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	<title>Comments on: Bicycle Advocacy TV Ads from the Netherlands</title>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/04/18/bicycle-advocacy-tv-ads-from-the-netherlands/comment-page-1/#comment-170181</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dutch are # 1 in bikes! Ya!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dutch are # 1 in bikes! Ya!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Scharf</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/04/18/bicycle-advocacy-tv-ads-from-the-netherlands/comment-page-1/#comment-32398</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen Scharf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love these ads, and they take me back to my two wonderful bicycling vacations in Holland.  EVERYONE rides bikes in Holland, and most importantly car drivers assume that part of their job is to be safe around bikes because in Holland they&#039;re a legitimate means of transport.  People ride fast, they carry a lot of big stuff, and they have the wonderful network of bicycle lanes often separated physically from car traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love these ads, and they take me back to my two wonderful bicycling vacations in Holland.  EVERYONE rides bikes in Holland, and most importantly car drivers assume that part of their job is to be safe around bikes because in Holland they&#8217;re a legitimate means of transport.  People ride fast, they carry a lot of big stuff, and they have the wonderful network of bicycle lanes often separated physically from car traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: Marina</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/04/18/bicycle-advocacy-tv-ads-from-the-netherlands/comment-page-1/#comment-31856</link>
		<dc:creator>Marina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 18:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These were fun to watch and made me nostalgic for the civilized biking conditions in Groningen, NL, where I lived for 6 months last year and visited umpteen times in the last 11 years. 

Let me add my 2 cents to the helmet issue. I know it&#039;s hard for most of us to imagine, but bicycle commuting in Holland is just as normal as walking. Plus, people tend to go pretty slowly on those heavy Dutch bikes. When people go fitness riding on racing bikes, they often do sport a helmet.

One thing I noticed from visiting Holland for many years is even though bicycle communiting in towns is still as customary as ever (at least in Groningen) car usage seems to have increased for inter-town trips. Perhaps that&#039;s why these ads were necessary in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These were fun to watch and made me nostalgic for the civilized biking conditions in Groningen, NL, where I lived for 6 months last year and visited umpteen times in the last 11 years. </p>
<p>Let me add my 2 cents to the helmet issue. I know it&#8217;s hard for most of us to imagine, but bicycle commuting in Holland is just as normal as walking. Plus, people tend to go pretty slowly on those heavy Dutch bikes. When people go fitness riding on racing bikes, they often do sport a helmet.</p>
<p>One thing I noticed from visiting Holland for many years is even though bicycle communiting in towns is still as customary as ever (at least in Groningen) car usage seems to have increased for inter-town trips. Perhaps that&#8217;s why these ads were necessary in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Slot</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/04/18/bicycle-advocacy-tv-ads-from-the-netherlands/comment-page-1/#comment-31817</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco Slot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 17:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rfr
Every kid in the Netherlands learns how to walk, swim and cycle in no particular order. To us wearing safety equipment for cycling is just like wearing safety equipment for walking. Ridiculous.

@Stephen Rees 
It&#039;s actually a Dutch word joke. The punch-line is &quot;pak de auto&quot; which normally means &quot;take the car&quot;, but in this particular context the translation of &quot;Pak de auto. Neem de fiets&quot; would be something like &quot;Screw with the car. Take the bicycle&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rfr<br />
Every kid in the Netherlands learns how to walk, swim and cycle in no particular order. To us wearing safety equipment for cycling is just like wearing safety equipment for walking. Ridiculous.</p>
<p>@Stephen Rees<br />
It&#8217;s actually a Dutch word joke. The punch-line is &#8220;pak de auto&#8221; which normally means &#8220;take the car&#8221;, but in this particular context the translation of &#8220;Pak de auto. Neem de fiets&#8221; would be something like &#8220;Screw with the car. Take the bicycle&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Rees</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/04/18/bicycle-advocacy-tv-ads-from-the-netherlands/comment-page-1/#comment-30948</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Rees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love these ads. And it proves that you don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; to understand what they are saying. The meaning is clear. Mind you, I always mute the sound on my tv when the ads come on.

And the Saddam ad was topical at the time it was released (he was in jail awaiting trial) and the tag line &lt;b&gt;was&lt;/b&gt; translated

Just don&#039;t follow the example of the lad goofing around on his bike in the traffic jam. Here the principle of many drivers is &quot;you toucha my car, I smasha you face!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love these ads. And it proves that you don&#8217;t <i>need</i> to understand what they are saying. The meaning is clear. Mind you, I always mute the sound on my tv when the ads come on.</p>
<p>And the Saddam ad was topical at the time it was released (he was in jail awaiting trial) and the tag line <b>was</b> translated</p>
<p>Just don&#8217;t follow the example of the lad goofing around on his bike in the traffic jam. Here the principle of many drivers is &#8220;you toucha my car, I smasha you face!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: momos</title>
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		<dc:creator>momos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love these ads. Thanks for posting them.</description>
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		<title>By: v</title>
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		<dc:creator>v</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well put en,

maybe the last video, ending &quot;bikers live longer&quot; could add &quot;more bikers live even longer&quot;

a sign of dutch biking safety...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Lc943I7ag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well put en,</p>
<p>maybe the last video, ending &#8220;bikers live longer&#8221; could add &#8220;more bikers live even longer&#8221;</p>
<p>a sign of dutch biking safety&#8230;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Lc943I7ag" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Lc943I7ag</a></p>
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		<title>By: PB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Surprising not to see many helmets on those progressive Dutch heads&quot;

That&#039;s because people all over the world haven&#039;t fallen victim to the fear campaign launched by helmet makers (that we are all about to fall on our heads any second). The result has been that they continue to ride. More bikes on the road makes it safer for cyclists. Here in the US, we have allowed ourselves to believe that bikes are dangerous, thus many of us have stopped biking, thus ... wait for it ... making biking more dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Surprising not to see many helmets on those progressive Dutch heads&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because people all over the world haven&#8217;t fallen victim to the fear campaign launched by helmet makers (that we are all about to fall on our heads any second). The result has been that they continue to ride. More bikes on the road makes it safer for cyclists. Here in the US, we have allowed ourselves to believe that bikes are dangerous, thus many of us have stopped biking, thus &#8230; wait for it &#8230; making biking more dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Efficiency Nut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Efficiency Nut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rfr,
Safe bicycle infrastructure that limits the number of conflicts with vehicles helps lower the crash rate.  Time and time again, studies have shown that an increase in the number of cyclists on the road, and the resulting increased awareness/priority for cyclists among drivers is a far superior ameliorative than helmets.  

Tangent: 70 of NYC ped injuries involve the head.  According to helmet logic, peds should cross the street with something strapped to their domes.

Engineering for illegal and bad behavior is the only serious solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rfr,<br />
Safe bicycle infrastructure that limits the number of conflicts with vehicles helps lower the crash rate.  Time and time again, studies have shown that an increase in the number of cyclists on the road, and the resulting increased awareness/priority for cyclists among drivers is a far superior ameliorative than helmets.  </p>
<p>Tangent: 70 of NYC ped injuries involve the head.  According to helmet logic, peds should cross the street with something strapped to their domes.</p>
<p>Engineering for illegal and bad behavior is the only serious solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Naparstek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Naparstek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually thought it looked like a combo of Saddam and Khalid Sheik Muhammad</description>
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		<title>By: rfr</title>
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		<dc:creator>rfr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surprising not to see many helmets on those progressive Dutch heads.  Does the pro-cycling climate there include an enviably low accident rate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surprising not to see many helmets on those progressive Dutch heads.  Does the pro-cycling climate there include an enviably low accident rate?</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Goodyear</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/04/18/bicycle-advocacy-tv-ads-from-the-netherlands/comment-page-1/#comment-30911</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Goodyear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think that maybe is meant to be Saddam Hussein. Let&#039;s not perpetuate the idea that he had any connection to Al Qaeda!</description>
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