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	<title>Comments on: Downtown Brooklyn Traffic Calming Project: Ten Years On</title>
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		<title>By: bklynpol</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/10/26/downtown-brooklyn-traffic-calming-project-ten-years-on/comment-page-1/#comment-8093</link>
		<dc:creator>bklynpol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Howard Golden led the fight and funded this project.  What&#039;s Marty been doing these past five years???  Oh right, giving concerts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Howard Golden led the fight and funded this project.  What&#8217;s Marty been doing these past five years???  Oh right, giving concerts.</p>
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		<title>By: P</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/10/26/downtown-brooklyn-traffic-calming-project-ten-years-on/comment-page-1/#comment-8033</link>
		<dc:creator>P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point, JK.  If congestion pricing is going to win politically it has to be understood that the benefits are not limited to Manhattan.  The outer boroughs have a reflexive opposition to being forced to pay extra for access to Manhattan.  It must be demonstrated that an increase in the cost of driving a car to Manhattan will be paired with enhanced transit access and travel times as well as a benefit in the livability on Flatbush Ave, Atlantic Ave, Grand Ave, Queens Plaza, and dozens of other places.  

Advocates need to remember that only a small percentage of New Yorkers live in the likely congestion pricing zone and abstract, technocratic arguments will not win the day in Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn, and that other place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point, JK.  If congestion pricing is going to win politically it has to be understood that the benefits are not limited to Manhattan.  The outer boroughs have a reflexive opposition to being forced to pay extra for access to Manhattan.  It must be demonstrated that an increase in the cost of driving a car to Manhattan will be paired with enhanced transit access and travel times as well as a benefit in the livability on Flatbush Ave, Atlantic Ave, Grand Ave, Queens Plaza, and dozens of other places.  </p>
<p>Advocates need to remember that only a small percentage of New Yorkers live in the likely congestion pricing zone and abstract, technocratic arguments will not win the day in Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn, and that other place.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/10/26/downtown-brooklyn-traffic-calming-project-ten-years-on/comment-page-1/#comment-8004</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atlantic Ave is another big arguement for a congestion relief zone in Manhattan. 40% of vehicles in Downtown Bklyn are heading to Manhattan. Without reducing the upstream traffic pressure, it will be very tough to make Atlantic the beautiful, pedestrian friendly boulevard it could be. 

The patient is sick. The arteries are clogged. Add another million people, vehicles, trucks to the arteries and how much sicker will the patient be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atlantic Ave is another big arguement for a congestion relief zone in Manhattan. 40% of vehicles in Downtown Bklyn are heading to Manhattan. Without reducing the upstream traffic pressure, it will be very tough to make Atlantic the beautiful, pedestrian friendly boulevard it could be. </p>
<p>The patient is sick. The arteries are clogged. Add another million people, vehicles, trucks to the arteries and how much sicker will the patient be?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/10/26/downtown-brooklyn-traffic-calming-project-ten-years-on/comment-page-1/#comment-7967</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 02:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well... Jo Anne Simon of Boerum Hill said it best in her speech at the rally: &quot;I&#039;m still holding up the same damned signs.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; Jo Anne Simon of Boerum Hill said it best in her speech at the rally: &#8220;I&#8217;m still holding up the same damned signs.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: P</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/10/26/downtown-brooklyn-traffic-calming-project-ten-years-on/comment-page-1/#comment-7916</link>
		<dc:creator>P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know how to throw some cold water on a rally...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know how to throw some cold water on a rally&#8230;</p>
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