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	<title>Comments on: Making Hell&#8217;s Kitchen Less Hellish</title>
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		<title>By: ABG</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-28112</link>
		<dc:creator>ABG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 18:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make that &quot;we need at least a little more transit imagination &lt;b&gt;beyond&lt;/b&gt; the Second Avenue Subway, the THE tunnel, and BRT.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make that &#8220;we need at least a little more transit imagination <b>beyond</b> the Second Avenue Subway, the THE tunnel, and BRT.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ABG</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-28111</link>
		<dc:creator>ABG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 18:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David K., we may not need that exact list of improvements, but we need at least some more transit imagination behind the Second Avenue Subway, the THE Tunnel and BRT.

The challenge is that a lot of the people who&#039;ve settled in the subway-less, trolley-robbed low-density tracts of Central and Eastern Queens and Southeastern Brooklyn have become NIMBY car potatoes.  So far they&#039;ve been able to block the N extension to La Guardia and the restoration of the Rockaway Cutoff.  They may also be in a position to block funding for the South 4th Street Tunnel and a lot of the other improvements you recommend.  How do you plan to convert or overcome them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David K., we may not need that exact list of improvements, but we need at least some more transit imagination behind the Second Avenue Subway, the THE Tunnel and BRT.</p>
<p>The challenge is that a lot of the people who&#8217;ve settled in the subway-less, trolley-robbed low-density tracts of Central and Eastern Queens and Southeastern Brooklyn have become NIMBY car potatoes.  So far they&#8217;ve been able to block the N extension to La Guardia and the restoration of the Rockaway Cutoff.  They may also be in a position to block funding for the South 4th Street Tunnel and a lot of the other improvements you recommend.  How do you plan to convert or overcome them?</p>
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		<title>By: David Kupferberg</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-28101</link>
		<dc:creator>David Kupferberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 06:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what we REALLY need:

- Second Avenue Subway (four tracks north of Houston Street)

- Extend Second Avenue Subway to The Bronx and via JFK Rail Link

- Extend 7 Train via High Line

- 4-track 34 Street-LIE Line

- Utica Avenue Line via 6th Avenue Express (current 6th Ave Express via 2nd Ave Local)

- Extend Nostrand Ave IRT to Kings Plaza

- Extend New Lots IRT to Spring Creek

- Convert LIRR Port Washington Branch to TA Operation

- Restore Rockaway Cutoff

- Extend A from Lefferts Blvd to Jamaica

- Upgrade Jamaica BMT between Broadway Junction and 121 St for express service

- Extend F to eastern Queens

- Extend E to Valley Stream (convert LIRR St Albans service to TA operation)

(The truth hurts, eh?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what we REALLY need:</p>
<p>- Second Avenue Subway (four tracks north of Houston Street)</p>
<p>- Extend Second Avenue Subway to The Bronx and via JFK Rail Link</p>
<p>- Extend 7 Train via High Line</p>
<p>- 4-track 34 Street-LIE Line</p>
<p>- Utica Avenue Line via 6th Avenue Express (current 6th Ave Express via 2nd Ave Local)</p>
<p>- Extend Nostrand Ave IRT to Kings Plaza</p>
<p>- Extend New Lots IRT to Spring Creek</p>
<p>- Convert LIRR Port Washington Branch to TA Operation</p>
<p>- Restore Rockaway Cutoff</p>
<p>- Extend A from Lefferts Blvd to Jamaica</p>
<p>- Upgrade Jamaica BMT between Broadway Junction and 121 St for express service</p>
<p>- Extend F to eastern Queens</p>
<p>- Extend E to Valley Stream (convert LIRR St Albans service to TA operation)</p>
<p>(The truth hurts, eh?)</p>
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		<title>By: David Kupferberg</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-28100</link>
		<dc:creator>David Kupferberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 05:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FACT: A two-track Second Avenue Subway will be at capacity by 2027. If you don&#039;t believe me, read the EIS.

Oh, yeah. George Haikalis, Stephen Dobrow (R.I.P.), myself, and others have long advocated the East Side Access Upper Level Loop Alternative (ULLA).  The MTA&#039;s Deep Cavern Alternative (DCA) would prevent NJT from operating to Grand Central Terminal, cost at least $1 billion more, and be a major terrorist target.  We have been able to QUALitatively and QUANTITatively show how the ULLA is far superior to their DCA.

www.irum.org

David Kupferberg
Member, Committee for Better Transit, Inc.
http://brooklynbus.tripod.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FACT: A two-track Second Avenue Subway will be at capacity by 2027. If you don&#8217;t believe me, read the EIS.</p>
<p>Oh, yeah. George Haikalis, Stephen Dobrow (R.I.P.), myself, and others have long advocated the East Side Access Upper Level Loop Alternative (ULLA).  The MTA&#8217;s Deep Cavern Alternative (DCA) would prevent NJT from operating to Grand Central Terminal, cost at least $1 billion more, and be a major terrorist target.  We have been able to QUALitatively and QUANTITatively show how the ULLA is far superior to their DCA.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.irum.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.irum.org</a></p>
<p>David Kupferberg<br />
Member, Committee for Better Transit, Inc.<br />
<a href="http://brooklynbus.tripod.com/" rel="nofollow">http://brooklynbus.tripod.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-26776</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope Stringer is not a hero, but a good politician. It would be a sign of progress if talking about pricing, and reclaiming the streets from traffic is now good politics --- at least in Manhattan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Stringer is not a hero, but a good politician. It would be a sign of progress if talking about pricing, and reclaiming the streets from traffic is now good politics &#8212; at least in Manhattan.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, she&#039;s taken.

BTW: it is Charles Schumer, not Chuck Shumer.  Who dat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, she&#8217;s taken.</p>
<p>BTW: it is Charles Schumer, not Chuck Shumer.  Who dat?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iris Weinshall is Chuck Shumer&#039;s wife?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iris Weinshall is Chuck Shumer&#8217;s wife?!</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Crunch</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-26771</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Crunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI:

Iris Weinshall was appointed Commissioner of the Department of Transportation on September 8, 2000.  Ms. Weinshall came to that position after a career of more than 20 years in city government. Her most recent previous position was First Deputy Commissioner of the Department of Citywide Administrative Services.

Commissioner Weinshall served from 1988 to 1996 as Deputy Commissioner for Management and Budget at the Department of Environmental Protection. Previously, she was President of the New York City Financial Services Corporation, a nonprofit organization which functioned as the financing arm for the Cityâ€™s economic development initiatives. Prior to this, she served as Regional Vice President of Integrated Resources, Inc. where she structured limited partnerships for property acquisition and operation. Earlier, she held the position of Senior Vice President of the New York State Urban Development Corporation, where she oversaw the development and implementation of the Stateâ€™s overall economic development program.

Iris Weinshall is a lifelong resident of Brooklyn, attended Brooklyn College where she earned her Bachelor of Arts degree in History and received her Masters in Public Administration from NYU. She is married to U.S. Senator Charles Schumer and they have two daughters. She was appointed Commissioner on September 8, 2000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI:</p>
<p>Iris Weinshall was appointed Commissioner of the Department of Transportation on September 8, 2000.  Ms. Weinshall came to that position after a career of more than 20 years in city government. Her most recent previous position was First Deputy Commissioner of the Department of Citywide Administrative Services.</p>
<p>Commissioner Weinshall served from 1988 to 1996 as Deputy Commissioner for Management and Budget at the Department of Environmental Protection. Previously, she was President of the New York City Financial Services Corporation, a nonprofit organization which functioned as the financing arm for the Cityâ€™s economic development initiatives. Prior to this, she served as Regional Vice President of Integrated Resources, Inc. where she structured limited partnerships for property acquisition and operation. Earlier, she held the position of Senior Vice President of the New York State Urban Development Corporation, where she oversaw the development and implementation of the Stateâ€™s overall economic development program.</p>
<p>Iris Weinshall is a lifelong resident of Brooklyn, attended Brooklyn College where she earned her Bachelor of Arts degree in History and received her Masters in Public Administration from NYU. She is married to U.S. Senator Charles Schumer and they have two daughters. She was appointed Commissioner on September 8, 2000.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-26770</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What about the huge swaths of Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island that aren&#039;t served by subways? How about bringing back the trolleys that used to run in between the subway lines in the outer boroughs? How about updating the never-implemented IND Second System plan?&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What about the huge swaths of Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island that aren&#8217;t served by subways? How about bringing back the trolleys that used to run in between the subway lines in the outer boroughs? How about updating the never-implemented IND Second System plan?</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: ABG</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-26752</link>
		<dc:creator>ABG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, BC.  I&#039;d add three more ideas that &quot;we&quot;ve had since we built the subways: parkways, expressways and car tunnels.  And we had the will to put them in place too!  Too bad they were sucky ideas.

As far as mass transit goes, the Second Avenue Subway, the THE Tunnel (stupid name) and George&#039;s light-rail plans are good ideas.  BRT is an idea, but it&#039;s problematic.

Is that it?  Is that all we got?  What about the huge swaths of Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island that aren&#039;t served by subways?  How about bringing back the trolleys that used to run in between the subway lines in the outer boroughs?  How about updating the never-implemented IND Second System plan?  Why is everyone&#039;s vision so limited?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, BC.  I&#8217;d add three more ideas that &#8220;we&#8221;ve had since we built the subways: parkways, expressways and car tunnels.  And we had the will to put them in place too!  Too bad they were sucky ideas.</p>
<p>As far as mass transit goes, the Second Avenue Subway, the THE Tunnel (stupid name) and George&#8217;s light-rail plans are good ideas.  BRT is an idea, but it&#8217;s problematic.</p>
<p>Is that it?  Is that all we got?  What about the huge swaths of Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island that aren&#8217;t served by subways?  How about bringing back the trolleys that used to run in between the subway lines in the outer boroughs?  How about updating the never-implemented IND Second System plan?  Why is everyone&#8217;s vision so limited?</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-26750</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 03:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is saying he&#039;s taking a big risk? I didn&#039;t hear that. The only real power a borough president has is his bully pulpit and it&#039;s not even that big of a pulpit. Stringer is using his limited media time and space to talk about a set of policy issues that no one else will talk about on the citywide level and he deserves credit for that. Virginia Fields didn&#039;t talk about it. And you don&#039;t see a whole lot of Manhattan Councilmembers talking about it either. Stringer is the only guy. 

Frankly, when you&#039;re the only guy putting forward an issue, there is an element of risk-taking in that. Especially in Bloomberg NYC where most of the rest of the city&#039;s electeds, officials and business elite are in communications lock-down, afraid to say anything that might be getting out in front of the Big Guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is saying he&#8217;s taking a big risk? I didn&#8217;t hear that. The only real power a borough president has is his bully pulpit and it&#8217;s not even that big of a pulpit. Stringer is using his limited media time and space to talk about a set of policy issues that no one else will talk about on the citywide level and he deserves credit for that. Virginia Fields didn&#8217;t talk about it. And you don&#8217;t see a whole lot of Manhattan Councilmembers talking about it either. Stringer is the only guy. </p>
<p>Frankly, when you&#8217;re the only guy putting forward an issue, there is an element of risk-taking in that. Especially in Bloomberg NYC where most of the rest of the city&#8217;s electeds, officials and business elite are in communications lock-down, afraid to say anything that might be getting out in front of the Big Guy.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 03:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iris Weinshall has been DOT Commissioner for 6 years, not 8. And how brave is Scott Stringer? He is Manhattan boro president, and the opposition to congestion pricing is in Queens and Brooklyn. He&#039;s not risking anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iris Weinshall has been DOT Commissioner for 6 years, not 8. And how brave is Scott Stringer? He is Manhattan boro president, and the opposition to congestion pricing is in Queens and Brooklyn. He&#8217;s not risking anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-26744</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a long time resident on 44th street, there are times (matinee day, summer Friday get away time) that I cannot hear myself think with the honking of horns and the screaming of people in cars for hours.  And that is with the windows closed.  You have to take into account not just the pollution, car conjestion, danger of the elderly crossing the streets; think about the mental health of the residents that live here.  The cars come and go, we live here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a long time resident on 44th street, there are times (matinee day, summer Friday get away time) that I cannot hear myself think with the honking of horns and the screaming of people in cars for hours.  And that is with the windows closed.  You have to take into account not just the pollution, car conjestion, danger of the elderly crossing the streets; think about the mental health of the residents that live here.  The cars come and go, we live here.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-26743</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>H&#039;mm, though not &quot;visionary&quot; I like Thru Streets and do think it&#039;s actually an innovative approach to helping pedestrians while keeping traffic moving. Also, while bold and visionary is wonderful, keep in mind what the great Jan Gehl said about making many small changes every year, year after year until a big change has been wrought. This is the idea behind the Safe Routes to School program --- which Stringer and the advocates should push in a much bigger way. 

Incidentally, it&#039;s interesting that Fred Kent senses NYC is ready for big changes. Fred has been around for a long time. Unfortunately, I&#039;m  not sure that the Queens and Brooklyn assemblymembers who control the balance of power in the Assembly are anywhere near voting to give the mayor the power to create a cogestion pricing zone --- which is probably the only measure able to reduce the regional traffic in Hells Kitchen and other neighborhoods with the misfortune of being near a bridge or tunnel entrance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H&#8217;mm, though not &#8220;visionary&#8221; I like Thru Streets and do think it&#8217;s actually an innovative approach to helping pedestrians while keeping traffic moving. Also, while bold and visionary is wonderful, keep in mind what the great Jan Gehl said about making many small changes every year, year after year until a big change has been wrought. This is the idea behind the Safe Routes to School program &#8212; which Stringer and the advocates should push in a much bigger way. </p>
<p>Incidentally, it&#8217;s interesting that Fred Kent senses NYC is ready for big changes. Fred has been around for a long time. Unfortunately, I&#8217;m  not sure that the Queens and Brooklyn assemblymembers who control the balance of power in the Assembly are anywhere near voting to give the mayor the power to create a cogestion pricing zone &#8212; which is probably the only measure able to reduce the regional traffic in Hells Kitchen and other neighborhoods with the misfortune of being near a bridge or tunnel entrance.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-26741</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BC,

Don&#039;t forget about Thru Streets -- the biggest transportation idea that&#039;s been implemented during the 8 years of the Iris Weinshall regime. Visionary!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BC,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget about Thru Streets &#8212; the biggest transportation idea that&#8217;s been implemented during the 8 years of the Iris Weinshall regime. Visionary!</p>
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		<title>By: Q.R.</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-26738</link>
		<dc:creator>Q.R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to be a tool, but you mean &quot;Clinton&quot;, not &quot;Clinton Hill&quot;, right? Although saying &quot;Hell&#039;s Kitchen and Clinton&quot; is kind of silly anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to be a tool, but you mean &#8220;Clinton&#8221;, not &#8220;Clinton Hill&#8221;, right? Although saying &#8220;Hell&#8217;s Kitchen and Clinton&#8221; is kind of silly anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-26731</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not from this neighborhood, although I worked at the McGraw-Hill building during the 1980s.  I am curious what the 9th Avenue Renassiance people think about the transformation of the adjacent Time Square area into such a tourist magnet.  No doubt most welcome the removal of the sex shops, but I&#039;m wondering whether the traffic problem is driven not only by the Lincoln Tunnel but also the tourists.  

More generally, how (if at all) does planning public spaces differ when you anticipate lots of tourism, as compared to when you are thinking exclusively about local residents?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not from this neighborhood, although I worked at the McGraw-Hill building during the 1980s.  I am curious what the 9th Avenue Renassiance people think about the transformation of the adjacent Time Square area into such a tourist magnet.  No doubt most welcome the removal of the sex shops, but I&#8217;m wondering whether the traffic problem is driven not only by the Lincoln Tunnel but also the tourists.  </p>
<p>More generally, how (if at all) does planning public spaces differ when you anticipate lots of tourism, as compared to when you are thinking exclusively about local residents?</p>
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		<title>By: BC</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-26730</link>
		<dc:creator>BC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep going Stringer. But dump the &quot;There&#039;s been no new idea&quot; line. It&#039;s wrong and stupid. There&#039;s been tons of new ideas about transportation and you mentioned a few last night: congestion pricing, which has been talked about since the 1950&#039;s, and BRT. Mayor Lindsay had carfree 5th Ave and almost made Central Park carfree. It&#039;s not the ideas which are missing, but the will to put them in place. 

Stringers new speech: &quot;The ideas for making a better future are out there. Now let&#039;s put them in place.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep going Stringer. But dump the &#8220;There&#8217;s been no new idea&#8221; line. It&#8217;s wrong and stupid. There&#8217;s been tons of new ideas about transportation and you mentioned a few last night: congestion pricing, which has been talked about since the 1950&#8242;s, and BRT. Mayor Lindsay had carfree 5th Ave and almost made Central Park carfree. It&#8217;s not the ideas which are missing, but the will to put them in place. </p>
<p>Stringers new speech: &#8220;The ideas for making a better future are out there. Now let&#8217;s put them in place.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Hood</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-26727</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>130 people for a community &quot;Town Hall Meeting&quot; at the beginning of a community process is incredible and inspiring!

Kudos to the Department of City Planning and Jack Schmidt (Traffic Division) for attending with 2 other planners.  Working with communities is not an easy process, their attendance is a positive first step.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>130 people for a community &#8220;Town Hall Meeting&#8221; at the beginning of a community process is incredible and inspiring!</p>
<p>Kudos to the Department of City Planning and Jack Schmidt (Traffic Division) for attending with 2 other planners.  Working with communities is not an easy process, their attendance is a positive first step.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/10/residents-want-less-hell-for-hells-kitchen/comment-page-1/#comment-26725</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The video shows Stringer talking some good ideas and about congestition pricing.  He is a brave person, but with more support for it than ever and a public warming to the idea, more politicans should be so frank and honest.

It really blows my mind that Mayor Bloomberg can be so damn good on just about any other issue except Transportation.  And that is the one issue that is most intergral to the whole city.  I mean we all do it EVERY DAY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The video shows Stringer talking some good ideas and about congestition pricing.  He is a brave person, but with more support for it than ever and a public warming to the idea, more politicans should be so frank and honest.</p>
<p>It really blows my mind that Mayor Bloomberg can be so damn good on just about any other issue except Transportation.  And that is the one issue that is most intergral to the whole city.  I mean we all do it EVERY DAY!</p>
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