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	<title>Comments on: Ungrateful Liberal Scum, &#8220;We Do Not Summons Our Own.&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: steveo</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s one to warm your heart:

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Sheriffâ€™s Lesson About the Law
By THE NEW YORK TIMES
Published: April 12, 2007

OSHKOSH, Wis., April 11 â€” Dennis Kocken, the sheriff of Brown County, Wis., said Wednesday that he truly believed that no one was above the law â€” not even the sheriff. He wrote himself a ticket last month after he was involved in an accident in the Village of Howard, outside Green Bay.
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Dennis Kocken

Sheriff Kocken said the accident occurred after he started following a driver who had sped past him. As he moved into the lane behind her car, his attention was briefly drawn to a snowblower near the edge of the road.

â€œI was picking up speed,â€ he said, â€œand wouldnâ€™t you know it, she slowed down to turn left, and I hit her.â€ There were no injuries.

Sheriff Kocken, 52, said he talked to other police chiefs, who said he did not deserve a ticket.

â€œI still didnâ€™t feel good about it,â€ he said. â€œI couldnâ€™t sleep that night; it was bothering me.â€

He cited himself for making an unsafe lane change, and the fine was $160.80. He paid it on Wednesday, he said.

And what about the driver of the other car? She got a ticket for not wearing a seat belt.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/us/12ticket.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's one to warm your heart:</p>
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Sheriffâ€™s Lesson About the Law<br />
By THE NEW YORK TIMES<br />
Published: April 12, 2007</p>
<p>OSHKOSH, Wis., April 11 â€” Dennis Kocken, the sheriff of Brown County, Wis., said Wednesday that he truly believed that no one was above the law â€” not even the sheriff. He wrote himself a ticket last month after he was involved in an accident in the Village of Howard, outside Green Bay.<br />
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<p>Dennis Kocken</p>
<p>Sheriff Kocken said the accident occurred after he started following a driver who had sped past him. As he moved into the lane behind her car, his attention was briefly drawn to a snowblower near the edge of the road.</p>
<p>â€œI was picking up speed,â€ he said, â€œand wouldnâ€™t you know it, she slowed down to turn left, and I hit her.â€ There were no injuries.</p>
<p>Sheriff Kocken, 52, said he talked to other police chiefs, who said he did not deserve a ticket.</p>
<p>â€œI still didnâ€™t feel good about it,â€ he said. â€œI couldnâ€™t sleep that night; it was bothering me.â€</p>
<p>He cited himself for making an unsafe lane change, and the fine was $160.80. He paid it on Wednesday, he said.</p>
<p>And what about the driver of the other car? She got a ticket for not wearing a seat belt.
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		<title>By: Rich Conroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Conroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony here is that the ret. cop, who spent his adult life working on behalf of &quot;law and order&quot; is rationalizing unlimited illegal parking.  And it&#039;s the &quot;liberals&quot; he condemning who are on the side of &quot;law and order&quot; here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony here is that the ret. cop, who spent his adult life working on behalf of "law and order" is rationalizing unlimited illegal parking.  And it's the "liberals" he condemning who are on the side of "law and order" here.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Barnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, there. Whatever B.P.&#039;s father did to get the disaster scene faster is fine by me, and I&#039;m sure the possibility of his car being impounded did not enter his calculations in abandoning it. Can we step back from this volatile, irrelevant argument please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, there. Whatever B.P.'s father did to get the disaster scene faster is fine by me, and I'm sure the possibility of his car being impounded did not enter his calculations in abandoning it. Can we step back from this volatile, irrelevant argument please?</p>
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		<title>By: Bigger Picture</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigger Picture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JF,

Focusing on 9/11 for the comment is kinda off topic. But I&#039;ll clarify since I opened the door.  If the car was impounded in any case regarding an official matter, the ticket would be thrown out.  My father was on vacation when the &quot;all hands&quot; was called, and drove straight to the point in which they are supposed to: their firehouse.  In this particular case, the car was abandoned in the Bronx on side streets because people were driving north in the southbound lane.  

Courtesy is not privilege.  There is a false notion that cops and firefighters do not get tickets. They do get tickets, they do get towed when rules are broken. When rules are bent, they are given some room. In every firehouse that he&#039;s been stationed in they have stressed not using the job as an excuse. There is a bulletin in the kitchen and on my father&#039;s office door stating this.  If I&#039;m permitted to make another example, last summer there was a car illegally parked in Queens that had my father&#039;s badge number on it.  He was notified, he stated that his car wasn&#039;t in queens and it must be a fake and the car was impounded.  The ability to make fake placards shouldn&#039;t be a reason not to have them. Officials should be able to identify their transport.

And if you are wondering, several Firefighters bike to work in his house including my father.  Those that live near each other, carpool.  This is not uncommon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JF,</p>
<p>Focusing on 9/11 for the comment is kinda off topic. But I'll clarify since I opened the door.  If the car was impounded in any case regarding an official matter, the ticket would be thrown out.  My father was on vacation when the "all hands" was called, and drove straight to the point in which they are supposed to: their firehouse.  In this particular case, the car was abandoned in the Bronx on side streets because people were driving north in the southbound lane.  </p>
<p>Courtesy is not privilege.  There is a false notion that cops and firefighters do not get tickets. They do get tickets, they do get towed when rules are broken. When rules are bent, they are given some room. In every firehouse that he's been stationed in they have stressed not using the job as an excuse. There is a bulletin in the kitchen and on my father's office door stating this.  If I'm permitted to make another example, last summer there was a car illegally parked in Queens that had my father's badge number on it.  He was notified, he stated that his car wasn't in queens and it must be a fake and the car was impounded.  The ability to make fake placards shouldn't be a reason not to have them. Officials should be able to identify their transport.</p>
<p>And if you are wondering, several Firefighters bike to work in his house including my father.  Those that live near each other, carpool.  This is not uncommon.</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea and abandoning the car in gridlock traffic, great move. I&#039;m sure that made it much easier for  others to get out of harms way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea and abandoning the car in gridlock traffic, great move. I'm sure that made it much easier for  others to get out of harms way.</p>
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		<title>By: JF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bigger Picture, wouldn&#039;t it have been better to impound the car?  I&#039;m sure the judge would have thrown out the ticket if your father had presented evidence that he had abandoned his car in order to help the rescue effort.

Also, thanks for contradicting the claim that first responders &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; to drive private vehicles so that they can get to the scene in the event of an emergency.  A private car didn&#039;t help your father get to the scene, and probably made it worse for other responders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bigger Picture, wouldn't it have been better to impound the car?  I'm sure the judge would have thrown out the ticket if your father had presented evidence that he had abandoned his car in order to help the rescue effort.</p>
<p>Also, thanks for contradicting the claim that first responders <i>need</i> to drive private vehicles so that they can get to the scene in the event of an emergency.  A private car didn't help your father get to the scene, and probably made it worse for other responders.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigger Picture</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigger Picture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was an example.  One of fact, and not conjecture. An example in which I was personally involved.  But thanks for pointing out how people don&#039;t care about what Firefighters do every day.  Next time I&#039;ll make something up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was an example.  One of fact, and not conjecture. An example in which I was personally involved.  But thanks for pointing out how people don't care about what Firefighters do every day.  Next time I'll make something up.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, 9/11 justifies city government parking abuse -- six years later, no less! 9/11 justifies everything. Hallellujah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, 9/11 justifies city government parking abuse -- six years later, no less! 9/11 justifies everything. Hallellujah!</p>
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		<title>By: Bigger Picture</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigger Picture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typo correction: &quot;All privileges can be abused, not all cops are good cops, but less people abuse this than you might think.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo correction: "All privileges can be abused, not all cops are good cops, but less people abuse this than you might think."</p>
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		<title>By: Bigger Picture</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/28/parking-with-impunity-we-do-not-summons-our-own/comment-page-1/#comment-30327</link>
		<dc:creator>Bigger Picture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On 9/11/01 my father abandoned his car in gridlock so he could get to his firehouse in manhattan and help.  He ran until a police van gave him a ride the rest of the way. His placard prevented the car from being impounded by the time I retrieved it for him. (it was moved to the curb) There is a common courtesy given between civil servants like fire fighters and cops. It is a thankless job that is often jading.  All privileges can be abused, not all cops are good cops, but less people than you think abuse this you my think.  In the FDNY they have a word for people who abuse parking privileges, though it isn&#039;t fit for print. 

And in response to David (9:51pm): Cops and firefighters dress like cops and firefighters once they arrive at their house/precinct, and not at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 9/11/01 my father abandoned his car in gridlock so he could get to his firehouse in manhattan and help.  He ran until a police van gave him a ride the rest of the way. His placard prevented the car from being impounded by the time I retrieved it for him. (it was moved to the curb) There is a common courtesy given between civil servants like fire fighters and cops. It is a thankless job that is often jading.  All privileges can be abused, not all cops are good cops, but less people than you think abuse this you my think.  In the FDNY they have a word for people who abuse parking privileges, though it isn't fit for print. </p>
<p>And in response to David (9:51pm): Cops and firefighters dress like cops and firefighters once they arrive at their house/precinct, and not at home.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 02:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several years ago, I was physically assaulted on a bus.  If the police were not granted special parking privileges for their private vehicles, a police officer might have been on that bus.

Come to think of it, I ride the bus often, and I cannot ever recall seeing a police officer as a fellow passenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several years ago, I was physically assaulted on a bus.  If the police were not granted special parking privileges for their private vehicles, a police officer might have been on that bus.</p>
<p>Come to think of it, I ride the bus often, and I cannot ever recall seeing a police officer as a fellow passenger.</p>
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		<title>By: JF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ungrateful?  Damn straight I&#039;m ungrateful of any public employee who &lt;b&gt;chooses&lt;/b&gt; to work for the city and then calls names and threatens anyone who questions their &quot;perks.&quot;  If you&#039;re too good to ride the subway like the rest of us then I don&#039;t trust you to protect me.  Go build houses in Massapequa, and we&#039;ll hire our own liberal scum as cops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ungrateful?  Damn straight I'm ungrateful of any public employee who <b>chooses</b> to work for the city and then calls names and threatens anyone who questions their "perks."  If you're too good to ride the subway like the rest of us then I don't trust you to protect me.  Go build houses in Massapequa, and we'll hire our own liberal scum as cops.</p>
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		<title>By: tps12</title>
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		<dc:creator>tps12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Efficiency Nut, I&#039;m glad to hear about the cooperation with unions. I was not aware or had forgotten that Uncivil Servants was a T.A. project, but that makes sense, as I have always thought T.A. was good with this kind of diplomacy.

Contractual or not, the parking perk is established in the minds of those who enjoy it. As JK describes, it&#039;s not going to just get taken away without pissing a lot of people off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Efficiency Nut, I'm glad to hear about the cooperation with unions. I was not aware or had forgotten that Uncivil Servants was a T.A. project, but that makes sense, as I have always thought T.A. was good with this kind of diplomacy.</p>
<p>Contractual or not, the parking perk is established in the minds of those who enjoy it. As JK describes, it's not going to just get taken away without pissing a lot of people off.</p>
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		<title>By: donr</title>
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		<dc:creator>donr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this gentleman seems to forget, as do all cops that we pay their salaries and retirements and therefore, we expect them to do their jobs correctly and follow procedure. if i don&#039;t do my job, i get fired. period. end of story. and i don&#039;t whine about it.

as nina asked, who asked this person to be a cop anyway? folks become cops generally cuz daddy was one, not becaue they actually believe in helping people or something so &quot;liberal.&quot;

to be honest, i would rather not give knuckleheads like this a gun and a badge. gun + badge + hatred of your constituents = sean bell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this gentleman seems to forget, as do all cops that we pay their salaries and retirements and therefore, we expect them to do their jobs correctly and follow procedure. if i don't do my job, i get fired. period. end of story. and i don't whine about it.</p>
<p>as nina asked, who asked this person to be a cop anyway? folks become cops generally cuz daddy was one, not becaue they actually believe in helping people or something so "liberal."</p>
<p>to be honest, i would rather not give knuckleheads like this a gun and a badge. gun + badge + hatred of your constituents = sean bell</p>
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		<title>By: MARK</title>
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		<dc:creator>MARK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like he&#039;s the one doing the whinning!</description>
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		<title>By: Efficiency Nut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Efficiency Nut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ddartley,
not to pick nits, but the site has already blurred out license plates for law enforcement officers, given the constantly stated concern that this is personal information that would endanger their families.  Despite the flawed logic behind that (a perp trying to find the license plate of the cop they hate would statistically do a helluva lot better going to the precinct where the cop worked than scanning the 15 or so license plates that were showing on the site), there was no reason to make a fight out of the perceived danger.

tps12,
The contract doesn&#039;t guarantee parking--a long tradition of allowing that perk has created inertia that feels like contractual obligation.  Looking at the contract, the city is only supposed to supply reasonable parking as is possible, not guarantee a space for everyone that wants to drive to work (and many LE don&#039;t drive to work). 

Finally, T.A. is reaching out to every union whose members routinely use union-issued plaques to park illegally.  There is real interest in pursuing the positive solutions to the issue directly with the unions.  Similar outreach to every Commanding Officer at every precinct.  Already have some very positive examples of C.O.&#039;s cracking down--but more to come on that in a few weeks at www.uncivilservants.org

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ddartley,<br />
not to pick nits, but the site has already blurred out license plates for law enforcement officers, given the constantly stated concern that this is personal information that would endanger their families.  Despite the flawed logic behind that (a perp trying to find the license plate of the cop they hate would statistically do a helluva lot better going to the precinct where the cop worked than scanning the 15 or so license plates that were showing on the site), there was no reason to make a fight out of the perceived danger.</p>
<p>tps12,<br />
The contract doesn't guarantee parking--a long tradition of allowing that perk has created inertia that feels like contractual obligation.  Looking at the contract, the city is only supposed to supply reasonable parking as is possible, not guarantee a space for everyone that wants to drive to work (and many LE don't drive to work). </p>
<p>Finally, T.A. is reaching out to every union whose members routinely use union-issued plaques to park illegally.  There is real interest in pursuing the positive solutions to the issue directly with the unions.  Similar outreach to every Commanding Officer at every precinct.  Already have some very positive examples of C.O.'s cracking down--but more to come on that in a few weeks at <a href="http://www.uncivilservants.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.uncivilservants.org</a></p>
<p> <img src='http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jk</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/28/parking-with-impunity-we-do-not-summons-our-own/comment-page-1/#comment-30301</link>
		<dc:creator>jk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn

It&#039;s hard to see any placard system that would work --- which the later part of your comments suggest. The placard concept is fundamentally flawed. The issue is not fraud, but a sense of entitlement and privilege that is at the core of police and municipal worker car culture. The cops know that restricted, &quot;self-enforcement&quot; zone permits aren&#039;t valid for parking anywhere, but they use them that way. 

The two fundamental political problems with reforming placards are: one the cost of the placards is not monetized or internalized within the city budget. So, it&#039;s an easy subsidy from a budget perspective to provide.

Two, from the mayor&#039;s perspective, it&#039;s not worth the political cost to crack down on them and antagonize rank and file cops. There is simply no way within the NYC political system that placards will be ever be enforced. Who would do it? So, scrap them completely and jettison the idea of a placard class and everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn</p>
<p>It's hard to see any placard system that would work --- which the later part of your comments suggest. The placard concept is fundamentally flawed. The issue is not fraud, but a sense of entitlement and privilege that is at the core of police and municipal worker car culture. The cops know that restricted, "self-enforcement" zone permits aren't valid for parking anywhere, but they use them that way. </p>
<p>The two fundamental political problems with reforming placards are: one the cost of the placards is not monetized or internalized within the city budget. So, it's an easy subsidy from a budget perspective to provide.</p>
<p>Two, from the mayor's perspective, it's not worth the political cost to crack down on them and antagonize rank and file cops. There is simply no way within the NYC political system that placards will be ever be enforced. Who would do it? So, scrap them completely and jettison the idea of a placard class and everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/28/parking-with-impunity-we-do-not-summons-our-own/comment-page-1/#comment-30297</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JK is right that right now, the current placard system needs to be scrapped. There needs to be a better element of verification that the placard is legal other than it &quot;looks right&quot;. Reimbursement of travel expenses up to a specified limit makes the most sense. With the city&#039;s massive volume, it could negotiate pretty good rates with the parking garages I would think (maybe 20% discount). Using the revenue from increased meter income ($43 million from the Schaller study) and increase meter rates (probably 200-300 million) would easily cover this. 

Plus it would give the city every financial incentive to reduce this cost in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JK is right that right now, the current placard system needs to be scrapped. There needs to be a better element of verification that the placard is legal other than it "looks right". Reimbursement of travel expenses up to a specified limit makes the most sense. With the city's massive volume, it could negotiate pretty good rates with the parking garages I would think (maybe 20% discount). Using the revenue from increased meter income ($43 million from the Schaller study) and increase meter rates (probably 200-300 million) would easily cover this. </p>
<p>Plus it would give the city every financial incentive to reduce this cost in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: ddartley</title>
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		<dc:creator>ddartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tps12, I have always had a feeling that the people and organizations behind Uncivil Servants (mostly T.A., I believe?) is kind of picking and escalating the slightly wrong fight (spending time and effort on something much harder to change than other things, and also, albeit fairly, really, really pissing people off whom it would be better to work with rather than against).  

There&#039;s already been pretty extensive discussion on all that here, and I have not followed it too closely, so I may be repeating others&#039; opinions, but I think they might do better to keep posting picutres, but blurr out all placard numbers and plates.  Like, maybe from now on, after already having made thier big splash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tps12, I have always had a feeling that the people and organizations behind Uncivil Servants (mostly T.A., I believe?) is kind of picking and escalating the slightly wrong fight (spending time and effort on something much harder to change than other things, and also, albeit fairly, really, really pissing people off whom it would be better to work with rather than against).  </p>
<p>There's already been pretty extensive discussion on all that here, and I have not followed it too closely, so I may be repeating others' opinions, but I think they might do better to keep posting picutres, but blurr out all placard numbers and plates.  Like, maybe from now on, after already having made thier big splash.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/28/parking-with-impunity-we-do-not-summons-our-own/comment-page-1/#comment-30294</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A better approach would be working with the PBA and other public worker groups to demand that the city provides their employees with commuting solutions that work for everyone involved.&quot;

A nice sentiment, what would this be? 

My two cents is that all placards for the private cars of civil servants should be abolished and replaced with some kind of parking cash-out: instead of a placard, workers get a travel allowance. This would be paid for by higher meter rates, which would also help achieve the goal of 15% curb vacancy. Admittedly, I haven&#039;t done the math, but suspect new meter money would cover it. 

No amount of shaming (which is good anyway because it calls attention to the problem) is going to stop the cops and other govt workers from abusing placards. The abuse it worth too much money and viewed by a very powerful PBA as a fundamental entitlement. Look at the massive pressure it took in Chinatown to remedy a few blocks affecting a few dozen permits. Multiply that by ten thousand.  

Scrap the placards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"A better approach would be working with the PBA and other public worker groups to demand that the city provides their employees with commuting solutions that work for everyone involved."</p>
<p>A nice sentiment, what would this be? </p>
<p>My two cents is that all placards for the private cars of civil servants should be abolished and replaced with some kind of parking cash-out: instead of a placard, workers get a travel allowance. This would be paid for by higher meter rates, which would also help achieve the goal of 15% curb vacancy. Admittedly, I haven't done the math, but suspect new meter money would cover it. </p>
<p>No amount of shaming (which is good anyway because it calls attention to the problem) is going to stop the cops and other govt workers from abusing placards. The abuse it worth too much money and viewed by a very powerful PBA as a fundamental entitlement. Look at the massive pressure it took in Chinatown to remedy a few blocks affecting a few dozen permits. Multiply that by ten thousand.  </p>
<p>Scrap the placards.</p>
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