Comments on: Teaching City Gov’t to Count More Than Just Cars and Trucks http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/23/teaching-nyc-govt-to-count-more-than-just-cars-and-trucks/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:07:22 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Erik Feder http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/23/teaching-nyc-govt-to-count-more-than-just-cars-and-trucks/comment-page-1/#comment-27387 Erik Feder Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:41:19 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/23/teaching-dot-to-count-more-than-just-cars-and-trucks/#comment-27387 I agree that the City's data collection methods about parking are astoundingly bad. While they know how much money they make annually from parking ticket revenue (over $575 million in 2005), they have very little idea how much on-street parking actually exists. Without accurate data, informed decisions cannot be made. I agree that the City's data collection methods about parking are astoundingly bad. While they know how much money they make annually from parking ticket revenue (over $575 million in 2005), they have very little idea how much on-street parking actually exists. Without accurate data, informed decisions cannot be made.

]]> By: JK http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/23/teaching-nyc-govt-to-count-more-than-just-cars-and-trucks/comment-page-1/#comment-27364 JK Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:03:47 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/23/teaching-dot-to-count-more-than-just-cars-and-trucks/#comment-27364 Great work TA, Schaller and Paul S White. City Council and DOT would be wise to support Intro 199 in the interest of smarter transportation and better govt. As the study suggests, the city is flying blind when it comes to transportation decision making. Along with traffic, the city should also be keeping track of on and off street parking, and proposals for new parking. It is astounding that the city --- which doesnt know how much parking there currently is --- is approving new parking garages that are adding thousands of new spots to already traffic choked neighborhoods. One fears that the effort to create a "sustainable" city maybe lost before it begins. Great work TA, Schaller and Paul S White. City Council and DOT would be wise to support Intro 199 in the interest of smarter transportation and better govt. As the study suggests, the city is flying blind when it comes to transportation decision making. Along with traffic, the city should also be keeping track of on and off street parking, and proposals for new parking. It is astounding that the city --- which doesnt know how much parking there currently is --- is approving new parking garages that are adding thousands of new spots to already traffic choked neighborhoods. One fears that the effort to create a "sustainable" city maybe lost before it begins.

]]> By: Adam http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/23/teaching-nyc-govt-to-count-more-than-just-cars-and-trucks/comment-page-1/#comment-27354 Adam Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:16:34 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/23/teaching-dot-to-count-more-than-just-cars-and-trucks/#comment-27354 Works for me. Try this link: <a href="http://www.vtpi.org/" rel="nofollow">VTPI</a> Works for me. Try this link: VTPI

]]> By: Benjamin Hemric http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/23/teaching-nyc-govt-to-count-more-than-just-cars-and-trucks/comment-page-1/#comment-27352 Benjamin Hemric Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:01:21 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/23/teaching-dot-to-count-more-than-just-cars-and-trucks/#comment-27352 What's Vtpi.org? (I tried finding this website by pasting "vtpi.org" into the "Windows" address bar and that didn't work.) What's Vtpi.org? (I tried finding this website by pasting "vtpi.org" into the "Windows" address bar and that didn't work.)

]]> By: nomobility http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/23/teaching-nyc-govt-to-count-more-than-just-cars-and-trucks/comment-page-1/#comment-27350 nomobility Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:53:08 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/23/teaching-dot-to-count-more-than-just-cars-and-trucks/#comment-27350 Focusing on reducing the speed of a trip is a (probably unintentional) anti-pedestrian and anti-bicycling measuremment. I agree that DOT needs to be measuring much more than Manhattan cars, but everything needs to be in a framework of measuring access, not mobility. Mobility gets you nowhere. Look at vtpi.org for a lot more details on why that is and how to measure access. I assume that the driving-oriented nature of Intro. 199 is a political move to win more supporters and not the reflection of what T.A. actually wants to accomplish for our city. Those goals don't add up to a walking based city with great transit and comfortable and ubiquitous bicycling. They add up to things like lots of fast buses and bike lanes on fast streets. Focusing on reducing the speed of a trip is a (probably unintentional) anti-pedestrian and anti-bicycling measuremment. I agree that DOT needs to be measuring much more than Manhattan cars, but everything needs to be in a framework of measuring access, not mobility. Mobility gets you nowhere. Look at vtpi.org for a lot more details on why that is and how to measure access.

I assume that the driving-oriented nature of Intro. 199 is a political move to win more supporters and not the reflection of what T.A. actually wants to accomplish for our city. Those goals don't add up to a walking based city with great transit and comfortable and ubiquitous bicycling. They add up to things like lots of fast buses and bike lanes on fast streets.

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