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	<title>Comments on: Going Nowhere Fast</title>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30364</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ace, we welcome your invitation to constructive dialogue.</description>
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		<title>By: Ace</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30360</link>
		<dc:creator>Ace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pure idiocy of these posts is frightening.  Because someone drives in their hatchback over the Brooklyn Bridge several times at 7 am on a Saturday moring with their child, they are: (a) destroying the environment; (b) ruining their children; (c) endangering pedestrians; (d) supporting the Iraq war; (e) supporting the suburbanization of NY and (f) (gasp!) not performing a family ritual appropriate for a NY resident (whatever that means).  Clearly, most of you are allowing your anger to overwhelm any common sense that you may have once had.      

The point of the article is taking something most &quot;sentient&quot; Americans have experienced - (and which human being, by the way, is not sentient?)-- the thrill of driving the open road -- and applying it in a humorous way to our cramped existence in New York.  The parts about the officer pulling the driver over are obviously funny to anyone who has ever been pulled over by an officer -- although by the sound of things you lot don&#039;t get out much (probably as you&#039;re too busy figuring out who else to hate).  In sum, I would encourage the posters who are genuinely in favor of progressive change to focus their ire on more pressing targets than a mom who drives her child over the brooklyn bridge at 7 am on a Saturday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pure idiocy of these posts is frightening.  Because someone drives in their hatchback over the Brooklyn Bridge several times at 7 am on a Saturday moring with their child, they are: (a) destroying the environment; (b) ruining their children; (c) endangering pedestrians; (d) supporting the Iraq war; (e) supporting the suburbanization of NY and (f) (gasp!) not performing a family ritual appropriate for a NY resident (whatever that means).  Clearly, most of you are allowing your anger to overwhelm any common sense that you may have once had.      </p>
<p>The point of the article is taking something most "sentient" Americans have experienced - (and which human being, by the way, is not sentient?)-- the thrill of driving the open road -- and applying it in a humorous way to our cramped existence in New York.  The parts about the officer pulling the driver over are obviously funny to anyone who has ever been pulled over by an officer -- although by the sound of things you lot don't get out much (probably as you're too busy figuring out who else to hate).  In sum, I would encourage the posters who are genuinely in favor of progressive change to focus their ire on more pressing targets than a mom who drives her child over the brooklyn bridge at 7 am on a Saturday.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30310</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This woman writes children&#039;s books? I pity her kid. She was probably smoking and talking on a cell phone while driving on this careless trip to nowhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This woman writes children's books? I pity her kid. She was probably smoking and talking on a cell phone while driving on this careless trip to nowhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Naparstek</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30267</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Naparstek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And on behalf of Aaron Donovan, Brad Aaron and myself, I just want to note that there are way too many Aaron&#039;s on this site now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And on behalf of Aaron Donovan, Brad Aaron and myself, I just want to note that there are way too many Aaron's on this site now.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30264</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron,

From my perspective (and I suspect others&#039; here as well), the thing that is truly offensive here is not the idea of consuming energy for entertainment; we all do that in some way and to some extent. Rather, the issue is the sense of entitlement that the author takes to her disregard for the safety of her urban companions, her son, and herself. Also, that the author uses this disregard as a way of escaping from the issues in her life represents to many the dominance of the private car not just as a mode of transportation but as a mode of existance -- which ideal is certainly a damaging thing in the aggregate.

Although you are correct that the oil consumed in this joyride is of little consequence, the sentiment expressed in the article is representative of much that is of great consequence.

Cheers,

--Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron,</p>
<p>From my perspective (and I suspect others' here as well), the thing that is truly offensive here is not the idea of consuming energy for entertainment; we all do that in some way and to some extent. Rather, the issue is the sense of entitlement that the author takes to her disregard for the safety of her urban companions, her son, and herself. Also, that the author uses this disregard as a way of escaping from the issues in her life represents to many the dominance of the private car not just as a mode of transportation but as a mode of existance -- which ideal is certainly a damaging thing in the aggregate.</p>
<p>Although you are correct that the oil consumed in this joyride is of little consequence, the sentiment expressed in the article is representative of much that is of great consequence.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>--Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Mike S</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30263</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, 
IMHO, entertaining yourself with gasoline is like throwing food off a building for fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron,<br />
IMHO, entertaining yourself with gasoline is like throwing food off a building for fun.</p>
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		<title>By: philipp</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30262</link>
		<dc:creator>philipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 05:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wonder if she would feel any differently if her son were sent to iraq?  at first, she probably would not, but once he was brutally killed or maimed, maybe she would.

perhaps charlie rangel&#039;s draft plan should be aimed at families like shey&#039;s.  i&#039;ll bet many &#039;murricans&#039; opinions would change....fast though not as fast as we&#039;d like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder if she would feel any differently if her son were sent to iraq?  at first, she probably would not, but once he was brutally killed or maimed, maybe she would.</p>
<p>perhaps charlie rangel's draft plan should be aimed at families like shey's.  i'll bet many 'murricans' opinions would change....fast though not as fast as we'd like.</p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30261</link>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you people serious? somebody driving across the brooklyn bridge &quot;10-12&quot; times is not worthy of ANY criticism and is not environmentally reckless.  it&#039;s only about 1.4 miles from city hall to tillary st. so once a week in this little hatchback which probably gets at least 20mpg she&#039;s entertaining herself with less than a gallon of gas. i&#039;m not saying she shouldn&#039;t follow traffic laws but driving less than 20 miles for the fun of it is ok by me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you people serious? somebody driving across the brooklyn bridge "10-12" times is not worthy of ANY criticism and is not environmentally reckless.  it's only about 1.4 miles from city hall to tillary st. so once a week in this little hatchback which probably gets at least 20mpg she's entertaining herself with less than a gallon of gas. i'm not saying she shouldn't follow traffic laws but driving less than 20 miles for the fun of it is ok by me.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30239</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the most telling phrases is her statement that, &quot;...for the first time in a week I felt in control.&quot;

Now we see what it&#039;s all about.  Not to play amateur psychologist, but she obviously has issues that extend beyond an affection for her car.  

What a sad sight: a woman roaring back and forth over the Brooklyn Bridge with her toddler son by her side, gripping the wheel tight and recklessly accellerating while screaming to no one in particular, &quot;I&#039;m in control!  I&#039;m in control!&quot;

I can&#039;t believe the Times actually paid this woman to generate this hollow content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the most telling phrases is her statement that, "...for the first time in a week I felt in control."</p>
<p>Now we see what it's all about.  Not to play amateur psychologist, but she obviously has issues that extend beyond an affection for her car.  </p>
<p>What a sad sight: a woman roaring back and forth over the Brooklyn Bridge with her toddler son by her side, gripping the wheel tight and recklessly accellerating while screaming to no one in particular, "I'm in control!  I'm in control!"</p>
<p>I can't believe the Times actually paid this woman to generate this hollow content.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Naparstek</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30238</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Naparstek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laurence, 

Bicycling?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurence, </p>
<p>Bicycling?</p>
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		<title>By: Laurence Aurbach</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30235</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurence Aurbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to figure out a different way for car addicts to get their speed &amp; power fixes. I dunno -- free tickets to a roller coaster? Video game therapy? Hang gliding excursions? Somehow people managed to satisfy their need for speed and power before the automobile was invented; this isn&#039;t an impossible assignment, it just requires some creativity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to figure out a different way for car addicts to get their speed &amp; power fixes. I dunno -- free tickets to a roller coaster? Video game therapy? Hang gliding excursions? Somehow people managed to satisfy their need for speed and power before the automobile was invented; this isn't an impossible assignment, it just requires some creativity.</p>
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		<title>By: Boon Doggle</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30231</link>
		<dc:creator>Boon Doggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne - well put.  I sure hope you (and/or the other folks with cogent comments here) wrote a letter to the NY Times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne - well put.  I sure hope you (and/or the other folks with cogent comments here) wrote a letter to the NY Times.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30224</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>many of us have fond childhood memories of family car trips, but those experiences should be seen for what they are: relics of a former time and place. even non-urban areas are dealing with the effects of strip-malls, sprawling developments, and traffic-clogged highways. the private automobile + open road = freedom equation doesn&#039;t really work anymore, and it is obviously a particularly foolish thing to try to replicate in the city.

today&#039;s children need a 21st century paradigm. and the writer needs to have her license taken before she hurts someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>many of us have fond childhood memories of family car trips, but those experiences should be seen for what they are: relics of a former time and place. even non-urban areas are dealing with the effects of strip-malls, sprawling developments, and traffic-clogged highways. the private automobile + open road = freedom equation doesn't really work anymore, and it is obviously a particularly foolish thing to try to replicate in the city.</p>
<p>today's children need a 21st century paradigm. and the writer needs to have her license taken before she hurts someone.</p>
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		<title>By: BusGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30222</link>
		<dc:creator>BusGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, wasting the gas, proclaiming car culture... but what about all the illegal traffic maneuvers with a kid in the car???  Moves even she herself calls risky.  We may not always agree with the standards by which our roadways are built, but they are often designed with safety in mind.  There are reasons we don&#039;t run red lights, cross multiple lanes of traffic and make illegal u-turns ignoring all signs.  How can this woman risk her child in this way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, wasting the gas, proclaiming car culture... but what about all the illegal traffic maneuvers with a kid in the car???  Moves even she herself calls risky.  We may not always agree with the standards by which our roadways are built, but they are often designed with safety in mind.  There are reasons we don't run red lights, cross multiple lanes of traffic and make illegal u-turns ignoring all signs.  How can this woman risk her child in this way?</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30220</link>
		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No wonder no one takes bikers seriously, you don&#039;t even want people driving in the city at the absolute lowest traffic times. 

Shey clearly falls into Einstein&#039;s definition of insane, but to disregard a joyriding in its entirety is extreme.  In my 9 years of driving, I&#039;ve had exactly 3 NYC joyrides: off peak and beautiful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder no one takes bikers seriously, you don't even want people driving in the city at the absolute lowest traffic times. </p>
<p>Shey clearly falls into Einstein's definition of insane, but to disregard a joyriding in its entirety is extreme.  In my 9 years of driving, I've had exactly 3 NYC joyrides: off peak and beautiful.</p>
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		<title>By: brent</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30216</link>
		<dc:creator>brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, this article was selected because the NYT editors found it relevant and it represents a real viewpoint. I think the good of the article comes from how much it reveals about the suburban values that are eroding our urban way of life. The Times get enormous revenue from automobile advertisements and therefore the implications of this article make perfect sense; this person came from a non-urban place to NYC not to embrace a new urban lifestyle, but rather to impose her anti-urban ways on us. This fluff piece might as well have been written by the Toyota marketing department- â€œThe way to achieve freedom in NYC is to buy a Toyota so you can drive back and forth across the BK Bridge!â€ One can expect this mindset in the Corn Belt where it is an offense to challenge the idea that cars are synonymous with freedom, but it is really frightening when NYers, even ones who were born here, accept this silliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this article was selected because the NYT editors found it relevant and it represents a real viewpoint. I think the good of the article comes from how much it reveals about the suburban values that are eroding our urban way of life. The Times get enormous revenue from automobile advertisements and therefore the implications of this article make perfect sense; this person came from a non-urban place to NYC not to embrace a new urban lifestyle, but rather to impose her anti-urban ways on us. This fluff piece might as well have been written by the Toyota marketing department- â€œThe way to achieve freedom in NYC is to buy a Toyota so you can drive back and forth across the BK Bridge!â€ One can expect this mindset in the Corn Belt where it is an offense to challenge the idea that cars are synonymous with freedom, but it is really frightening when NYers, even ones who were born here, accept this silliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an Iowan living in Brooklyn, as a biker, and as a conscientious, sentient human being who is aware of my surroundings, I am deeply offended by this anecdote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Iowan living in Brooklyn, as a biker, and as a conscientious, sentient human being who is aware of my surroundings, I am deeply offended by this anecdote.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt H</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30210</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oddly enough, I can relate just the tiniest bit. Getting on my bike and riding a loop somewhere within the city limits -- to Central Park, some place I haven&#039;t been, whatever, just to explore, look at the changing streetscape, etc., etc., is profoundly rewarding to me. Even if it&#039;s not really utility cycling, and I don&#039;t have much destination in mind.

The fact that I&#039;m not engaging in such an activity in a 2-ton CO2-spewing vehicle with a significant appetite for fuel and scarce urban space makes, well, a mite of a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly enough, I can relate just the tiniest bit. Getting on my bike and riding a loop somewhere within the city limits -- to Central Park, some place I haven't been, whatever, just to explore, look at the changing streetscape, etc., etc., is profoundly rewarding to me. Even if it's not really utility cycling, and I don't have much destination in mind.</p>
<p>The fact that I'm not engaging in such an activity in a 2-ton CO2-spewing vehicle with a significant appetite for fuel and scarce urban space makes, well, a mite of a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Gizler</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30209</link>
		<dc:creator>Gizler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, this one floored me too. My favorite passage was &quot;I saw that I was trying to do for my son what my parents had done for me, removing us from the address particular to our family to take part in something that existed beyond us.&quot;

What?!? Right - the only way to do that in NYC is to drive around aimlessly in a car. Lady, do us all a favor and get back to Iowa where you belong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, this one floored me too. My favorite passage was "I saw that I was trying to do for my son what my parents had done for me, removing us from the address particular to our family to take part in something that existed beyond us."</p>
<p>What?!? Right - the only way to do that in NYC is to drive around aimlessly in a car. Lady, do us all a favor and get back to Iowa where you belong.</p>
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		<title>By: ianqui</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/26/going-nowhere-fast/comment-page-1/#comment-30208</link>
		<dc:creator>ianqui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad you wrote about this, because I almost spit out my cereal this morning as I was reading this article. 

First of all, I can&#039;t think of anything more miserable than driving back and forth in my car for hours on end in New York City. 

Second of all, I wanted to cry at the thought of all of that needlessly wasted gasoline. I know not everyone is as peak oil frenzied as I am, but seriously. She really thought this was a perfectly fine activity to partake in? Or at least tell me she must have been aware of global warming--but she still thought it was OK to spew all that CO2 for no reason?

Not even carbon credits would absolve her of this (or her compatriots in Iowa who are probably doing the same thing).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm so glad you wrote about this, because I almost spit out my cereal this morning as I was reading this article. </p>
<p>First of all, I can't think of anything more miserable than driving back and forth in my car for hours on end in New York City. </p>
<p>Second of all, I wanted to cry at the thought of all of that needlessly wasted gasoline. I know not everyone is as peak oil frenzied as I am, but seriously. She really thought this was a perfectly fine activity to partake in? Or at least tell me she must have been aware of global warming--but she still thought it was OK to spew all that CO2 for no reason?</p>
<p>Not even carbon credits would absolve her of this (or her compatriots in Iowa who are probably doing the same thing).</p>
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