight gains were made by congestion pricing and other reforms. 

&quot;Scientists say British greenhouse gas emissions now higher than in 1990&quot; 
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,,1727885,00.html 

The fact that this information about shipping and aviation emissions has been in the public record for over a year even debunks the notion that Bloomberg has good intentions for the environment, but is misinformed. He wants to become president by looking like he gives a damn about our future when he really doesnâ€™t. 

Re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic aint gonna cut it, particularly when people like James Hansen of NASA say weâ€™ve got 5 years to save ourselves. Aviation and shipping have gotta go down within the next five years, and thereâ€™s no way thatâ€™s going to happen under a growth-based economic system. 

â€œA report by the Tyndall Centre [University of Manchester] said a UK government target of a 60% cut in emissions by *2050 is insufficient* and needs to be 70% by 2030. 

But it requires a major programme of action within *the next four years*â€ 

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5347790.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloomberg was introduced by Tony Blair, which is completely appropriate: Everything Bloomberg is proposing and more has already been done in Britain and it hasnâ€™t made a difference. Growth in aviation and shipping has overwhelmed whatever slight gains were made by congestion pricing and other reforms. </p>
<p>&#8220;Scientists say British greenhouse gas emissions now higher than in 1990&#8243;<br />
 <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,,1727885,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,,1727885,00.html</a> </p>
<p>The fact that this information about shipping and aviation emissions has been in the public record for over a year even debunks the notion that Bloomberg has good intentions for the environment, but is misinformed. He wants to become president by looking like he gives a damn about our future when he really doesnâ€™t. </p>
<p>Re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic aint gonna cut it, particularly when people like James Hansen of NASA say weâ€™ve got 5 years to save ourselves. Aviation and shipping have gotta go down within the next five years, and thereâ€™s no way thatâ€™s going to happen under a growth-based economic system. </p>
<p>â€œA report by the Tyndall Centre [University of Manchester] said a UK government target of a 60% cut in emissions by *2050 is insufficient* and needs to be 70% by 2030. </p>
<p>But it requires a major programme of action within *the next four years*â€ </p>
<p> <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5347790.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5347790.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as much as i like the idea, i am beginning to think that in its current configuratin it wont work. if tolls paid at river crossings are discoutned from the congestion charge then anyone currently using a tolled crossing wont see any change in cost and no incentive to change their behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as much as i like the idea, i am beginning to think that in its current configuratin it wont work. if tolls paid at river crossings are discoutned from the congestion charge then anyone currently using a tolled crossing wont see any change in cost and no incentive to change their behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Tax or Fee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tax or Fee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please ask Carrion, Weiner, Quinn and the other mayor wannabees what their genius plan is.

What chumps.

Someone please stuff the &quot;This is a tax on working people&quot; rhetoric up their a**es. Everyone who rides a subway bus or commuter rail is already paying a &quot;tax&quot; to not pollute the air and not jam the roads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please ask Carrion, Weiner, Quinn and the other mayor wannabees what their genius plan is.</p>
<p>What chumps.</p>
<p>Someone please stuff the &#8220;This is a tax on working people&#8221; rhetoric up their a**es. Everyone who rides a subway bus or commuter rail is already paying a &#8220;tax&#8221; to not pollute the air and not jam the roads.</p>
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		<title>By: futurebird</title>
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		<dc:creator>futurebird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call your reps, people! I just called mine. They have **no idea** if this is a good idea or not. They need to know that LOTS of people support this, so we need to speak up.

I&#039;m so glad that this is being talked about. NYC is always the first city in the US to get a clue about these things. Let&#039;s lead the way for the rest of the US!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call your reps, people! I just called mine. They have **no idea** if this is a good idea or not. They need to know that LOTS of people support this, so we need to speak up.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so glad that this is being talked about. NYC is always the first city in the US to get a clue about these things. Let&#8217;s lead the way for the rest of the US!</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolo Macchiavelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicolo Macchiavelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The congestion pricing portion of the plan has my full support and I will work hard politically to put it through.  However, its core appeal beyond the obvious decongestion strategy is to transfer financing to mass transit.  This will not create any renaissance in MTA capital financing.  It will only partly replace the cuts in tax based financing that were at the core of the Pataki and Giuliani eras.  The black hole of MTA debt created by those two will suck up all of the congestion pricing dollars and then more.  The real boon for the MTA will be on increased ridership, loads and capacity utilization.  And, the riders have already been picking up a heavier and heavier debt load since those tax cuts.  The fares will be supporting even more of the capital program.  Standing room will continue to pay for the MTA Capital program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The congestion pricing portion of the plan has my full support and I will work hard politically to put it through.  However, its core appeal beyond the obvious decongestion strategy is to transfer financing to mass transit.  This will not create any renaissance in MTA capital financing.  It will only partly replace the cuts in tax based financing that were at the core of the Pataki and Giuliani eras.  The black hole of MTA debt created by those two will suck up all of the congestion pricing dollars and then more.  The real boon for the MTA will be on increased ridership, loads and capacity utilization.  And, the riders have already been picking up a heavier and heavier debt load since those tax cuts.  The fares will be supporting even more of the capital program.  Standing room will continue to pay for the MTA Capital program.</p>
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		<title>By: Orcutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orcutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 20:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, if you look at the facts of the plan, the Manhattan perimeter highways are not included in the priced zone, so you could come from Long Island, cross the QB Bridge, get on the FDR and head north or west (across the GWB) without paying.  Details about getting from QB @ 2nd Avenue to the FDR (pay or not pay) so far unclear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, if you look at the facts of the plan, the Manhattan perimeter highways are not included in the priced zone, so you could come from Long Island, cross the QB Bridge, get on the FDR and head north or west (across the GWB) without paying.  Details about getting from QB @ 2nd Avenue to the FDR (pay or not pay) so far unclear.</p>
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		<title>By: mfs</title>
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		<dc:creator>mfs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis- I&#039;m confused as to how the residents of Long Island are taxed by NYC in a way that&#039;s different from visiting any other city.

Also for the record, the Throgs Neck, Midtown tunnel, Triboro, Whitestone, and Verrazano bridges are all owned by a state authority, the MTA, which if I recall correctly, operates a big, heavily-subsidized commuter rail system somewhere on Long Island.

Also didn&#039;t NYC-working Long Islanders get a big tax cut in the late 1990s with the repeal of the commuter tax?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis- I&#8217;m confused as to how the residents of Long Island are taxed by NYC in a way that&#8217;s different from visiting any other city.</p>
<p>Also for the record, the Throgs Neck, Midtown tunnel, Triboro, Whitestone, and Verrazano bridges are all owned by a state authority, the MTA, which if I recall correctly, operates a big, heavily-subsidized commuter rail system somewhere on Long Island.</p>
<p>Also didn&#8217;t NYC-working Long Islanders get a big tax cut in the late 1990s with the repeal of the commuter tax?</p>
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		<title>By: momos</title>
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		<dc:creator>momos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis - actually, the congestion pricing plan exempts the FDR drive, West Side Hwy, etc, precisely to address your complaint. People driving &quot;to the other side of the city&quot; will not pay a fee. There is a charge only for using city streets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis &#8211; actually, the congestion pricing plan exempts the FDR drive, West Side Hwy, etc, precisely to address your complaint. People driving &#8220;to the other side of the city&#8221; will not pay a fee. There is a charge only for using city streets.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Siegel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Siegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those poor people on Long Island are really suffering because of the taxes they have to pay - but they don&#039;t seem to think about the tax they are imposing on future generations because of their decision to live in a location where they drive everywhere. 

Calculate the carbon footprint of your car: it is about 20 pounds of CO2 for each gallon of gasoline you burn.  Then think about the recent report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change saying that, unless we act dramatically to slow global warming, drought will kill hundreds of millions of people in this century.  

Maybe those poor, suffering people in Long Island don&#039;t really have it so bad compared with the people who are threatened by drought.  Maybe they should be willing to back policies that make them cut back on their driving a bit in order to slow global warming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those poor people on Long Island are really suffering because of the taxes they have to pay &#8211; but they don&#8217;t seem to think about the tax they are imposing on future generations because of their decision to live in a location where they drive everywhere. </p>
<p>Calculate the carbon footprint of your car: it is about 20 pounds of CO2 for each gallon of gasoline you burn.  Then think about the recent report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change saying that, unless we act dramatically to slow global warming, drought will kill hundreds of millions of people in this century.  </p>
<p>Maybe those poor, suffering people in Long Island don&#8217;t really have it so bad compared with the people who are threatened by drought.  Maybe they should be willing to back policies that make them cut back on their driving a bit in order to slow global warming.</p>
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		<title>By: d</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis, the health of NYC directly affects people in Long Island, Westchester, CT, and NJ.  If more people can get business done in the city in a quick and efficient way, that means more money for places like where you are from.  The bedroom communities surrounding the city need an economically viable NYC.  All the mayor wants to do is make it easier for traffic to move in the city.  That benefits everyone, no matter where they live.  

Plus, that congestion charge will be put towards projects that will make your train ride in to Penn Station much more pleasurable, in one way or another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis, the health of NYC directly affects people in Long Island, Westchester, CT, and NJ.  If more people can get business done in the city in a quick and efficient way, that means more money for places like where you are from.  The bedroom communities surrounding the city need an economically viable NYC.  All the mayor wants to do is make it easier for traffic to move in the city.  That benefits everyone, no matter where they live.  </p>
<p>Plus, that congestion charge will be put towards projects that will make your train ride in to Penn Station much more pleasurable, in one way or another.</p>
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		<title>By: crzwdjk</title>
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		<dc:creator>crzwdjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 08:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis: may I recommend the Manhattan or Williamsburg bridges? Neither of these have tolls, and if I recall, both of them have recently gone through major and very expensive reconstructions. Which were paid for by the NYCDOT. Nobody forced you to live on an island, and if you don&#039;t like having to pay NYC to drive off your island, well, there&#039;s the rest of the country for you to live in. It&#039;s not like I particularly like the idea of you coming through my city and polluting my air and causing congestion either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis: may I recommend the Manhattan or Williamsburg bridges? Neither of these have tolls, and if I recall, both of them have recently gone through major and very expensive reconstructions. Which were paid for by the NYCDOT. Nobody forced you to live on an island, and if you don&#8217;t like having to pay NYC to drive off your island, well, there&#8217;s the rest of the country for you to live in. It&#8217;s not like I particularly like the idea of you coming through my city and polluting my air and causing congestion either.</p>
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