Comments on: Signs of Crooked Pedestrian Priorities http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:01:47 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Nicolo Macchiavelli http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/comment-page-1/#comment-2468 Nicolo Macchiavelli Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:01:19 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/#comment-2468 Yeah, Fourth Ave. is really an exit ramp for the BQE-Belt Pkwy-Gowanus-Prospect-Expressway. The roads that attach to the exits and entrances of the limited access highways deserve special attention for traffic calming. The southern reaches of Flatbush Ave. around Kings Plaza are notoriously precarious for pedestrians and regularly score high on the killed by auto statistics. There it is the access to the Belt Parkway coupled with the giant parking lots at Kings Plaza and recently the Home Depot (Agent Orange). Lots of auto magnets plus lots of pedestrians equals lots of accidents. They recently "improved" the intersection at Ave. U and Flatbush to add another turning lane, that will really help out! Yeah, Fourth Ave. is really an exit ramp for the BQE-Belt Pkwy-Gowanus-Prospect-Expressway. The roads that attach to the exits and entrances of the limited access highways deserve special attention for traffic calming. The southern reaches of Flatbush Ave. around Kings Plaza are notoriously precarious for pedestrians and regularly score high on the killed by auto statistics. There it is the access to the Belt Parkway coupled with the giant parking lots at Kings Plaza and recently the Home Depot (Agent Orange). Lots of auto magnets plus lots of pedestrians equals lots of accidents. They recently "improved" the intersection at Ave. U and Flatbush to add another turning lane, that will really help out!

]]> By: Dab Roots http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/comment-page-1/#comment-2467 Dab Roots Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:45:06 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/#comment-2467 Yes! I know that stretch of 4th Avenue in Brooklyn and, yes, it's pretty damned bad, right up there with various intersections a bit further north, around BAM. Yes! I know that stretch of 4th Avenue in Brooklyn and, yes, it's pretty damned bad, right up there with various intersections a bit further north, around BAM.

]]> By: Glenn http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/comment-page-1/#comment-2440 Glenn Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:18:14 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/#comment-2440 link to photo: http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/gif/safety/scanning.jpg link to photo:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/gif/safety/scanning.jpg

]]> By: Glenn http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/comment-page-1/#comment-2439 Glenn Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:17:51 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/#comment-2439 Jeremy Thanks for pointing those out. Imagine ads targeting young females urging them to dress down and cover up to avoid the chance of getting raped. Look at this cartoon that the DOT has on their website done by a kid Look at the frowns on the faces of the pedestrians...it makes walking look like such a pain in the butt. Jeremy

Thanks for pointing those out. Imagine ads targeting young females urging them to dress down and cover up to avoid the chance of getting raped.

Look at this cartoon that the DOT has on their website done by a kid

Look at the frowns on the faces of the pedestrians...it makes walking look like such a pain in the butt.

]]> By: Ananda http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/comment-page-1/#comment-2436 Ananda Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:42:49 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/#comment-2436 Regarding the first three pictures: Is this what a city that loves its inhabitants looks like? No. What message do the subtle elements of our NYC street environment reinforce to us on a daily basis? "This city cares about you, values you, prioritizes your safety and quality of life"? Nope. That's pretty sad when you think about it. Regarding the first three pictures: Is this what a city that loves its inhabitants looks like? No. What message do the subtle elements of our NYC street environment reinforce to us on a daily basis? "This city cares about you, values you, prioritizes your safety and quality of life"? Nope. That's pretty sad when you think about it.

]]> By: jeremy http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/comment-page-1/#comment-2434 jeremy Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:31:50 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/#comment-2434 More blame-the-victim crap here: http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/safety/safetips.html More blame-the-victim crap here:

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/safety/safetips.html

]]> By: Glenn http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/comment-page-1/#comment-2433 Glenn Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:51:36 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/#comment-2433 Man, New Jersey is kicking our butt... Man, New Jersey is kicking our butt...

]]> By: AD http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/comment-page-1/#comment-2432 AD Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:41:23 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/30/signs-of-crooked-pedestrian-priorities/#comment-2432 Great post Ethan. Help for pedestrians is all the more important on Fourth Avenue since four subway lines run underneath it. Great post Ethan. Help for pedestrians is all the more important on Fourth Avenue since four subway lines run underneath it.

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