Comments on: Parking Squat: Kind of silly and yet… http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/05/17/parking-squat-kind-of-silly-and-yet/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:07:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jesse http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/05/17/parking-squat-kind-of-silly-and-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-465 Jesse Fri, 19 May 2006 21:48:00 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/05/17/parking-squat-kind-of-silly-and-yet/#comment-465 Some costs of driving that are dramatically underpriced: Highways and expressways On-street parking Registration and license Some costs of driving that are more-or-less fairly priced: Cost of vehicle Gasoline Auto insurance It requires a significant, joint increase in more than one of these factors to produce any meaningful changes in vehicle use, and very likely those increases would have to be accompanied by decreases in the cost of alternate forms of transportation (the costs of alternate transportation are often best expressed in terms of time, convenience, or safety.) Some costs of driving that are dramatically underpriced:

Highways and expressways
On-street parking
Registration and license

Some costs of driving that are more-or-less fairly priced:

Cost of vehicle
Gasoline
Auto insurance

It requires a significant, joint increase in more than one of these factors to produce any meaningful changes in vehicle use, and very likely those increases would have to be accompanied by decreases in the cost of alternate forms of transportation (the costs of alternate transportation are often best expressed in terms of time, convenience, or safety.)

]]> By: aaron http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/05/17/parking-squat-kind-of-silly-and-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-464 aaron Thu, 18 May 2006 13:47:00 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/05/17/parking-squat-kind-of-silly-and-yet/#comment-464 John, I know that I made a special visit to Savannah because I had heard how much great parking you guys had there. And isn't that why Sherman refused to burn the city down at the end of his march across the South? He said to his troops, let us not plunder a city with such fine and copious parking. John,
I know that I made a special visit to Savannah because I had heard how much great parking you guys had there. And isn’t that why Sherman refused to burn the city down at the end of his march across the South? He said to his troops, let us not plunder a city with such fine and copious parking.

]]> By: John http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/05/17/parking-squat-kind-of-silly-and-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-463 John Thu, 18 May 2006 13:24:00 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/05/17/parking-squat-kind-of-silly-and-yet/#comment-463 While you may have received negative comments from people who seem to be in denial about the damaging effects auto-centric planning and policies have on your community and its citizens, I think you've done a true service by compelling people to ponder the situation for the first time. Keep up the good work! I know many people in my community have never even considered the true cost of automobile storage. When Gen. James Oglethorpe laid out a city on a bluff above the Savannah River in 1733, he created one of the most beautiful and walkable cities in North America. However, he somehow forgot to include storage areas for Yukon XLs and F250 Super Cabs in his plan. For most of this century folks have been attempting to correct his "mistake." Large chunks of my city's fabric have been sacrificed for surface and structured parking, but we still clamor for more. While you may have received negative comments from people who seem to be in denial about the damaging effects auto-centric planning and policies have on your community and its citizens, I think you’ve done a true service by compelling people to ponder the situation for the first time. Keep up the good work!

I know many people in my community have never even considered the true cost of automobile storage.

When Gen. James Oglethorpe laid out a city on a bluff above the Savannah River in 1733, he created one of the most beautiful and walkable cities in North America. However, he somehow forgot to include storage areas for Yukon XLs and F250 Super Cabs in his plan. For most of this century folks have been attempting to correct his “mistake.” Large chunks of my city’s fabric have been sacrificed for surface and structured parking, but we still clamor for more.

]]> By: Shin-pei http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/05/17/parking-squat-kind-of-silly-and-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-462 Shin-pei Wed, 17 May 2006 21:01:00 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/05/17/parking-squat-kind-of-silly-and-yet/#comment-462 I think "silly" and small things are sometimes the best way to make people question their everyday behavior. The Park Slope squat wasn't even that crazy - just nice neighborly activity like sitting, chatting and enjoying the street. Check out how silly can be taken up a notch with David Engwicht's tactics. http://www.mentalspeedbumps.com/ I think “silly” and small things are sometimes the best way to make people question their everyday behavior. The Park Slope squat wasn’t even that crazy – just nice neighborly activity like sitting, chatting and enjoying the street. Check out how silly can be taken up a notch with David Engwicht’s tactics. http://www.mentalspeedbumps.com/

]]> By: Ianqui http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/05/17/parking-squat-kind-of-silly-and-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-461 Ianqui Wed, 17 May 2006 18:48:00 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/05/17/parking-squat-kind-of-silly-and-yet/#comment-461 <I>No one wants to be reminded that they are, in a small but significant way contributing to global climate change</I> On the other hand, the fact that the contribution appears to be small seems to be in large part responsible for people deciding that following a more environmentally-conscious lifestyle is too hard and too inconsequential. (And, this feeling was recently summed up in <a HREF="http://www.theonion.com/content/node/48223" rel="nofollow">an Onion article</A>, of course.) No one wants to be reminded that they are, in a small but significant way contributing to global climate change

On the other hand, the fact that the contribution appears to be small seems to be in large part responsible for people deciding that following a more environmentally-conscious lifestyle is too hard and too inconsequential. (And, this feeling was recently summed up in an Onion article, of course.)

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