Comments on: New York Could be a Global Leader in Alternative Energy http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/02/23/new-york-could-be-a-global-leader-in-alternative-energy/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:07:22 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: WIll http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/02/23/new-york-could-be-a-global-leader-in-alternative-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-29344 WIll Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:45:55 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/02/23/new-york-could-be-a-global-leader-in-alternative-energy/#comment-29344 1. is totally right, in a downtown urban environment they built a huge lawn, which will need plenty of 1.) mowing, and 2.) watering and 3.) petroleum based fertilizers. Not to mention the complete lack of use in winter because winds really howl in winter there - I graduated SU 93-94 - its damn colder than buffalo. Lets add on top of that what a shitty insulator glass is, lots of AC required in the summer and lots of heat required in the winter. Most architecture and civil projects are ego driven - this thing makes a mockery of the org's mission. 1. is totally right, in a downtown urban environment they built a huge lawn, which will need plenty of 1.) mowing, and 2.) watering and 3.) petroleum based fertilizers. Not to mention the complete lack of use in winter because winds really howl in winter there - I graduated SU 93-94 - its damn colder than buffalo.

Lets add on top of that what a shitty insulator glass is, lots of AC required in the summer and lots of heat required in the winter.

Most architecture and civil projects are ego driven - this thing makes a mockery of the org's mission.

]]> By: Ken http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/02/23/new-york-could-be-a-global-leader-in-alternative-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-29313 Ken Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:55:53 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/02/23/new-york-could-be-a-global-leader-in-alternative-energy/#comment-29313 Interesting post because Sustainlane just rated NYC as a runner up in a feature called "Top US Cities for Cleantech." check out- http://www.sustainlane.us/articles/cleantech.jsp http://karlenzig.typepad.com/karlenzig/2007/02/sustainlane_gov.html Interesting post because Sustainlane just rated NYC as a runner up in a feature called "Top US Cities for Cleantech."

check out-
http://www.sustainlane.us/articles/cleantech.jsp
http://karlenzig.typepad.com/karlenzig/2007/02/sustainlane_gov.html

]]> By: Charles Siegel http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/02/23/new-york-could-be-a-global-leader-in-alternative-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-29298 Charles Siegel Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:32:49 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/02/23/new-york-could-be-a-global-leader-in-alternative-energy/#comment-29298 Modernist architects think about designing sculptural objects, not about designing places. That is why they want their buildings to be viewed in isolation - to show off the building as a sculpture or icon. At least, they should surround it with switchgrass, which could be used to produce ethanol, which could be used to power the cars that people drive because they didn't create a walkable neighborhood here. Modernist architects think about designing sculptural objects, not about designing places. That is why they want their buildings to be viewed in isolation - to show off the building as a sculpture or icon.

At least, they should surround it with switchgrass, which could be used to produce ethanol, which could be used to power the cars that people drive because they didn't create a walkable neighborhood here.

]]> By: Adam http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/02/23/new-york-could-be-a-global-leader-in-alternative-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-29296 Adam Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:15:20 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/02/23/new-york-could-be-a-global-leader-in-alternative-energy/#comment-29296 It always seems strange to me when I see images like that. Wouldn't you want to play up the strength of how your architecture plays with its surroundings? If your architecture clashes horribly with what's already there and isn't being removed, then your design has a problem. If it doesn't, wouldn't you want to play that up? Buildings pictured in a void should be returned to the architecture with a note, "Please return when your design is complete." But I'm not an architect or planner, so what do I know. It always seems strange to me when I see images like that. Wouldn't you want to play up the strength of how your architecture plays with its surroundings? If your architecture clashes horribly with what's already there and isn't being removed, then your design has a problem. If it doesn't, wouldn't you want to play that up?

Buildings pictured in a void should be returned to the architecture with a note, "Please return when your design is complete."

But I'm not an architect or planner, so what do I know.

]]> By: P http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/02/23/new-york-could-be-a-global-leader-in-alternative-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-29292 P Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:04:55 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/02/23/new-york-could-be-a-global-leader-in-alternative-energy/#comment-29292 But it's surrounded by grass!!! To be fair it could just be architectural ego that excludes from the rendering anything not planned by the <i>designer.</i> But it's surrounded by grass!!!

To be fair it could just be architectural ego that excludes from the rendering anything not planned by the designer.

]]> By: Charles Siegel http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/02/23/new-york-could-be-a-global-leader-in-alternative-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-29288 Charles Siegel Fri, 23 Feb 2007 17:42:00 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/02/23/new-york-could-be-a-global-leader-in-alternative-energy/#comment-29288 Notice the picture of the Center of Excellence in Environmental and Energy Systems. Even though it is in downtown Syracuse, it is set back behind big empty lawns and has nothing at ground level - like a textbook example of how NOT to create a walkable neighborhood. Notice the picture of the Center of Excellence in Environmental and Energy Systems. Even though it is in downtown Syracuse, it is set back behind big empty lawns and has nothing at ground level - like a textbook example of how NOT to create a walkable neighborhood.

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