Comments on: Seoul’s New Heart http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:07:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Karla http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-16665 Karla Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:41:51 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/#comment-16665 Actually the man that spearheaded this improvement (former Mayor of Seoul Lee Myung-bak), in addition to BRT improvements that revolutionized the bus system is considering running for presidents. He is considered a favorite. In Seoul he is very popular as a result of these changes. Maybe someone should send a memo to Mayor Bloomberg on this. Actually the man that spearheaded this improvement (former Mayor of Seoul Lee Myung-bak), in addition to BRT improvements that revolutionized the bus system is considering running for presidents. He is considered a favorite. In Seoul he is very popular as a result of these changes. Maybe someone should send a memo to Mayor Bloomberg on this.

]]> By: Fritz http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-16582 Fritz Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:39:56 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/#comment-16582 The Embarcadero Freeway (Hwy 480) in San Francisco was demolished in 1991. This ugly double-decker elevated highway shadowed a big chunk of the waterfront and uglified the skyline by dominating the view from the Bay. Today, the Embaradero is a nice waterfront parkway with heavy pedestrian traffic and decent tourist attractions. The Embarcadero Freeway (Hwy 480) in San Francisco was demolished in 1991. This ugly double-decker elevated highway shadowed a big chunk of the waterfront and uglified the skyline by dominating the view from the Bay.

Today, the Embaradero is a nice waterfront parkway with heavy pedestrian traffic and decent tourist attractions.

]]> By: Jonathan Maus http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-16247 Jonathan Maus Sun, 10 Dec 2006 08:31:14 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/#comment-16247 Thanks for pointing this out. Amazing to see because there is a major effort to do something similar in downtown Portland, Oregon.... "<a href="http://bikeportland.org/2006/11/16/imagine-the-central-eastside-minus-that-pesky-freeway/" rel="nofollow">Image the central eastside, minus that pesky freeway</a>" Thanks for pointing this out. Amazing to see because there is a major effort to do something similar in downtown Portland, Oregon….

“Image the central eastside, minus that pesky freeway“

]]> By: crzwdjk http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-15916 crzwdjk Sat, 09 Dec 2006 01:47:30 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/#comment-15916 Yep, that elevated West Side Highway south of 59th street will stay up there like it has since the 1920s. Oh wait. Yep, that elevated West Side Highway south of 59th street will stay up there like it has since the 1920s. Oh wait.

]]> By: Garry http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-15903 Garry Sat, 09 Dec 2006 00:33:06 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/#comment-15903 Ha! now that's sure one thing that will never happen here. Dismounting a roadway? Unthinkable! That's it, I'm moving to Netherlands. Ha! now that’s sure one thing that will never happen here. Dismounting a roadway? Unthinkable! That’s it, I’m moving to Netherlands.

]]> By: ddartley http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-15863 ddartley Fri, 08 Dec 2006 21:45:58 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/#comment-15863 Perhaps that cooling of 3.6 degrees is not only because of the water, but because of the abscense of a thousand open-doored-ovens on wheels, which is what cars are. Perhaps that cooling of 3.6 degrees is not only because of the water, but because of the abscense of a thousand open-doored-ovens on wheels, which is what cars are.

]]> By: Lane Wyden http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-15858 Lane Wyden Fri, 08 Dec 2006 21:11:14 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/#comment-15858 NYC's own ITDP.org gave Seoul an award for this and other improvements back in Feb at the TRB conference in DC: http://www.itdp.org/STe/ste20/seoul.html NYC’s own ITDP.org gave Seoul an award for this and other improvements back in Feb at the TRB conference in DC: http://www.itdp.org/STe/ste20/seoul.html

]]> By: Glenn http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-15856 Glenn Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:53:18 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/#comment-15856 One of my regular prayers is that some engineer finds a structural defect in the FDR elevated portions and they have to reconfigure it like on the West Side at street level and allow the street grid to extend to the river. One of my regular prayers is that some engineer finds a structural defect in the FDR elevated portions and they have to reconfigure it like on the West Side at street level and allow the street grid to extend to the river.

]]> By: jpf http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-15845 jpf Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:23:34 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/#comment-15845 Readers should note that the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braess_paradox" rel="nofollow">Braess Paradox</a> <i>only</i> applies in the case of a particular configuration of roadways and congestion levels, so one should be careful before expecting the same reductions in congestion elsewhere as happened in this case in Seoul. Readers should note that the Braess Paradox only applies in the case of a particular configuration of roadways and congestion levels, so one should be careful before expecting the same reductions in congestion elsewhere as happened in this case in Seoul.

]]> By: crzwdjk http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-15806 crzwdjk Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:32:39 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/12/08/seouls-new-heart/#comment-15806 It doesn't hurt that Seoul has one of the most extensive and fastest growing subway systems in the world. It doesn’t hurt that Seoul has one of the most extensive and fastest growing subway systems in the world.

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