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	<title>Comments on: Report from Atlanta: Don&#8217;t Walk This Way</title>
	<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/</link>
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		<title>By: Emilie</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-30343</link>
		<author>Emilie</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-30343</guid>
		<description>I've lived in Atlanta all my life and love it. Yes our roads suck, but no one really lived down here until the 1970's. So really we are kindof "young". If you only knew it like I did then you would grow to love it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've lived in Atlanta all my life and love it. Yes our roads suck, but no one really lived down here until the 1970's. So really we are kindof "young". If you only knew it like I did then you would grow to love it too.</p>
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		<title>By: d</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29818</link>
		<author>d</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29818</guid>
		<description>It's a chicken and egg sort of thing, although most people here probably think they know which came first.  There are no walkable spaces in a downtown area, so people desert the downtown, leading to more infrastructure for cars, leading to less walkable spaces, leading to more people deserting the downtown...it goes on forever.

But it's not just Atlanta's downtown that's like this.  Look at the Perimeter Center, Lenox/Phipps (two major shopping malls almost across from each other with virtually no way for a pedestrian to access one from the other), or even most of Buckhead, one of the more established areas of Atlanta.  Even most of the subdivisions and housing complexes are built without sidewalks.  Go to Alpharetta and you see nothing but strip malls.  Crossing the street involves getting in your car and negotiating a series of traffic lights, turning lanes, or jug handles.

Atlanta proper is actually very small and the area around it is made up of a series of independent counties.  I remember in the 1990s that some of the counties absolutely did not want to work with the city to extend MARTA because it might bring certain "undesirables" from the city to the 'burbs.  Now those decisions are coming back to haunt these counties as their residents choke on traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's a chicken and egg sort of thing, although most people here probably think they know which came first.  There are no walkable spaces in a downtown area, so people desert the downtown, leading to more infrastructure for cars, leading to less walkable spaces, leading to more people deserting the downtown...it goes on forever.</p>
<p>But it's not just Atlanta's downtown that's like this.  Look at the Perimeter Center, Lenox/Phipps (two major shopping malls almost across from each other with virtually no way for a pedestrian to access one from the other), or even most of Buckhead, one of the more established areas of Atlanta.  Even most of the subdivisions and housing complexes are built without sidewalks.  Go to Alpharetta and you see nothing but strip malls.  Crossing the street involves getting in your car and negotiating a series of traffic lights, turning lanes, or jug handles.</p>
<p>Atlanta proper is actually very small and the area around it is made up of a series of independent counties.  I remember in the 1990s that some of the counties absolutely did not want to work with the city to extend MARTA because it might bring certain "undesirables" from the city to the 'burbs.  Now those decisions are coming back to haunt these counties as their residents choke on traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: atl resident</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29817</link>
		<author>atl resident</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29817</guid>
		<description>By the way angus I was just pointing out a fact that Atlanta is different and that we must be fair.  Its nothing wrong with pointing out that Atlanta is not a pedestrian friendly city.  All I am saying is that since Atlanta has basically designed to move people to and from the suburbs to work.  Most people only go into Atlanta to work so why build elaborate walkways when no one uses them?  Isnâ€™t that a huge waste in time and money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way angus I was just pointing out a fact that Atlanta is different and that we must be fair.  Its nothing wrong with pointing out that Atlanta is not a pedestrian friendly city.  All I am saying is that since Atlanta has basically designed to move people to and from the suburbs to work.  Most people only go into Atlanta to work so why build elaborate walkways when no one uses them?  Isnâ€™t that a huge waste in time and money?</p>
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		<title>By: atl resident</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29816</link>
		<author>atl resident</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29816</guid>
		<description>angus- "Again, I don't have any experience with Atlanta,"  Thatâ€™s absolutely ridiculous.  Yes Atlanta was burned in the 1860s but if you do your history or if you were born and raised in Atlanta as I was you would know that there was no economic expansion of Atlanta until around the 1940s-1950s.  Donâ€™t just say stuff if you have no idea what you are talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>angus- "Again, I don't have any experience with Atlanta,"  Thatâ€™s absolutely ridiculous.  Yes Atlanta was burned in the 1860s but if you do your history or if you were born and raised in Atlanta as I was you would know that there was no economic expansion of Atlanta until around the 1940s-1950s.  Donâ€™t just say stuff if you have no idea what you are talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Mordecai</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29800</link>
		<author>Mordecai</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29800</guid>
		<description>@14: How much of the "anti-pedestrian" design you mention was produced by very deliberate attempts to exclude or isolate people too poor to own cars?  I think this probably plays a larger or smaller role in setting many of the priorities being discussed here.  (Of course, it's usually discussed in terms of "crime prevention" or "quality of life").

If this isn't addressed explicitly, then I suspect there will be an added element of mystification present in the discussion, and in planning decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@14: How much of the "anti-pedestrian" design you mention was produced by very deliberate attempts to exclude or isolate people too poor to own cars?  I think this probably plays a larger or smaller role in setting many of the priorities being discussed here.  (Of course, it's usually discussed in terms of "crime prevention" or "quality of life").</p>
<p>If this isn't addressed explicitly, then I suspect there will be an added element of mystification present in the discussion, and in planning decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29796</link>
		<author>Angus Grieve-Smith</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29796</guid>
		<description>I just took another look at the rankings, and right after NYC is Scottsdale, Arizona, at #40.  &lt;i&gt;Scottsdale&lt;/i&gt;?  You know they didn't try to walk anywhere in Scottsdale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just took another look at the rankings, and right after NYC is Scottsdale, Arizona, at #40.  <i>Scottsdale</i>?  You know they didn't try to walk anywhere in Scottsdale.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29795</link>
		<author>Angus Grieve-Smith</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29795</guid>
		<description>P, I think in your argument there's a false dichotomy between infilling downtown Atlanta and the sprawl that was actually built.  There are other options, including constructing a number of high-density cities on the farmland that used to surround Atlanta, like the "Villes nouvelles" in the Paris suburbs.

I recognize that the political climate in the postwar USA is different from the climate when most of New York was laid out, and as I understand, a lot of Long Island is just as sprawly as metro Atlanta.  But it sounds like it still deserves to be the 86th most pedestrian-friendly city in the country.

In any case, Albuquerque in no way deserves to be #17.  &lt;i&gt;Prevention&lt;/i&gt;'s methods are deeply flawed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P, I think in your argument there's a false dichotomy between infilling downtown Atlanta and the sprawl that was actually built.  There are other options, including constructing a number of high-density cities on the farmland that used to surround Atlanta, like the "Villes nouvelles" in the Paris suburbs.</p>
<p>I recognize that the political climate in the postwar USA is different from the climate when most of New York was laid out, and as I understand, a lot of Long Island is just as sprawly as metro Atlanta.  But it sounds like it still deserves to be the 86th most pedestrian-friendly city in the country.</p>
<p>In any case, Albuquerque in no way deserves to be #17.  <i>Prevention</i>'s methods are deeply flawed.</p>
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		<title>By: P</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29792</link>
		<author>P</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29792</guid>
		<description>Angus- it's fair to say that Atlanta has cannibalized much of it's downtown but the downtown it had in 1940 supported a metropolitan area of 400,000 not the 3 or 4 million that live in the area today.  If Downtown Atlanta kept up with the population growth of the area it would have destroyed much more of the existing city.

New York hasn't had to accommodate that kind of growth so recently and had the 'advantage' of doing so at a time before zoning and when resident opposition to, say, having a 50 story building built next door was much weaker.  (Atlantic Yards logrolling notwithstanding)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angus- it's fair to say that Atlanta has cannibalized much of it's downtown but the downtown it had in 1940 supported a metropolitan area of 400,000 not the 3 or 4 million that live in the area today.  If Downtown Atlanta kept up with the population growth of the area it would have destroyed much more of the existing city.</p>
<p>New York hasn't had to accommodate that kind of growth so recently and had the 'advantage' of doing so at a time before zoning and when resident opposition to, say, having a 50 story building built next door was much weaker.  (Atlantic Yards logrolling notwithstanding)</p>
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		<title>By: atl resident</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29791</link>
		<author>atl resident</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29791</guid>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29790</link>
		<author>Angus Grieve-Smith</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29790</guid>
		<description>Atlanta was rebuilt in the 1860s, right?  It's not much "younger" than New York.  They may have had a boom in the past twenty or thirty years, but downtown is almost 150 years old.

What's that you say?  Most of downtown is newer than that?  Why would that be?  Because they tore down all the old pedestrian-friendly infrastructure?  I see.

Again, I don't have any experience with Atlanta, but every city I visited in North Carolina had tons of streets without sidewalks, or with sidewalks only on one side (the side would sometimes change mid-block).  Many of these streets were built recently, but I was disturbed to discover that others had vestiges of the old sidewalks that had been either torn up or left to be overgrown by grass.

Atlanta, Raleigh and most other Southern cities  have built hundreds of miles of streets in the past twenty years.  They had every opportunity to create a relatively pedestrian-friendly environment like New York, Bronxville or Paris.  They could at least have paved sidewalks as in some of the less pedestrian-friendly Western cities like Denver and Albuquerque, but the didn't do that.

The people who built contemporary Atlanta, Houston, Oklahoma City and similar cities could have chosen a pedestrian-friendly design, but their priorities were elsewhere.  Why is it unfair to point that out?

Honestly, I don't think that any city that allows right turn on red can count as one of the "best walking cities."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atlanta was rebuilt in the 1860s, right?  It's not much "younger" than New York.  They may have had a boom in the past twenty or thirty years, but downtown is almost 150 years old.</p>
<p>What's that you say?  Most of downtown is newer than that?  Why would that be?  Because they tore down all the old pedestrian-friendly infrastructure?  I see.</p>
<p>Again, I don't have any experience with Atlanta, but every city I visited in North Carolina had tons of streets without sidewalks, or with sidewalks only on one side (the side would sometimes change mid-block).  Many of these streets were built recently, but I was disturbed to discover that others had vestiges of the old sidewalks that had been either torn up or left to be overgrown by grass.</p>
<p>Atlanta, Raleigh and most other Southern cities  have built hundreds of miles of streets in the past twenty years.  They had every opportunity to create a relatively pedestrian-friendly environment like New York, Bronxville or Paris.  They could at least have paved sidewalks as in some of the less pedestrian-friendly Western cities like Denver and Albuquerque, but the didn't do that.</p>
<p>The people who built contemporary Atlanta, Houston, Oklahoma City and similar cities could have chosen a pedestrian-friendly design, but their priorities were elsewhere.  Why is it unfair to point that out?</p>
<p>Honestly, I don't think that any city that allows right turn on red can count as one of the "best walking cities."</p>
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		<title>By: P</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29789</link>
		<author>P</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29789</guid>
		<description>Fair enough- there is no question that the older parts of New York City are far more pedestrian friendly than the newer areas.  But by the 70's and 80's other young cities like Portland were turning away from the highway and suburb model- it is only since the Olympics that Atlanta has any movement toward livable streets and only in the last 5 years that those improvements have started to pay off.

Sadly, the 70,000 people who move to the Atlanta region each year are moving exactly for cheap large houses.  It's not until they get there that they see that they're spending hours behind the wheel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough- there is no question that the older parts of New York City are far more pedestrian friendly than the newer areas.  But by the 70's and 80's other young cities like Portland were turning away from the highway and suburb model- it is only since the Olympics that Atlanta has any movement toward livable streets and only in the last 5 years that those improvements have started to pay off.</p>
<p>Sadly, the 70,000 people who move to the Atlanta region each year are moving exactly for cheap large houses.  It's not until they get there that they see that they're spending hours behind the wheel.</p>
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		<title>By: atl resident</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29788</link>
		<author>atl resident</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29788</guid>
		<description>I think you have to be fair.  Atlanta is a young city.  Northern cities were basically built before cars. The vast majority of Atlanta was built after the introduction of the car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you have to be fair.  Atlanta is a young city.  Northern cities were basically built before cars. The vast majority of Atlanta was built after the introduction of the car.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29782</link>
		<author>john</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29782</guid>
		<description>Downtown Atlanta sounds alot like downtown Tampa.  Tampa's downtown is a lifeless, empty wasteland.  Even during rush hour, there are practically no pedestrians on the sidewalks.  There is no mass transit, so everyone must drive into the city.  Massive, hulking parking garages dominate block after block.  There is not a single fine dining restaurant in the downtown.  The streets are very wide and mostly one way.  Crossing them on foot is not advisable.  

Compare this to a very walkable downtown like Philadelphia.  There, the streets are very narrow which makes crossing extremely easy.  The sidewalks are full of people, so you don't feel alone or isolated.  There's many outdoor cafes that adds to the number of people around. In nicer weather, bars and restaurants will remove the front windows so that as you walk by you can really see in, hear the music, smell the food, see and hear people.  I thought that downdown was extremely people-friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Downtown Atlanta sounds alot like downtown Tampa.  Tampa's downtown is a lifeless, empty wasteland.  Even during rush hour, there are practically no pedestrians on the sidewalks.  There is no mass transit, so everyone must drive into the city.  Massive, hulking parking garages dominate block after block.  There is not a single fine dining restaurant in the downtown.  The streets are very wide and mostly one way.  Crossing them on foot is not advisable.  </p>
<p>Compare this to a very walkable downtown like Philadelphia.  There, the streets are very narrow which makes crossing extremely easy.  The sidewalks are full of people, so you don't feel alone or isolated.  There's many outdoor cafes that adds to the number of people around. In nicer weather, bars and restaurants will remove the front windows so that as you walk by you can really see in, hear the music, smell the food, see and hear people.  I thought that downdown was extremely people-friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Ravin</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29776</link>
		<author>Ed Ravin</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29776</guid>
		<description>I visited Atlanta a few years ago - my favorite observation was that even the street signs on some blocks were set up for cars only - they were mounted overhead, in the center of the traffic lanes.  At one intersection of two one-way streets downtown, pedestrians standing on the wrong corners couldn't tell what the street names were - the street signs were only visible to motorists approaching the intersection.  The perfect example of what happens when planners think that only cars matter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I visited Atlanta a few years ago - my favorite observation was that even the street signs on some blocks were set up for cars only - they were mounted overhead, in the center of the traffic lanes.  At one intersection of two one-way streets downtown, pedestrians standing on the wrong corners couldn't tell what the street names were - the street signs were only visible to motorists approaching the intersection.  The perfect example of what happens when planners think that only cars matter...</p>
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		<title>By: P</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29769</link>
		<author>P</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29769</guid>
		<description>Atlantic Station is weird but Atlanta doesn't have many examples of mixed use communities to learn from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atlantic Station is weird but Atlanta doesn't have many examples of mixed use communities to learn from.</p>
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		<title>By: da</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29768</link>
		<author>da</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29768</guid>
		<description>Ugh, I loathe "lifestyle centers" like Atlantic Station.

The tagline should read:

"LifeÂ® Happens here"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, I loathe "lifestyle centers" like Atlantic Station.</p>
<p>The tagline should read:</p>
<p>"LifeÂ® Happens here"</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29763</link>
		<author>L</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29763</guid>
		<description>I actually think Sarah's description of Atlanta was too kind.

I live in Midtown and I'm counting the days until I move back to NYC.

It's cheap and the weather's nice, but the built environment is so awful that it's difficult to enjoy what the city has to offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think Sarah's description of Atlanta was too kind.</p>
<p>I live in Midtown and I'm counting the days until I move back to NYC.</p>
<p>It's cheap and the weather's nice, but the built environment is so awful that it's difficult to enjoy what the city has to offer.</p>
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		<title>By: d</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29760</link>
		<author>d</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29760</guid>
		<description>To be fair, and to counter my own comment, Atlanta is experimenting with a bus along Peachtree Street, the main thoroughfare through downtown and midtown, where many new condos have gone up.  The hope is to convince people to use it for short trips to eliminate the use of cars for that purpose.  If it's successful, it may be replaced with a trolley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, and to counter my own comment, Atlanta is experimenting with a bus along Peachtree Street, the main thoroughfare through downtown and midtown, where many new condos have gone up.  The hope is to convince people to use it for short trips to eliminate the use of cars for that purpose.  If it's successful, it may be replaced with a trolley.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29757</link>
		<author>Angus Grieve-Smith</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29757</guid>
		<description>I can't speak for Atlanta, or any of the top ten cities except for Raleigh.  But I have been to Raleigh, three or four times.  I didn't think it was a nice place to walk at all.  Downtown is full of one-way arterial streets, and the sidewalks are narrow.  I saw hardly any other pedestrians there.

It seems pretty clear to me that the &lt;i&gt;Prevention&lt;/i&gt; editors are thinking of walking as a chore that people do to keep in shape, or as a recreational activity, not as a form of transportation.  Raleigh certainly has a lot of pretty parks full of walking trails, but you need to spend a lot of time sitting in traffic (in your car, naturally) to get to them; the buses are lame and the commuter rail is ten years behind schedule.  The highways are ten-lane deathtraps.  Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can't speak for Atlanta, or any of the top ten cities except for Raleigh.  But I have been to Raleigh, three or four times.  I didn't think it was a nice place to walk at all.  Downtown is full of one-way arterial streets, and the sidewalks are narrow.  I saw hardly any other pedestrians there.</p>
<p>It seems pretty clear to me that the <i>Prevention</i> editors are thinking of walking as a chore that people do to keep in shape, or as a recreational activity, not as a form of transportation.  Raleigh certainly has a lot of pretty parks full of walking trails, but you need to spend a lot of time sitting in traffic (in your car, naturally) to get to them; the buses are lame and the commuter rail is ten years behind schedule.  The highways are ten-lane deathtraps.  Ugh.</p>
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		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/03/09/report-from-atlanta-dont-walk-this-way/#comment-29756</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D- In fact, I think things are improving rapidly in Atlanta (of course no one interested in transit or walkable communities should step outside of the city limits!)

Midtown was a series of parking and vacant lots 20 years ago.  Since then thousand of units of housing have been built there.  Yes the density is making traffic unbearable- but that's the only way that viable transit solutions (this does not include MARTA) will develop.

Sarah- you definitely picked out the bright spots of Atlanta: not surprisingly they were all streetcar neighborhoods.  And the bike path you noticed was likely the result of a success protest by the neighborhood to prevent the routing of an expressway in-town.  Unfortunately the old homes were demolished but the wacky park and paths were the result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D- In fact, I think things are improving rapidly in Atlanta (of course no one interested in transit or walkable communities should step outside of the city limits!)</p>
<p>Midtown was a series of parking and vacant lots 20 years ago.  Since then thousand of units of housing have been built there.  Yes the density is making traffic unbearable- but that's the only way that viable transit solutions (this does not include MARTA) will develop.</p>
<p>Sarah- you definitely picked out the bright spots of Atlanta: not surprisingly they were all streetcar neighborhoods.  And the bike path you noticed was likely the result of a success protest by the neighborhood to prevent the routing of an expressway in-town.  Unfortunately the old homes were demolished but the wacky park and paths were the result.</p>
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