Comments on: StreetFilms: One Way is the Wrong Way http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:02:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: ABG http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-30072 ABG Tue, 20 Mar 2007 03:47:30 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-30072 Can they write speeding tickets in the <a href="http://www.curbed.com/archives/2007/03/19/tower_of_fun_goes_upscale_now_on_prospect_park_west.php" rel="nofollow">Tower of Fun</a>? Can they write speeding tickets in the Tower of Fun?

]]> By: Dan http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29953 Dan Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:58:36 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29953 One word: thisisfreakingreat! One word: thisisfreakingreat!

]]> By: Kay http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29936 Kay Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:18:33 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29936 Beautiful, thank you! I came here from the link from Gothamist. Beautiful, thank you! I came here from the link from Gothamist.

]]> By: lee http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29903 lee Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:51:21 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29903 as far as the timing goes i tested it tonight on ppw and if accellerate to 30 between lights i have to stop short for just a moment before the next light turns green. during off peak hours these should be an alternate pattern rather than a progression anyway. as far as the timing goes i tested it tonight on ppw and if accellerate to 30 between lights i have to stop short for just a moment before the next light turns green.

during off peak hours these should be an alternate pattern rather than a progression anyway.

]]> By: Angus Grieve-Smith http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29901 Angus Grieve-Smith Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:14:59 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29901 This is great. It'd be nice to see one-way streets changed back to two-way all over the city. I spent some time once looking in the New York Times archives at articles about the conversions from two-way to one-way back in the 50s (IIRC). It was pretty hotly debated back then too. Too bad the two-way defenders lost. This is great. It'd be nice to see one-way streets changed back to two-way all over the city.

I spent some time once looking in the New York Times archives at articles about the conversions from two-way to one-way back in the 50s (IIRC). It was pretty hotly debated back then too. Too bad the two-way defenders lost.

]]> By: P http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29898 P Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:12:01 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29898 I've heard that in some places the lights are timed for 35 mph. Don't ask me why. I've heard that in some places the lights are timed for 35 mph. Don't ask me why.

]]> By: Daniel Millstone http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29891 Daniel Millstone Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:33:43 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29891 It seems to me that there is only one word for this (otherwise idiotic) proposal: Ratnerville. If we're not careful, 6th, 7th & 8th Aves will into speedways for the excess traffic induced by the unplanned Atlantic Yards. It seems to me that there is only one word for this (otherwise idiotic) proposal: Ratnerville. If we're not careful, 6th, 7th & 8th Aves will into speedways for the excess traffic induced by the unplanned Atlantic Yards.

]]> By: Anon http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29886 Anon Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:23:19 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29886 The best comparison would be between 8th Ave and 6th Ave. Both are purely residential, and one is oneway and the other is two-way. One thing to keep in mind is that 8th does have some higher densities on and near it, which could lead to higher pedestrian traffic and therefore more pedestrian accidents. The best comparison would be between 8th Ave and 6th Ave. Both are purely residential, and one is oneway and the other is two-way. One thing to keep in mind is that 8th does have some higher densities on and near it, which could lead to higher pedestrian traffic and therefore more pedestrian accidents.

]]> By: Glenn http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29885 Glenn Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:18:30 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29885 Great job. The speeds on those one ways is really scary. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but the difference in pedestrian mortality from crashes with automobiles is significantly greater as you go from 15-20mph to over 30mph. Instinctively, I think many pedestrians know this and steer clear of these streets. What speed does the DOT sequence lights for? the full 30 mph or something in the 20s? Great job. The speeds on those one ways is really scary. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but the difference in pedestrian mortality from crashes with automobiles is significantly greater as you go from 15-20mph to over 30mph. Instinctively, I think many pedestrians know this and steer clear of these streets.

What speed does the DOT sequence lights for? the full 30 mph or something in the 20s?

]]> By: d http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29883 d Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:57:27 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/14/streetfilms-one-way-is-the-wrong-way/#comment-29883 Thank you for this. Well done. Regarding the statistics that the DOT is likely to roll out to make its case for the change, could it be that there are more accidents on 7th Avenue than on 8th because of all the businesses located there? Few people who live between 4th and 7th Avenues would have any reason to walk up to 8th Avenue just for a stroll, but since most of the grocery stores, drug stores, pizza places, coffee shops, and other businesses in the Slope are on 7th, it stands to reason that there would be more people on 7th, which would influence the statistics. The whole argument is a red herring. More people are involved in traffic accidents on 7th Avenue than on the sheep meadow in Central Park, but that doesn't then mean that we should pave over the grass. Thank you for this. Well done.

Regarding the statistics that the DOT is likely to roll out to make its case for the change, could it be that there are more accidents on 7th Avenue than on 8th because of all the businesses located there? Few people who live between 4th and 7th Avenues would have any reason to walk up to 8th Avenue just for a stroll, but since most of the grocery stores, drug stores, pizza places, coffee shops, and other businesses in the Slope are on 7th, it stands to reason that there would be more people on 7th, which would influence the statistics.

The whole argument is a red herring. More people are involved in traffic accidents on 7th Avenue than on the sheep meadow in Central Park, but that doesn't then mean that we should pave over the grass.

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