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	<title>Comments on: Inebriated Columnist Issues Fatwa Against Kamikaze Jerks</title>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/07/27/inebriated-columnist-vs-kamikaze-jerks/comment-page-1/#comment-883</link>
		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of dooring bicyclists, love this blog entry:
http://www.giantrobot.com/blogs/claudine/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of dooring bicyclists, love this blog entry:<br />
<a href="http://www.giantrobot.com/blogs/claudine/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.giantrobot.com/blogs/claudine/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: pensivepuppy</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/07/27/inebriated-columnist-vs-kamikaze-jerks/comment-page-1/#comment-879</link>
		<dc:creator>pensivepuppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich - I agree with you for the most part about ped behaviour - they shouldn&#039;t be out walking in the lanes where bikes are when there are decent paths available for walking.  Doing that just makes the situation worse.

I take one exception with what you wrote though: &quot;Peds who cross on a red&quot;.  If there were bike riders who stopped on a red, then it would make sense.  But if bikes don&#039;t obey the lights, what&#039;s the point in requiring peds to obey the lights?  I&#039;ve seen peds waiting for the light, but I&#039;ve *never* seen a bike waiting on a light.  In fact I&#039;ve been nearly run down in a crosswalk by bikes blowing through a red.

I have ridden in CP.  My attitude is that neither of us has a &quot;right&quot; to the road - I don&#039;t expect peds to move out of my way.  I don&#039;t stop for the lights, and don&#039;t expect peds to either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich - I agree with you for the most part about ped behaviour - they shouldn't be out walking in the lanes where bikes are when there are decent paths available for walking.  Doing that just makes the situation worse.</p>
<p>I take one exception with what you wrote though: "Peds who cross on a red".  If there were bike riders who stopped on a red, then it would make sense.  But if bikes don't obey the lights, what's the point in requiring peds to obey the lights?  I've seen peds waiting for the light, but I've *never* seen a bike waiting on a light.  In fact I've been nearly run down in a crosswalk by bikes blowing through a red.</p>
<p>I have ridden in CP.  My attitude is that neither of us has a "right" to the road - I don't expect peds to move out of my way.  I don't stop for the lights, and don't expect peds to either.</p>
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		<title>By: Richbiker</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/07/27/inebriated-columnist-vs-kamikaze-jerks/comment-page-1/#comment-847</link>
		<dc:creator>Richbiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey PensivePuppy--an alternative perspective on Central Park Bikers &amp; Peds:
Some of what you say is true about bikers in CP, but most of us don&#039;t act that way.  Have you ever ridden a bike in CP to consider the flip side of the coin?  Like:
-Peds who can&#039;t seem to swivel their heads to look for traffic, while they cross anywhere they please (not just the cross-walks).
-Peds who cross on a red.
-Peds who choose the longest diagonal route (not the shortest perpinducular route) across the CP loop, often in groups occupying all lanes (not at the x-walk) at one time.
-Runners who run against the flow of traffic in the traffic or bike lanes.  Or peds who think the traffic lane is a sidewalk.

I&#039;m a biker who has saved more peds from their own cluelessness than the number of peds injured by bikers in CP over the past 150 years.   I always wonder why cyclists should take more responsibility for ped lives than the peds themselves are willing to take for themselves.

Rich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey PensivePuppy--an alternative perspective on Central Park Bikers &amp; Peds:<br />
Some of what you say is true about bikers in CP, but most of us don't act that way.  Have you ever ridden a bike in CP to consider the flip side of the coin?  Like:<br />
-Peds who can't seem to swivel their heads to look for traffic, while they cross anywhere they please (not just the cross-walks).<br />
-Peds who cross on a red.<br />
-Peds who choose the longest diagonal route (not the shortest perpinducular route) across the CP loop, often in groups occupying all lanes (not at the x-walk) at one time.<br />
-Runners who run against the flow of traffic in the traffic or bike lanes.  Or peds who think the traffic lane is a sidewalk.</p>
<p>I'm a biker who has saved more peds from their own cluelessness than the number of peds injured by bikers in CP over the past 150 years.   I always wonder why cyclists should take more responsibility for ped lives than the peds themselves are willing to take for themselves.</p>
<p>Rich</p>
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		<title>By: poopy pants</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/07/27/inebriated-columnist-vs-kamikaze-jerks/comment-page-1/#comment-826</link>
		<dc:creator>poopy pants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeap, some bikers are assholes.

But it&#039;s the car drivers that are regularly killing everyone. If we had a decent bike-transit system, and some clear rules on bike behavior--along with reducing 75 percent of all cars--this city would be much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeap, some bikers are assholes.</p>
<p>But it's the car drivers that are regularly killing everyone. If we had a decent bike-transit system, and some clear rules on bike behavior--along with reducing 75 percent of all cars--this city would be much better.</p>
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		<title>By: pensivepuppy</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/07/27/inebriated-columnist-vs-kamikaze-jerks/comment-page-1/#comment-824</link>
		<dc:creator>pensivepuppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bicyclists behave toward pedestrians the same way they claim automobile drivers act towards them.

Try crossing any of the roads inside central park on a Saturday afternoon and see what happens - bikes refuse to stop for anyone in a crosswalk - they just yell indignantly at the peds and barely avoid hitting them.  They must feel secure in the fact that they go by so fast no one can call them on their offensive behaviour.  They&#039;re complete jerks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bicyclists behave toward pedestrians the same way they claim automobile drivers act towards them.</p>
<p>Try crossing any of the roads inside central park on a Saturday afternoon and see what happens - bikes refuse to stop for anyone in a crosswalk - they just yell indignantly at the peds and barely avoid hitting them.  They must feel secure in the fact that they go by so fast no one can call them on their offensive behaviour.  They're complete jerks.</p>
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		<title>By: anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been out at a bar mr. dunleavy frequents, and the bartenders&#039; favorite drunk story about him is that he was once having (drunken) sex with a woman on top of a snowbank in the middle of the night, was hit by a snowplow, and broke his hip. Don&#039;t know if that&#039;s true, but he&#039;s definitely an alcoholic of legendary proportions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've been out at a bar mr. dunleavy frequents, and the bartenders' favorite drunk story about him is that he was once having (drunken) sex with a woman on top of a snowbank in the middle of the night, was hit by a snowplow, and broke his hip. Don't know if that's true, but he's definitely an alcoholic of legendary proportions.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/07/27/inebriated-columnist-vs-kamikaze-jerks/comment-page-1/#comment-805</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An alternative perspective...

New York City is the only locale in the nation that can &quot;do business&quot; as fast as it can. This is because an information infrastructure (phones, internet, etc.) is complemented by a system of physical transport (messengers) that allows for miracles like getting a contract sent downtown in 30 minutes, or printing/correcting/reprinting and delivery to client in an afternoon.

There is no comparison. Fedex is overnight. A decent messenger service, less than 1 hour. Without the biker, the concentration of commerce in Manhattan would be that much less valuable because the synergy wouldn&#039;t be physically connected. You can&#039;t put a price on it. It makes New York.

Oh, Mr. Dunleavy, fyi, those &quot;kamikazes&quot; (who are trying to make a decent paycheck, not give themselves for their country) make about $400 a week and don&#039;t get health insurance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An alternative perspective...</p>
<p>New York City is the only locale in the nation that can "do business" as fast as it can. This is because an information infrastructure (phones, internet, etc.) is complemented by a system of physical transport (messengers) that allows for miracles like getting a contract sent downtown in 30 minutes, or printing/correcting/reprinting and delivery to client in an afternoon.</p>
<p>There is no comparison. Fedex is overnight. A decent messenger service, less than 1 hour. Without the biker, the concentration of commerce in Manhattan would be that much less valuable because the synergy wouldn't be physically connected. You can't put a price on it. It makes New York.</p>
<p>Oh, Mr. Dunleavy, fyi, those "kamikazes" (who are trying to make a decent paycheck, not give themselves for their country) make about $400 a week and don't get health insurance.</p>
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		<title>By: Peakguy</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/07/27/inebriated-columnist-vs-kamikaze-jerks/comment-page-1/#comment-801</link>
		<dc:creator>Peakguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, now Toby and Eric, let&#039;s not stoop to their level. That&#039;s exactly what they want. We are better than that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, now Toby and Eric, let's not stoop to their level. That's exactly what they want. We are better than that!</p>
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		<title>By: Toby</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/07/27/inebriated-columnist-vs-kamikaze-jerks/comment-page-1/#comment-782</link>
		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 04:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who bicycles in New York City, I will stop buying the New York Post. Wait, I stopped doing that years ago because it was the Republican Party&#039;s version of Pravda or was it because the Daily News had better comics? I think it was the rants by right wing nutjobs like Dunleavy.

Maybe some sort of cosmic justice from God in her infinite wisdom will prevail and he will walk into the path of an oncoming taxi (preferably an SUV for full irony) whilst in a drunken stupor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who bicycles in New York City, I will stop buying the New York Post. Wait, I stopped doing that years ago because it was the Republican Party's version of Pravda or was it because the Daily News had better comics? I think it was the rants by right wing nutjobs like Dunleavy.</p>
<p>Maybe some sort of cosmic justice from God in her infinite wisdom will prevail and he will walk into the path of an oncoming taxi (preferably an SUV for full irony) whilst in a drunken stupor.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolo Macchiavelli</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/07/27/inebriated-columnist-vs-kamikaze-jerks/comment-page-1/#comment-775</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolo Macchiavelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, you should add up the auto-centric add revenue the money-losing Post earns.  If you just count up the inches it is a huge proportion of their &quot;revenue&quot;.  Even more if you consider the auto-centric character of their Pocono &quot;real estate&quot; section.  City hating and auto loving go hand in hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, you should add up the auto-centric add revenue the money-losing Post earns.  If you just count up the inches it is a huge proportion of their "revenue".  Even more if you consider the auto-centric character of their Pocono "real estate" section.  City hating and auto loving go hand in hand.</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/07/27/inebriated-columnist-vs-kamikaze-jerks/comment-page-1/#comment-771</link>
		<dc:creator>AD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is, a single, unfortunate, decades-old crash relayed to us by hearsay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is, a single, unfortunate, decades-old crash relayed to us by hearsay.</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/07/27/inebriated-columnist-vs-kamikaze-jerks/comment-page-1/#comment-770</link>
		<dc:creator>AD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drivers have killed 4,000 pedestrians and 400 cyclists, but how many &lt;i&gt;other drivers&lt;/i&gt; have they killed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drivers have killed 4,000 pedestrians and 400 cyclists, but how many <i>other drivers</i> have they killed?</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/07/27/inebriated-columnist-vs-kamikaze-jerks/comment-page-1/#comment-769</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the sad reality is that plenty of large vehicle driving meat-heads read that paper, and this will only fuel their pre-existing hatred of the &quot;pedal punks&quot; 

i mean the editor of the paper had to agree to that column right?...evidence of the pure hatred for cyclists by some people

what gives?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the sad reality is that plenty of large vehicle driving meat-heads read that paper, and this will only fuel their pre-existing hatred of the "pedal punks" </p>
<p>i mean the editor of the paper had to agree to that column right?...evidence of the pure hatred for cyclists by some people</p>
<p>what gives?</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/07/27/inebriated-columnist-vs-kamikaze-jerks/comment-page-1/#comment-768</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does a man like that even hold a job, nevermind have a coveted opinion column in a city newspaper that wants to be taken seriously.

As for Mr. Dunleavy, I feel bad for the guy. His sociopathic rantings are really just a cry for help. But he should be getting therapy from a professional, not unleasing his rantings to an entire city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does a man like that even hold a job, nevermind have a coveted opinion column in a city newspaper that wants to be taken seriously.</p>
<p>As for Mr. Dunleavy, I feel bad for the guy. His sociopathic rantings are really just a cry for help. But he should be getting therapy from a professional, not unleasing his rantings to an entire city.</p>
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