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	<title>Comments on: NYPD Parking Abuse Scandal Widens</title>
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		<title>By: Efficiency Nut</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/09/07/nypd-parking-scandal-widens/comment-page-2/#comment-28086</link>
		<dc:creator>Efficiency Nut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, on the contract, I have yet to see any of the contracts stipulate that the city has to provide parking for every officer who works patrol commands.  The contracts state that the city shall endeavor to provide parking as it is available, which in no way justifies painting parking spaces on sidewalks, parking in front of hydrants, adding diagonal parking in NO PARKING zone streets, or any other measure that is currently being used without repercussion.  

The PBA will say this loudly, and it will be trumpeted constantly by those who want to defend the illegal parking practices, but it is nowhere in the contract, nowhere on record with the Department of Labor, it is not justified, not respectful of the neighborhoods where it happens, and it is not cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, on the contract, I have yet to see any of the contracts stipulate that the city has to provide parking for every officer who works patrol commands.  The contracts state that the city shall endeavor to provide parking as it is available, which in no way justifies painting parking spaces on sidewalks, parking in front of hydrants, adding diagonal parking in NO PARKING zone streets, or any other measure that is currently being used without repercussion.  </p>
<p>The PBA will say this loudly, and it will be trumpeted constantly by those who want to defend the illegal parking practices, but it is nowhere in the contract, nowhere on record with the Department of Labor, it is not justified, not respectful of the neighborhoods where it happens, and it is not cool.</p>
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		<title>By: ABG</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/09/07/nypd-parking-scandal-widens/comment-page-2/#comment-28085</link>
		<dc:creator>ABG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ian!  If there&#039;s any truth to this, it definitely deserves some kind of campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ian!  If there's any truth to this, it definitely deserves some kind of campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian D</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/09/07/nypd-parking-scandal-widens/comment-page-2/#comment-28084</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a related note - perhaps that deserves its own blog entry - The Villager is reporting that the popular new C.O. of the 5th Precinct (Chinatown/Little Italy), Deputy Inspector Michael Lau, is being &quot;pushed out&quot; because he was cracking down on illegal police parkers.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thevillager.com/villager_196/meterstickingdownon.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.thevillager.com/villager_196/meterstickingdownon.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a related note - perhaps that deserves its own blog entry - The Villager is reporting that the popular new C.O. of the 5th Precinct (Chinatown/Little Italy), Deputy Inspector Michael Lau, is being "pushed out" because he was cracking down on illegal police parkers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thevillager.com/villager_196/meterstickingdownon.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thevillager.com/villager_196/meterstickingdownon.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: galvoguy</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/09/07/nypd-parking-scandal-widens/comment-page-2/#comment-28077</link>
		<dc:creator>galvoguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bugg wrote &quot;The PBA&#039;s contract with the City stipulates that the City is to provide parking for officers assigned to patrol commands, since they have to work around the clock, nights and weekends. It was collectively bargained for and agreed to by the City, which otherwise has used the Taylor Law to ram awful contracts down their collective throats.&quot;
i always see this brought up by the NYPD, I guess the rank and file no not understand how collective bargaining works.  If your contract is violated, you file a grievance; you do not have the right to take it upon yourself to gain what you think you have lost. For instance if your contract stated you get paid for double time on Sunday, you find your paycheck short this amount, you do not have the right to steal from a MTA booth  the monies. If your contract does state you are to be provided parking and none is provided, that the tickets you rightfully receive should be brought to your union delegateâ€™s attention and the city should be made to pay for the tickets. If no free and legal parking is available in the area and there is paid parking nearby, you could park there and submit the receipts to your supervisor and union to be reimbursed.  If they donâ€™t reimburse you take it up with the many levels of grievance steps and settle it at arbitration. If your contract states that you canâ€™t be force transferred to a distant station house due to seniority, do you refuse to go there and continue to show up where you want to work? Nope you do what youâ€™re ordered to do and take it up with the union. If your union is weak, that is a labor problem not the pedestrian and citizens problem. The proper remedy with any violation of a labor contract is the take it up with local management, if no satisfaction than you run it through the grievance procedures. Since you brought up the Taylor law, do you decide to go on strike if they violate the contract? Not unless you want some heavy financial repercussions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bugg wrote "The PBA's contract with the City stipulates that the City is to provide parking for officers assigned to patrol commands, since they have to work around the clock, nights and weekends. It was collectively bargained for and agreed to by the City, which otherwise has used the Taylor Law to ram awful contracts down their collective throats."<br />
i always see this brought up by the NYPD, I guess the rank and file no not understand how collective bargaining works.  If your contract is violated, you file a grievance; you do not have the right to take it upon yourself to gain what you think you have lost. For instance if your contract stated you get paid for double time on Sunday, you find your paycheck short this amount, you do not have the right to steal from a MTA booth  the monies. If your contract does state you are to be provided parking and none is provided, that the tickets you rightfully receive should be brought to your union delegateâ€™s attention and the city should be made to pay for the tickets. If no free and legal parking is available in the area and there is paid parking nearby, you could park there and submit the receipts to your supervisor and union to be reimbursed.  If they donâ€™t reimburse you take it up with the many levels of grievance steps and settle it at arbitration. If your contract states that you canâ€™t be force transferred to a distant station house due to seniority, do you refuse to go there and continue to show up where you want to work? Nope you do what youâ€™re ordered to do and take it up with the union. If your union is weak, that is a labor problem not the pedestrian and citizens problem. The proper remedy with any violation of a labor contract is the take it up with local management, if no satisfaction than you run it through the grievance procedures. Since you brought up the Taylor law, do you decide to go on strike if they violate the contract? Not unless you want some heavy financial repercussions.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good morning. Glad to see that this has spurred some interest in dialogue with community boards, etc. On a semi-humorous note, Aaron, re Comments 53 and 55, does &quot;Ah hah&quot; mean, &quot;Sorry John,I was wrong, you weren&#039;t making up the part about the Nazi acronym &quot;? ( Thank you, Steve, for the back-up.):)Seriously,though, I&#039;m encouraged that you guys would consider enhanced communication with One Police Plaza and the Community Boards. It&#039;s a proper step and I hope it will help in reaching an equitable solution. Have a pleasant (albeit chilly) day, gents. I&#039;ll check in again soon. Stay well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning. Glad to see that this has spurred some interest in dialogue with community boards, etc. On a semi-humorous note, Aaron, re Comments 53 and 55, does "Ah hah" mean, "Sorry John,I was wrong, you weren't making up the part about the Nazi acronym "? ( Thank you, Steve, for the back-up.):)Seriously,though, I'm encouraged that you guys would consider enhanced communication with One Police Plaza and the Community Boards. It's a proper step and I hope it will help in reaching an equitable solution. Have a pleasant (albeit chilly) day, gents. I'll check in again soon. Stay well.</p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/09/07/nypd-parking-scandal-widens/comment-page-2/#comment-27541</link>
		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry two times---didn&#039;t mean to post on this discussion.. Beg pardon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry two times---didn't mean to post on this discussion.. Beg pardon.</p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/09/07/nypd-parking-scandal-widens/comment-page-2/#comment-27535</link>
		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry--for anyone interested in the history of David&#039;s non-use of sources and then nefarious use of sources, please go here:

http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/19/battle-of-the-weatherpeople/#comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry--for anyone interested in the history of David's non-use of sources and then nefarious use of sources, please go here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/19/battle-of-the-weatherpeople/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/01/19/battle-of-the-weatherpeople/#comments</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CB 7 Transporation Committee (which covers the lot we are discussing) meets the 2nd Tuesday of the month. Details to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CB 7 Transporation Committee (which covers the lot we are discussing) meets the 2nd Tuesday of the month. Details to follow.</p>
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		<title>By: ddartley</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/09/07/nypd-parking-scandal-widens/comment-page-2/#comment-27522</link>
		<dc:creator>ddartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe some polite literature to precincts about how socially and environmentally destructive driving to work can be?  These days it would be good not to assume that cops are averse to such information.  Might do better than accusatory stuff.  I got to start going to some CB meetings, for all my talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe some polite literature to precincts about how socially and environmentally destructive driving to work can be?  These days it would be good not to assume that cops are averse to such information.  Might do better than accusatory stuff.  I got to start going to some CB meetings, for all my talk.</p>
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		<title>By: police parking</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/09/07/nypd-parking-scandal-widens/comment-page-2/#comment-27515</link>
		<dc:creator>police parking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John the cop says that cops can&#039;t create parking wherever they want.  

Maybe not &quot;anywhere&quot; but pretty close to it. 

The angle parking in front of precincts and the parking regulations around them were created unilaterally by the NYPD and handed down as writ to the DOT and the community boards.

If you go to community board meetings enough and get to know the cops and DOT and political people they will tell you that. Some high ranking cops with big mouths have even bragged about their power at public meetings. One did so some years back at a Community board 4 (mhtn) meeting when asked about the expanded police parking at the precinct on west 30th street. The cops there have taken over about 3/4ths of the parking and created vertical stalls everywhere. Making deliveries is impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John the cop says that cops can't create parking wherever they want.  </p>
<p>Maybe not "anywhere" but pretty close to it. </p>
<p>The angle parking in front of precincts and the parking regulations around them were created unilaterally by the NYPD and handed down as writ to the DOT and the community boards.</p>
<p>If you go to community board meetings enough and get to know the cops and DOT and political people they will tell you that. Some high ranking cops with big mouths have even bragged about their power at public meetings. One did so some years back at a Community board 4 (mhtn) meeting when asked about the expanded police parking at the precinct on west 30th street. The cops there have taken over about 3/4ths of the parking and created vertical stalls everywhere. Making deliveries is impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Naparstek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Naparstek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah hah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah hah!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, check out comment #9.</description>
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		<title>By: Aaron Naparstek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Naparstek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, 

For the record, no one called anyone a &quot;Nazi Bastard&quot; in this discussion. If you search this entire web page for the word &quot;Nazi&quot; or &quot;Bastard&quot; -- it&#039;s easy to do in your web browser -- you won&#039;t find either word until you wrote them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, </p>
<p>For the record, no one called anyone a "Nazi Bastard" in this discussion. If you search this entire web page for the word "Nazi" or "Bastard" -- it's easy to do in your web browser -- you won't find either word until you wrote them.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/09/07/nypd-parking-scandal-widens/comment-page-2/#comment-27459</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks John. If you check out my posts you will see that I generally seek out direct contact with others I encounter in the street in pressing my agenda, police officers included.  However if you check out the post (at the top of this page) you will see evidence of arrest and harassment by NYPD personnel against those who complain about NYPD placard abuse.  Should that factor in to a decision to visit One Police Plaza, as you suggest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks John. If you check out my posts you will see that I generally seek out direct contact with others I encounter in the street in pressing my agenda, police officers included.  However if you check out the post (at the top of this page) you will see evidence of arrest and harassment by NYPD personnel against those who complain about NYPD placard abuse.  Should that factor in to a decision to visit One Police Plaza, as you suggest?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/09/07/nypd-parking-scandal-widens/comment-page-2/#comment-27443</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the receptiveness to my comments and I&#039;m glad that they were of some assistance to you folks. Blogger ddartley, you were correct in your presumption, the impetus behind issuance of police metrocards stemmed in great part from the assault you mentioned and some other instances where we needed access to the transit system but were unable to get it in an expedient manner. So, this is a situation which was properly addressed in order to further our primary mission to protect life. Steve, I know it was not you who used the &quot;Nazi&quot; reference and if I gave the impression that it was attributable to you, my sincere apologies. You and several others seem to have a decidedly more mature approach to what is doubtless an important issue which I am sure can be jointly addressed by the NYPD and you folks for, hopefully, mutual benefit. I am obligated to put in a disclaimer which states that I am in no way speaking on behalf of the NYPD,I am precluded from doing so by Department regulations, but I am at the same time acting within my proper scope by suggesting that, if you and your colleagues have not already done so, to contact the NYPD&#039;s Community Affairs Bureau at One Police Plaza. The people assigned there have the specific task of ensuring and encouraging proper responsiveness to the people we are sworn to serve, and I&#039;m sure this might facilitate some progress and some productive discussion for both sides. I hope this additional information is of some help, and if it&#039;s okay with you, I&#039;ll check in and read and contribute from time to time on this blog. The parking situation in general in our city can be a cause of frustration to everybody ( cops included ) and I can speak from experience that it is not a new problem, but I&#039;ve seen the community and the NYPD reach solutions in the past specific to that which you are presently addressing. Predicated on that, I would believe that with your aforementioned ( and may I say very refreshing) mature and businesslike approach, you might be able to make some inroads ( no pun intended). Good luck,gentlemen, and I look forward to reading and sometimes commenting.Thanks for including me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the receptiveness to my comments and I'm glad that they were of some assistance to you folks. Blogger ddartley, you were correct in your presumption, the impetus behind issuance of police metrocards stemmed in great part from the assault you mentioned and some other instances where we needed access to the transit system but were unable to get it in an expedient manner. So, this is a situation which was properly addressed in order to further our primary mission to protect life. Steve, I know it was not you who used the "Nazi" reference and if I gave the impression that it was attributable to you, my sincere apologies. You and several others seem to have a decidedly more mature approach to what is doubtless an important issue which I am sure can be jointly addressed by the NYPD and you folks for, hopefully, mutual benefit. I am obligated to put in a disclaimer which states that I am in no way speaking on behalf of the NYPD,I am precluded from doing so by Department regulations, but I am at the same time acting within my proper scope by suggesting that, if you and your colleagues have not already done so, to contact the NYPD's Community Affairs Bureau at One Police Plaza. The people assigned there have the specific task of ensuring and encouraging proper responsiveness to the people we are sworn to serve, and I'm sure this might facilitate some progress and some productive discussion for both sides. I hope this additional information is of some help, and if it's okay with you, I'll check in and read and contribute from time to time on this blog. The parking situation in general in our city can be a cause of frustration to everybody ( cops included ) and I can speak from experience that it is not a new problem, but I've seen the community and the NYPD reach solutions in the past specific to that which you are presently addressing. Predicated on that, I would believe that with your aforementioned ( and may I say very refreshing) mature and businesslike approach, you might be able to make some inroads ( no pun intended). Good luck,gentlemen, and I look forward to reading and sometimes commenting.Thanks for including me.</p>
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		<title>By: ddartley</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/09/07/nypd-parking-scandal-widens/comment-page-1/#comment-27424</link>
		<dc:creator>ddartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 04:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very glad that a cop has joined the discussion here and I hope John continues to contribute comments to streetsblog.

I, not Steve, was the first to cast aspersions about the likelihood that cops might sell metrocards.  I can get pretty angry about the overabundance of cars, but calling people nazis is not constructive.

I hesitated to mention my made-up idea of cops selling their metrocards, but it was part of my selling the idea of a hi-tech police sheild that can also open any turnstile or NYC transit entry point, without the need for a transit attendant.  One reason I think that would be an improvement to the current system (clarified by John, thanks) is that it would eliminate situations like the one a couple years ago, where a stabbing victim bled to death on a subway platform, and the responders could not get into the station right away because they didn&#039;t have Metrocards, and there was no attendant on duty--just those medieaval, arm-breaking vertical turnstiles!

I ask all of you to ask the City for that--a system where first responders&#039; very ID--e.g., a police or fire shield--can open any turnstile, perhaps by some wireless signal, or a swipe-able design.  Its constant presence (part of the shield) would be another small way of making it easy NOT to drive; it would probably reduce bureaucracy of administering employee Metrocards; and it would make life easier for transit-using employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very glad that a cop has joined the discussion here and I hope John continues to contribute comments to streetsblog.</p>
<p>I, not Steve, was the first to cast aspersions about the likelihood that cops might sell metrocards.  I can get pretty angry about the overabundance of cars, but calling people nazis is not constructive.</p>
<p>I hesitated to mention my made-up idea of cops selling their metrocards, but it was part of my selling the idea of a hi-tech police sheild that can also open any turnstile or NYC transit entry point, without the need for a transit attendant.  One reason I think that would be an improvement to the current system (clarified by John, thanks) is that it would eliminate situations like the one a couple years ago, where a stabbing victim bled to death on a subway platform, and the responders could not get into the station right away because they didn't have Metrocards, and there was no attendant on duty--just those medieaval, arm-breaking vertical turnstiles!</p>
<p>I ask all of you to ask the City for that--a system where first responders' very ID--e.g., a police or fire shield--can open any turnstile, perhaps by some wireless signal, or a swipe-able design.  Its constant presence (part of the shield) would be another small way of making it easy NOT to drive; it would probably reduce bureaucracy of administering employee Metrocards; and it would make life easier for transit-using employees.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, thanks for your comments.  Some responses:

-I did not pretend to have any special knowledge in my post as to whether NYPD officers get Metrocards or transitchecks.  I am aware that there of lots of people who receive transitchecks (as distinct from metrocards) and sell them to others, and I speculated as to whether NYPD members may do that as well.

-I&#039;m happy to call them NYPD.

-Likewise, I did not pretend to have special knowledge as to whether DOT authorized this lot at Columbus Circle.  My post reads, &quot;I wonder if&quot; and &quot;for all I know.&quot;  So why your reference to an &quot;obvious case of misinformation?&quot; And do you know that DOT authorized this lot?

-I do question whether the command-level officers who have reserved spaces in this lot are out on patrol or covering emergencies, and I can&#039;t really tell from your post whether you are making a general assertion about all command level officers, or you have some special knowledge about these command level officers.

-I understand that command-level officers (and other officers) may need to respond to emergencies in the transit system by car quickly. I discuss that in comment #46 above.  And to add some detail, I notice that a number of the cars parked in this lot with NYPD placards have child seats and other things suggesting they are not official vehicles. 

-I don&#039;t hate cops or think they are &quot;Nazi bastards.&quot;  For reasons already discussed in this thread, many, many NYPD placard holders feel entitled to park in ways that their placards do not entitle them to do.  Some of this illegal parking by placard holders inconveniences and endangers pedestrians, bicyclists and motorists who use this three-block stretch as well.  

In the three weeks this lot has been in place, the &quot;overflow&quot; illegal parking by placard holders has gotten steadily worse.  Here are some examples from this morning:

Parking on the sidewalk (told you it wouldn&#039;t take long for this to start!):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43954081@N00/368090278/in/photostream/

Completely blocking wheelchair ramp and crosswalk:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43954081@N00/368090280/in/photostream/

The fact is John, I&#039;m on your side, I&#039;d like to see a major overhaul of placard parking.  One of the days I was taking photos in this lot I saw a guy with press credentials parking in it, so there is abuse all around, I agree.  But when a new lot with reserved spaces springs up mushroom-like overnight, and within a few weeks other placard holders start parking in the adjacent bus stops, crosswalks, and sidewalks in a manner to endanger and inconvenience others with progressive frequency--while the reserved spaces sit empty or are used for what appears to be private autos used for commuting--I consider that a legitimate opportunity to raise awareness and focus attention on the general problem.  That&#039;s what I&#039;m trying to do.

I appreciate that you recognize that these kind of parking activities are &quot;not always right&quot; and I am interested in what ideas you may have to trying to fix it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, thanks for your comments.  Some responses:</p>
<p>-I did not pretend to have any special knowledge in my post as to whether NYPD officers get Metrocards or transitchecks.  I am aware that there of lots of people who receive transitchecks (as distinct from metrocards) and sell them to others, and I speculated as to whether NYPD members may do that as well.</p>
<p>-I'm happy to call them NYPD.</p>
<p>-Likewise, I did not pretend to have special knowledge as to whether DOT authorized this lot at Columbus Circle.  My post reads, "I wonder if" and "for all I know."  So why your reference to an "obvious case of misinformation?" And do you know that DOT authorized this lot?</p>
<p>-I do question whether the command-level officers who have reserved spaces in this lot are out on patrol or covering emergencies, and I can't really tell from your post whether you are making a general assertion about all command level officers, or you have some special knowledge about these command level officers.</p>
<p>-I understand that command-level officers (and other officers) may need to respond to emergencies in the transit system by car quickly. I discuss that in comment #46 above.  And to add some detail, I notice that a number of the cars parked in this lot with NYPD placards have child seats and other things suggesting they are not official vehicles. </p>
<p>-I don't hate cops or think they are "Nazi bastards."  For reasons already discussed in this thread, many, many NYPD placard holders feel entitled to park in ways that their placards do not entitle them to do.  Some of this illegal parking by placard holders inconveniences and endangers pedestrians, bicyclists and motorists who use this three-block stretch as well.  </p>
<p>In the three weeks this lot has been in place, the "overflow" illegal parking by placard holders has gotten steadily worse.  Here are some examples from this morning:</p>
<p>Parking on the sidewalk (told you it wouldn't take long for this to start!):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/43954081@N00/368090278/in/photostream/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/43954081@N00/368090278/in/photostream/</a></p>
<p>Completely blocking wheelchair ramp and crosswalk:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/43954081@N00/368090280/in/photostream/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/43954081@N00/368090280/in/photostream/</a></p>
<p>The fact is John, I'm on your side, I'd like to see a major overhaul of placard parking.  One of the days I was taking photos in this lot I saw a guy with press credentials parking in it, so there is abuse all around, I agree.  But when a new lot with reserved spaces springs up mushroom-like overnight, and within a few weeks other placard holders start parking in the adjacent bus stops, crosswalks, and sidewalks in a manner to endanger and inconvenience others with progressive frequency--while the reserved spaces sit empty or are used for what appears to be private autos used for commuting--I consider that a legitimate opportunity to raise awareness and focus attention on the general problem.  That's what I'm trying to do.</p>
<p>I appreciate that you recognize that these kind of parking activities are "not always right" and I am interested in what ideas you may have to trying to fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: ABG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ABG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, you provide a lot of useful clarification and make several good points.  I have comments on two issues that you&#039;ve raised.

I can see the value in having patrol cars for transit officers, especially at times when the subways aren&#039;t running frequently, but I see no reason for commuter parking at transit headquarters, or for cars for the brass.

I also disagree with you about priorities in parking.  I&#039;ve called 311 about some people (used car dealerships and parks staff) parking on the sidewalk, and I&#039;d call more often (about the fire station, for example), but I&#039;m not convinced that the police would take my concerns seriously.  I&#039;ve walked by my precinct and seen the number of cars (patrol cars, unmarked cars and commuter cars) blocking half the sidewalk.  If the cops see parking on the sidewalk as a privilege, why would I expect them to deny it to someone else?  I don&#039;t want them to feel above the law because they can park on the sidewalk while ticketing other people for doing the same thing, so I think that they should set an example on this issue.  Is that too much to ask?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, you provide a lot of useful clarification and make several good points.  I have comments on two issues that you've raised.</p>
<p>I can see the value in having patrol cars for transit officers, especially at times when the subways aren't running frequently, but I see no reason for commuter parking at transit headquarters, or for cars for the brass.</p>
<p>I also disagree with you about priorities in parking.  I've called 311 about some people (used car dealerships and parks staff) parking on the sidewalk, and I'd call more often (about the fire station, for example), but I'm not convinced that the police would take my concerns seriously.  I've walked by my precinct and seen the number of cars (patrol cars, unmarked cars and commuter cars) blocking half the sidewalk.  If the cops see parking on the sidewalk as a privilege, why would I expect them to deny it to someone else?  I don't want them to feel above the law because they can park on the sidewalk while ticketing other people for doing the same thing, so I think that they should set an example on this issue.  Is that too much to ask?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point of information in response to various comments: All NYPD officers have always been entitled to free public transportation and obtain it by displaying their shield and ID card. With the advent of the Metrocard, all NYPD officers were issued one to facilitate this. Point of fact to the misinformed Steve:all these Metrocards are serially numbered, the issuance of them is documented and monitored, and they must be safeguarded by the individual officers. If a card is lost, it is reported immediately by the officer, the card is deactivated by the TA,and the officer is disciplined in the same way as they would be for the loss of a shield, an ID card, or other certain Department-issued equipment.The same goes if someone other than the officer tries to use it(wife, husband, etc.Its use is monitored and ID is checked if there is doubt as to identity of user.)They are not randomly and unaccountably distributed and then subject to possible sale by the officer, so you obviously have some preconceived notion about us which unfortunately seems to skew your opinion. Likewise, we cannot arbitrarily post DOT signs on our own to establish our parking because we are accountable to Community Boards, etc. who (rightfully)would question us; also, the DOT would not just give us the signs simply because we&#039;re the police. Again, an obvious case of misinformation in regard to how this NYC bureaucracy functions.The command-level officers you refer to have official cars, which are probably some of the ones you see parked. And, contrary to another piece of obvious misinformation, these command-level officers are routinely out on patrol, checking on the patrol officers and other subordinates, as well as responding to major emergencies; they don&#039;t just sit at a desk. Finally, there is no such thing as a &quot;transit cop&quot;anymore. The NYC Transit Police (and the NYC Housing Police) were merged into the NYPD in 1995, so NYPD is NYPD, despite their assignment to the Transit or Housing Bureau. And, while the Transit Bureau patrols the transit system, they still have radio cars as well, assigned to them just like the precincts,which perform patrol just like the precincts(sometimes you just can&#039;t wait for the next train when responding to a robbery or assault, you see?) so, yes, they need parking spaces for those, too. I don&#039;t think any police officer ( at least not the many I have known in my 24 years on the job )comes to work every day thinking how they can screw the system or the neighborhood civilians by parking illegally or &quot;land-grabbing&quot; or selling their Metrocards ( are you for real, man?) or engaging in whatever other activities that have been commented upon here. We&#039;re not &quot;Nazi Bastards&quot;( like one of the more intellectual bloggers chose to refer to us further up the page; brilliant use of acronym, Einstein.. )or systematic abusers of the system or the citizenry. Are there bad cops? Sure there are, but those that you read about are usually(unfortunately)caught doing things a hell of alot worse than parking illegally. That doesn&#039;t make it right, it&#039;s just that it should be viewed in the broader sense, with priority and perspective applied. And if there was major overhaul in this ongoing parking issue, let&#039;s make it across the board and include, for example,others who have special parking privileges such as the press, the state judiciary,community boards etc. Bottom line:let&#039;s reach proper and equitable solutions,but without rhetoric, stereotyping,slanted press coverage, or ignorance. (For the record, I live in one of the five boroughs, don&#039;t own a car or have an official car, and use public transportation regularly.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point of information in response to various comments: All NYPD officers have always been entitled to free public transportation and obtain it by displaying their shield and ID card. With the advent of the Metrocard, all NYPD officers were issued one to facilitate this. Point of fact to the misinformed Steve:all these Metrocards are serially numbered, the issuance of them is documented and monitored, and they must be safeguarded by the individual officers. If a card is lost, it is reported immediately by the officer, the card is deactivated by the TA,and the officer is disciplined in the same way as they would be for the loss of a shield, an ID card, or other certain Department-issued equipment.The same goes if someone other than the officer tries to use it(wife, husband, etc.Its use is monitored and ID is checked if there is doubt as to identity of user.)They are not randomly and unaccountably distributed and then subject to possible sale by the officer, so you obviously have some preconceived notion about us which unfortunately seems to skew your opinion. Likewise, we cannot arbitrarily post DOT signs on our own to establish our parking because we are accountable to Community Boards, etc. who (rightfully)would question us; also, the DOT would not just give us the signs simply because we're the police. Again, an obvious case of misinformation in regard to how this NYC bureaucracy functions.The command-level officers you refer to have official cars, which are probably some of the ones you see parked. And, contrary to another piece of obvious misinformation, these command-level officers are routinely out on patrol, checking on the patrol officers and other subordinates, as well as responding to major emergencies; they don't just sit at a desk. Finally, there is no such thing as a "transit cop"anymore. The NYC Transit Police (and the NYC Housing Police) were merged into the NYPD in 1995, so NYPD is NYPD, despite their assignment to the Transit or Housing Bureau. And, while the Transit Bureau patrols the transit system, they still have radio cars as well, assigned to them just like the precincts,which perform patrol just like the precincts(sometimes you just can't wait for the next train when responding to a robbery or assault, you see?) so, yes, they need parking spaces for those, too. I don't think any police officer ( at least not the many I have known in my 24 years on the job )comes to work every day thinking how they can screw the system or the neighborhood civilians by parking illegally or "land-grabbing" or selling their Metrocards ( are you for real, man?) or engaging in whatever other activities that have been commented upon here. We're not "Nazi Bastards"( like one of the more intellectual bloggers chose to refer to us further up the page; brilliant use of acronym, Einstein.. )or systematic abusers of the system or the citizenry. Are there bad cops? Sure there are, but those that you read about are usually(unfortunately)caught doing things a hell of alot worse than parking illegally. That doesn't make it right, it's just that it should be viewed in the broader sense, with priority and perspective applied. And if there was major overhaul in this ongoing parking issue, let's make it across the board and include, for example,others who have special parking privileges such as the press, the state judiciary,community boards etc. Bottom line:let's reach proper and equitable solutions,but without rhetoric, stereotyping,slanted press coverage, or ignorance. (For the record, I live in one of the five boroughs, don't own a car or have an official car, and use public transportation regularly.)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ddartley, based on what I have seen and heard I think that any NYPD badgeholder can get on an MTA bus or subway without paying.  I agree that giving out free metrocards would just open up a new avenue for abuse.  And I would not be surprised if NYPD were already getting transitcheks and selling them.

The problem with this lot is that many of the spaces seem to be reserved for command-level employees that probably rarely leave their desks except in the case of a major emergency.  In the case of such an emergency, wouldn&#039;t those commanding officers be driven in an emergency vehicle, so they could amange the situation via radio or cell phone en route?  These reserved spaces are clearly being used to store private vehicles used for daily commuting, not for emergency vehicles that might serve an official purpose. 

I wonder whether DOT even had a hand in setting this up.  There is a sign, &quot;authorized parking only,&quot; but for all I know the NYPD just decided to install this lot here themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ddartley, based on what I have seen and heard I think that any NYPD badgeholder can get on an MTA bus or subway without paying.  I agree that giving out free metrocards would just open up a new avenue for abuse.  And I would not be surprised if NYPD were already getting transitcheks and selling them.</p>
<p>The problem with this lot is that many of the spaces seem to be reserved for command-level employees that probably rarely leave their desks except in the case of a major emergency.  In the case of such an emergency, wouldn't those commanding officers be driven in an emergency vehicle, so they could amange the situation via radio or cell phone en route?  These reserved spaces are clearly being used to store private vehicles used for daily commuting, not for emergency vehicles that might serve an official purpose. </p>
<p>I wonder whether DOT even had a hand in setting this up.  There is a sign, "authorized parking only," but for all I know the NYPD just decided to install this lot here themselves.</p>
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